boys in toilets

Wow Talking hands, insulin dependant here for 38 years. also have a twin with it as well. Never ever heard of taking insulin through clothing.............. you are so special! Sorry your HMO will not approve you for a pump, you must have great control. If you would like make another reply you may do it privately as I enjoy these boards. I am not here to argue with someone over where they go to the bathroom......
 
I don't have to do this often, but....
here is the standard "play nice reminder." It's OK to disagree, but it's not OK to use sarcasm, call names, etc, etc.

In my years as a nurse, I have talked with diabetics who injected thru clothing, some who never heard of it, some who would never do it and the same for doing blood testing and injections in the bathroom. And most of the people who did one thing would not be able to convince those who did the opposite to change. Whatever works.

I'm one of those (evil?) moms who sometimes uses a handicapped stall with two kids. I'm sure I take longer than a single user would take too. But maybe there is more to this than meets the eye....
I think most people would agree with you that not all disabilities are visible and all are important. My own FIL should use a handicapped stall because of his very bad knees and hips, but he won't because he doesn't feel he is "disabled enough". No one (except the person in the stall) knows whether or not they need the "features" of the handicapped accessible stall (whatever "features" are important to that person, whether it is grab bars, extra room, etc). I hope we haven't given the impression that any mom with 2 kids who uses the handicapped stall is "evil". I personally don't care who uses the stall, just that they are considerate of others who might need it. There are some people who take longer than a single user would take - my DD takes more time than a single person would normally take. All I ask is that people try not to take more time than they need to take. I have, unfortunately waited for people who were using one of those handicapped stalls with a sink to all comb their hair, the mom to refresh her makeup and the kids to wash suntan lotion off their arms and faces so they could apply more. That is inconsiderate use since those things could be done outside of the stall. A mother trying to help her autistic son is not inconsiderate, just doing what she needs to do.

And who would "police" these stalls, and determine whose needs are legitimate and whose aren't? Would that mean that because my son's disability is not visible we would have to keep going to the back of the line any time someone in a WC comes in behind us? Or as suggested elsewhere, shoud I put a sticker on my DS so everyone can "see" that he too has a disability??
I hope I didn't give the impression that I meant the stalls should be policed or marked in any way to allow only people with "legitimate needs" to use them. I meant to have the stalls marked to indentify the stalls so people would know what they are. Some people are clueless or don't care and would use them anyway, but my DD and I have seen people who had not realized until they got in that the stall was an accessible stall. They were embarrased and apologetic because we were waiting to use the stall when they got out. I have also directed some people to the handicapped stall because they were not used to traveling with a person with a disability. In one case (when I was traveling without my DD), an older woman was trying to help her mom (in a wheelchair and barely able to stand) to use a regular stall. They didn't know that handicapped stalls existed and were very happy for the help. I helped her transfer and then gave them "toilets 101" to help identify the handicapped stall. I've even used a stall with grab bars without knowing that's what it was because it was not bigger than a regular stall and for some reason all the stalls in that bathroom opened out (boy, did I finish and get out of there quick).
In the end, I think we all have to remember to do our best to try to be considerate of everyone around us, regardless of apparent abilities or disabilities.
I agree completely. Well said.
 
We just returned from Disney, and thanks to all the wonderful information this great board provides, we had a terrific time!!

I am also happy to report that Disney's regular stalls are a lot bigger than most!! And they are very clean considering how many people use them.

I am not naming names, but one of the states north of Florida, not saying how far north, that we traveled through on our way to Disney, had the most disgusting public restrooms I have ever been in. Maybe it would be a good idea for Governor Barnes to take a day just to tour women's restrooms in his fine state.

Thanks to all the wonderful people who belong to this board who provide wonderful information and tips, we had a great time at Disney!!
 
Glad to hear you had a good time (sort of strange to be saying this in a thread about rest rooms!)
 

It is amazing how this topic gets everybody stressed out. I know for a fact, that this is the most challenging aspect of taking my mother anywhere. It was a near disaster at Disney World when I took her in May.

My mom is a stroke patient. She's wheelchair bound and has severe spasticity problems. She is also 5 feet tall even. All of the handicapped stalls at Disney World (that we saw) had the lift seats. Thus, my mom couldn't sit on them because it was too tall. She would spasm when her feet got off the ground. We tried the regular stalls (with my aunt guarding because the door couldn't be closed and with my jumping over the chair to help her). It was HORRIBLE. The companion restrooms were the only help. They had the lifted seat as well, though, which was a huge problem.

I saw lots of people dilly dallying over the sink in the handicapped stall. That was the thing that really annoyed me.

We'll be doing the cruise this year. In large part, we are doing that because we can always get her down to her room to go to the bathroom. I'm hoping it makes life easier. . .
 
I know exactly what you mean about those high toilets. My DD is just over 5 feet tall, has spasticity in her legs and arms and doesn't have very good sitting balance if her feet don't touch the ground. We sometimes are able to put her wheelchair into position so that she can rest her feet on the wheelchair footrests (a little high for the feet, but better than not touching the ground). I've also stood in front of her so that her feet were on top of mine (not the best either, but again, better than no floor contact). I know that for some people, the raised toilet seats are a big help, but my "dream toilet" would be height adjustable since the high one is not right for everyone.
 
I know our inconvenience is more trivial, but with children it sure would be nice if some of the companion stalls had even regular size seats, because it can be a challenge to help balance a teeny weeny little bottom on any seat, but it can be particularly difficult when they are so high up! :rolleyes:
 
Can we get back to the issue?
I go down to Disney with my son who has autism. We DO go to the ladies room together. We DO NOT go to the handicapped stalls. He is potty-trained enough that he can urinate, pee-pee,void,make water (pick the one that does not embarrass you, ignore the others)on his own and needs prompting on washing his hands. We go alone to DisneyWorld, except one time. Some one at work went down at the same time-but her party was all females. If I did go down there with a male that I trusted, my son would go to the mens room. Seeing that it is just me and him, and I have to do my business too, we go into the ladies room, find two stalls next to each other and get the job done. I do talk at his level to him, using "potty", etc. I definitely could see using the handicapped space if I needed to change a diaper on him-he is 11. I felt bad the first time going there and asked everyone at work about DisneyWorld EVERY possible question. Another nurse said she would never think about sending her two "normal" boys into themens room by themselves.BTW, I asked about food, rides, buses, etc. There are only one or two companion restrooms in each park. Think about it.Your child is telling you they have to relief themselves-the companion BRs are a good 10 minutes away, barring you don't run into a crowd leaving a ride. There is regular restroom within walking distance. If you wait to go the companion BR, your child could soil themselves. I personally don't like to have my son watch me use the commode-which he would do in the companion BR, because like I said I need to use the facilities at some point during the day.
The handicapped facilities in the bathroom should remain for the handicapped- and there is a great range of handicaps, aren't there?
 
IMHO, you have a good reason for bringing your son into the ladies room, connie254. In your situation, I would do the same thing.
 
Just curious ... Does Disney have a list/map of companion bathrooms at each park & resort? On our last trip earlier this month, I seemed to "run" across companion rest rooms several times. Maybe I noticed them more because of threads like this one.
 
Does Disney have a list/map of companion bathrooms at each park & resort?
They are not on the maps that we got in March. I know they are listed in the Guidebooks for Guests with Disabilities. I have a feeling that they purposely list them only there because they are meant as Companion restrooms, not general family restrooms. Since the handicapped stalls in many bathrooms are not wheelchair accessible and there are some people who need a companion in the restroom with them (but may not want to use the regular handicapped stalls) , they need these restrooms to be available to people with disabilities (visible or invisible).
 
If you can't find them, there is a link to download the guides from the official Disney site (but I don't have the link on this computer).
 












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