Breaking Dawn Spoilers Thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Desnik]

moppety, I totally get why she did it, Shoot, I was never a steak eater, but now that I'm pregnant, all I want is steak. I guess, I was just waiting for her to have a similar reaction (light headed, nausea) as she did in Twilight.

I was waiting for that too! I thought for sure she wouldn't be able to drink that blood. Pregnancy does that to you though! When I was pregnant with DD all I wanted to eat were tacos and I had never had a taco in my life before being pregnant with her!LOL

Hey, OP you are being quoted over on twilightmoms BD thread. Everyone loves they way you described what each book represents.

 

[KatGarcia]

I posted this on a different thread but thought you all might wanna see how it went.... here's my mini TR fo the day I went to The Breaking Dawn Concert Series....

So we left the house in the early afternoon to have some early dinner before the show. We also decided to phone ahead a Borders store near Penn Station (a 15 min walk from the concert) and they let us pre-order the book! SO we made that our first stop, so we could get a wristband to be on the line at midnight for the book.

Then we walked up to our early dinner destination- Red Lobster! On the way there (the block before Red Lobster) we saw this:

It closes soon, we are planning on trying their $20 raffle this week to see it one more time (I have seen it 4 times before).

On to dinner!
I love me some seafood. We each had different combo platters and they were yummy! For some unknown reason KC didn't finish his so we took it with us, hoping he could carry it into the concert.

I saw this in Times Square:

We had about an hour to kill until the doors were opening to the theater so we went to Toys'r'Us Times Square to play for a while....

There is a giant ferris wheel in the store and they have a Toy Story car- I got the best pic I could of it.

Usually if we ride it we end up in the darn ET car, and I am scared of ET since I was a kid! We spent about 1/2 hour wandering around...

This dinosaur moves and makes noises at you, very creepy.

Once we decided to go and get on line we realized the line wrapped around 2 blocks! We somehow found the end and got on it, and then there was still a loooooooong line behind us spanning another block at least.

Some of the line:

KC was not too thrilled to go already and being on a line with that many young girls he was getting cranky. He kept saying he felt like he was at an NSYNC concert. I was slightly annoyed but too excited to care.

We got in fairly quickly, about 45 min to load everyone in. We had general admission seats so we stood the whole time, which was murder on my back. BUT we were right under a screen that showed the whole thing so I could see.

Me & KC.

First the chick from ANTM & MTV, KIM, came out. She introduced Justin Furstenfeld of Blue October.

HE did i think 3 songs (I only know a little bit of their stuff). He was good but there was a lot of revurb on the mic (on purpose) that was kind of annoying.

Then they brought Stephenie Meyer out and asked her some already chosen questions. Nothing too earth shattering. She didn't give anything away. It was really interesting tho. She sat in on Justin doing some more songs and them talking together too. The whole thing was about an hour and a half.

KC had a girl of maybe 13 screaming in his ear the whole time so his lovely mood grew lovelier and I was trying hard to ignore it. Finally we were on our way to the signing.... and they decided to shove 2500 people through 3 small doors just to get on another line to wait. It was chaos and unorganized. We got squished and mauled the whole way but finally we got up to SM! We weren't allowed to take pics and when we got the "book plate" it was a disappointing thing.

It was a piece of paper, a sticker actually, that had an open space for her to sign. No personalizations, nothing more than a sticker! I was glad to meet her, she was lovely and sweet but the appeal of the "book plate" was a sad disappointment when we got there. I'm glad for the autograph but I thought it would be something more substantial.

The plus of the theater was that they had this for us:

We got another wristband for getting on the bus, and a button. The wristband was a better line than the one we got in the morning, so we were happy! We got to watch a twilight trailer on the bus. We got some drinks from their cafe and then found the start of the wristband line and stayed there. At this point KC was in full on not happy mode and just shut down on me., I read some of Tori Spellings book and waited for midnight to come.

Here's the autograph, ticket, wristband and button:

To border's credit we were out the door in 15 minutes with the book and on our way home.

All in all I need some friends nearby to go to these types of things with, thats what I learned!

 

[jamimb]

I just realized what bothers me about the whole pregnancy/baby. SM said she wrote this book for herself. I get that, but she didn't stay true to her characters. Bella never wanted a baby, heck, she never even wanted to be married. She just wanted to be a vampire so she could be with Edward forever. I think SM projected too much of herself, or what she wanted not Bella. KWIM?

I don't think this is necessarily true. Alot of us (me included) can probably say that we know or have known people who did not want children or were not real keen on it but once it actually happened they were thrilled and did not react like they thought. She loved Edward and she thought she had to give up ever getting to look into the eyes of a child that had his face. I can see how she would be thrilled like "wait maybe I can have my cake and eat it too"

 

[jamimb]

I felt gypped that her becoming a vampire became a "necessity". SM wimped out on having Edward's love for her make her a vampire.



this was NOT a surprise to me at all! I knew after reading Twilight that that is how it would probably go down. I personally loved that part!

 

[Brier Rose]

I don't think it's fair to say Bella never wanted a baby..she just didn't want one so young..right from the start.

We all know..life has a way of throwing what you thought you DID NOT want right into your lap. Given her all consuming love for Edward was there really ever any possible way that she could not love his baby?

Even if it wasn't the timing she would have preferred, this baby was still a part of Edward..something she never even thought possible. I can see why she would have accepted it and fallen in love with it straight away.

I just wish everybody would pick a stance and stick with it! Not meant toward anyone here!

People keep saying stuff like..the characters are not the same..they changed too much. And then the same people say things like they would have loved to see Rose and Bella bond..that they hated the way she was ONLY about the baby.

Is that not Rose being EXACTLY who she's been throughout all the books?

IMO..Rose doesn't HATE Bella..she just has no use for her. If it had been any other way it wouldn't have worked. I think Stephenie was brilliant in that respect!
She has set the whole thing up from the beginning!

If Rosalie cared anything for Bella at all, Bella would never have been able to trust that she wouldn't be persuaded by Edward to let them take the baby to save her. Bella needed Rose to care ONLY for the baby.

I think because of the whole process Rosalie has grown to respect Bella, but I don't think she'll ever love her..I can live with that.

At first I felt kind of disappointed with the circumstances around Bella's turning also. I guess I had something more romantic in mind??

Thinking about it though, I really do think this was the best way.

Bella was insistent on wanting Edward's venom to change her. He on the other hand...never wanted her to be changed at all.

I think this gave Bella a way of getting what she wanted while giving Edward a way not to feel guilty about it.

Even though he had agreed to change her, I just can't see how he ever would have truly forgiven himself for "taking her life away and condemning her soul", after he felt so strongly about it.

This also made Bella the same as the rest of the Cullens. They were all turned at deaths door, so doing it this way let them stick to their "moral code" so to speak.

 

[Brier Rose]

Oh..and just a funny/disturbing note on the sex issue.

When DD and I were in line at B&N for the release there was a group of..oh I'd say 13-14 year old girls behind us..and ALL they kept saying was..There BETTER be a sex scene in this one!!

 

[Desnik]

I don't think this is necessarily true. Alot of us (me included) can probably say that we know or have known people who did not want children or were not real keen on it but once it actually happened they were thrilled and did not react like they thought. She loved Edward and she thought she had to give up ever getting to look into the eyes of a child that had his face. I can see how she would be thrilled like "wait maybe I can have my cake and eat it too"

I agree with what you are saying. I guess I mean that introducing the baby in general in the story is what bothered me. Like Bella never wanted that, so why did there have to be a baby. Why take this series in that direction? KWIM?


KatGarcia
Thanks for the report. I was really curious to see how it was.

 

[Desnik]

I just wish everybody would pick a stance and stick with it! Not meant toward anyone here!

I can't! This book really has me all over the place. I love parts, hate parts, I can see where some things were necessary, but think some things were crazy. I guess I am a flip flopper!

 

[Caribbeanprincess]

I was a 19 year old saying: There better be sex in this one! XD

Anyway, about the birth thing. I did really gross me out. It was creepy and very dark, the most violent thing that has happened in all the book...

 

[Caribbeanprincess]

I just realized what bothers me about the whole pregnancy/baby. SM said she wrote this book for herself. I get that, but she didn't stay true to her characters. Bella never wanted a baby, heck, she never even wanted to be married. She just wanted to be a vampire so she could be with Edward forever. I think SM projected too much of herself, or what she wanted not Bella. KWIM?

I think the pregnancy was what Bella needed to be ready for the transformation. I don't care what she says, she wasn't ready for it before. I was all for Bella being turned, but I knew there had to be something for her to really be sure about her desicion and that was the pregnancy. It was the human experience she needed to have before the transformation. Maybe she never thought about it before, she gave away her choice to have children when she chose Edward, but she never expected this. If she ever wanted children she didn't want them with Jacob, she wanted them with Edward and when she understood what could come out of pure love she went for it.

 

[Mischief_Managed]

Hi All! I just finished the book a few minutes ago (tried my best to drag the reading out as long as I could). I haven't looked through this thread yet, but wanted to post on it (to make it easier to find later). I have to cook dinner - an actual cooked meal (!) which hasn't happened since Friday night!!! Will be reading/posting later!

 

[sunnyday123]

Whew!! Just finished the book! I liked it, although I get what everyone is saying about how it had a different feel to it. I truly thought they would all end up as um, what they didn't end up as.....

I'm off to shovel out my house...haven't done anything but read for like the past 2 weeks? My dog and cats seem a little thinner.....

oh wait!! just thought of something, and haven't read this whole thread so sorry if it's been asked/answered....are they making all the books into movies?? that would so rock.

 

[Desnik]

I believe all the actors signed on to a 3 movie deal. It has been said that the other 2 books will be done but not sure about BD. I don't know how they can make the 3 without BD. I guess that depends on how the movies do. I really hope to see them all be movies. SM has said when writing them she did think about them being movies. She even said BD would have to be 2 movies like they are doing with the last HP movie.

 

[beckanoah]

Using my 1000th post to say...

I did like several elements of the book.

The Wedding
The Pregnancy
The fact that Bella did change (it should have been a more romantic change though)
The fact that Bella proved to be strong and able to protect herself and everyone on her side.
The fact Edward could finally read her mind.

I did NOT like
Renesmee's name (or nickname)... oy
Jacob inprinting on the baby
The fact that there was NOT an epic fight with the Volturi. THe cullens should have become the new head Vampires and shown that you don't have to kill humans to be immortal.

I could go on, but I'm tired!

 

[VirtuallyMe]

I finished reading earlier today- got the book Saturday night- had to go to work at 5:30 am on Sunday but then was able to leave- and read most of the travel time back and forth to New Orleans yesterday- flat out started to fall asleep during the scene when the volturi show up lol

I have to say- I actually sort of predicted some of what happened- before reading- but I figured there was no way she'd go that way- lol

So I wasn't surprised by the pregnancy, Jacob imprinting- (Quil and Claire- set up that one), Renesme being a half-pire, even other vampires coming to visit- including other half-pires at the end-

The book definitely reads differently then the others in the serries- not really bad but different. I would have preferred a little more time for her transformation and all- and Bella and Edward to enjoy some more romance like in the other books- There were things that seemed to just get started and then drop that line and go to something else- So I'd be interested to see some of the outtakes that got cut from the book- it was a long book and I got the feeling the editors over editted some parts- but left too much of others.

I did not like Renesme's name- there is one for the weird name thread- and just goes to show you that you shouldn't pick names while drinking blood during your pregnancy... I thought Nessie was cute though and was glad to see that Bella finally accepted it at the end

I enjoyed the portion from Jacob's point of view- because frankly it would have been boring to have that part from Bella's- and it opened the possibility for future books from his point of view. There was talk of SM doing 2 more books in the twilight world- that would be nice to get the rest of the story.

I did want more of a battle- but didn't want one either- I felt it was lacking in a way because of no battle- no loss- but then we get to keep the main characters and the new friends too = but I guess I wanted to see a little more action and people saving the day.

I loved Alice- coming in to save the day- and was glad she was able to come back and redeem herself- for running off- that it was all part of her plan. I also liked Jasper's knickname of Jazz- but wondered where it came from- it was never mentioned in previous books- but suddenly he has a cute knickname lol

I do feel I need to re-read the book- and I'm considering doing a marathon- of all four all in a row- for my next read of BD- I do think I need a day or so before opening it up again...

Sad it is over- but I'm looking forward to the movies...

 

[LouDisney]

I have not posted in awhile, summer, vacations, etc...
I got my book at midnight Friday night and started reading as soon as I got home. I am finished of course. To each their own, but I am shocked to see so many negative comments about the book. Oh well, everyone has the right to love or hate it.

I personally loved it. I was not shocked at the pregnancy, but I really never imagined her going there. I loved everything about the book. I thought it covered so many different kind of loves, and relationships.

I felt Edward and Bella's relationship continued to grow and just got stronger and stronger. I loved how all the other characters relationships developed and grew stronger. Some of them, I never thought would be friends or be close, did become close/friends and some at least became tolerant of each and understood each other. Once again, they all banned together, to save this child, to save their family and help their friends.

I loved how she told some of the story from Jacob's POV. I was not sure how I was going to feel about that, but it was honestly one of the fav. parts.
I am team Edward all the way. I have NEVER hated Jacob. He got on my nerves a little in Eclipse, but I know why he acted that way, he was desperate and he loved Bella. This book made me really like Jacob, even more (still team Edward ) and I am glad Jacob will get his happen ending.

My heart swelled ten times when Bella let down her shield and Edward finally saw into her mind. I loved all the things Bella showed him.

I could go on and on and tell my favorite parts, moments, etc...but I will say I thought it was awesome. I laughed, I cried, I got nervous, and all of the above. It all worked out and all the pieces fell into there places...for me anyway. I thought it ended perfectly.

 

[Jennasis]

One other complaint I had was the fact that the werewolves aren't really werewolves?!?!?

The Volturi had a serious issue with the "Children of the moon"...but apparently that's NOT what Jacob et al are??? What the freaking heck?? So Meyers creates vampires that can impregnate humans, that have no fangs, can walk about in daylight without going *poof*, no problem with garlic or crosses...

Frankly her vampires aren't actually vampires at all.

And now her "werewolves" aren't REAL werewolves???

Ugh...the series is seriously flawed. So why was it still so compelling. Dangit!@

 

[VirtuallyMe]

One other complaint I had was the fact that the werewolves aren't really werewolves?!?!?

<SNIP>
And now her "werewolves" aren't REAL werewolves???

Ugh...the series is seriously flawed. So why was it still so compelling. Dangit!@

LOL- I think she shocked Jacob and friends with that one too... But I think they wanted to point out that there were the "traditional" werewolves out there- and what the Quileutes (spelling?) are- is something different- and that was basically said in the story- afterall- if they were "werewolves" they'd be like SM's vampires that don't follow the traditional rules- because aren't you supposed to be bit by one to become one?

I thought it was a good explanation for the differences.

I don't think Jacob and his friends would like "real" werewolves any more than they like the vampires that dine on humans- since they are protectors of humans...

 

[Jennasis]

LOL- I think she shocked Jacob and friends with that one too... But I think they wanted to point out that there were the "traditional" werewolves out there- and what the Quileutes (spelling?) are- is something different- and that was basically said in the story- afterall- if they were "werewolves" they'd be like SM's vampires that don't follow the traditional rules- because aren't you supposed to be bit by one to become one?

I thought it was a good explanation for the differences.

I don't think Jacob and his friends would like "real" werewolves any more than they like the vampires that dine on humans- since they are protectors of humans...

That's fine...but then they should've turned into something OTHER than wolves. A bear, and eagle, a giant bunny. Anything but a wolf.

 

[froggygrrrl]

One other complaint I had was the fact that the werewolves aren't really werewolves?!?!?

The Volturi had a serious issue with the "Children of the moon"...but apparently that's NOT what Jacob et al are??? What the freaking heck?? So Meyers creates vampires that can impregnate humans, that have no fangs, can walk about in daylight without going *poof*, no problem with garlic or crosses...

Frankly her vampires aren't actually vampires at all.

And now her "werewolves" aren't REAL werewolves???

Ugh...the series is seriously flawed. So why was it still so compelling. Dangit!@

I think that is my biggest issue with this book (with PLENTY of other issues to go along with it). Other than the drinking blood factor, there is nothing vampy about the vampires. To me, they were just superheroes with a penchant for blood. I thought it went a little overboard with all the different supernatural powers. I felt like Twilight was turning into X-Men! I mean, really, a vampire that can control weather? I really think that's stretching it.