Bombshell Obama Pastor Video

[CowboyCO]

Cowboy, I have to give you credit for continuing. Once I see someone is a believer in the conspiracy of the gov't to commit 9/11, I'm out. It makes my head want to explode.

I don't know if any credit is due. I just go insane when I run into 9/11 conspiracy theorists. Who was it that said, "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing."?

I have a lot a background in engineering and I guess this is proof that the dealth penalty is actuality a deterrent. Otherwise, why are so many 9/11 consipiricists still alive, and why am not in jail?

 

[agentpleakley]

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One of his advisor's made this statement you are thinking of, and he has refuted it, and the advisor is no longer an advisor. He wanted no part of this war, but he wants out as safely as possible.

As for his boarding schools, he got scholarships, or does that not count? He .

While at Harvard and traveling back to Chicago to help where he could, he drove a beat up car, and had nothing but old shoes that had holes. He got scholarships and thousands and thousands in loans....

Do not equate what he has done with someone that has been priviledged. My kids travel Internationally, they are not priviledged

Afterall, McCain is the 8th richest Senator, Clinton is the 9th richest Senator, she making 10.6 million dollars in '06, McCain less but with enormous holdings. Meanwhile Obama had an income of 500K, about 10 million short of Clinton.

Well, I may have had more respect then for him if he had said his foreign policy on Iraq would change once he got in and viewed the situation at that time. Sorry, I thought I had heard this as recently as this weekend. That said, his foreign policy of diplomatic discussion is naive. Moreover, I'm tired of him getting applauds for saying "I opposed the Iraq war from the start" -- dude, you didn't even have a vote -- he wasn't even a US Senator at the time -- or does that not matter.

I never said he was privileged -- I am saying that his life is vastly different from the majority of Americans

 

[lilyv]

I never said he was privileged -- I am saying that his life is vastly different from the majority of Americans

All candidates for president have a life vastly different than the majority of Americans. Most of us have to have a regular job to pay the bills, health ins. etc. Senators can just sort of take a leave of absence. Good for them...but most working adults don't have the option of coming in or not, but still picking up a paycheck. I don't think being well educated, and well traveled is a negative.

 

[chris1gill]

Well, I may have had more respect then for him if he had said his foreign policy on Iraq would change once he got in and viewed the situation at that time. Sorry, I thought I had heard this as recently as this weekend. That said, his foreign policy of diplomatic discussion is naive. Moreover, I'm tired of him getting applauds for saying "I opposed the Iraq war from the start" -- dude, you didn't even have a vote -- he wasn't even a US Senator at the time -- or does that not matter.

I never said he was privileged -- I am saying that his life is vastly different from the majority of Americans

He has always had this stance. He would start drawing down immediately, but he would work with the military on the ground in regards to withdrawal of all troops. He has always said this....

If his foreign policy of diplomatic discussions is naive, so was JFK's, that would also mean so was Ronald Reagan's, since it was through diplomacy that the iron wall fell....

As for his not having a vote, this is true, but he read the briefing, something neither Clinton or McCain did, they have both said they did not read it, although Clinton said she briefly went through parts of it.... yet you let the President go to WAR... did they not think it was an important document to read??

 

[chris1gill]

All candidates for president have a life vastly different than the majority of Americans. Most of us have to have a regular job to pay the bills, health ins. etc. Senators can just sort of take a leave of absence. Good for them...but most working adults don't have the option of coming in or not, but still picking up a paycheck. I don't think being well educated, and well traveled is a negative.

To this end, my friend's daughter just got accepted to both Middlesex Academy and Concord Academy in Concord, MA.... she got in because she is so bright and so motivated, they could see it and she was one of the 6% accepted. Now my friend is taking loans out to make up the difference between what the school gave them (Middlesex) and what they need. I have NO QUESTION IN MY MIND that if this girl wanted to go to Harvard, she could... she doesn't come from wealth AT ALL, she's not priviledged, she's not traveled at all.... yet to assume that because a kid gets to go to a boarding school and to an Ivy league means they are priviledged, it is not true.... this girl is smart as a tack and motivated... that is why she was accepted where she was, and I have no doubt she will get into any college she desires at the end of her high school years.

 

[agentpleakley]

All candidates for president have a life vastly different than the majority of Americans. Most of us have to have a regular job to pay the bills, health ins. etc. Senators can just sort of take a leave of absence. Good for them...but most working adults don't have the option of coming in or not, but still picking up a paycheck. I don't think being well educated, and well traveled is a negative.

Well, Duh. He stated that he was little pieces of America -- I tend to disagree with this statement he made -- this has nothing to do with the other candidates.

He has always had this stance. He would start drawing down immediately, but he would work with the military on the ground in regards to withdrawal of all troops. He has always said this....

If his foreign policy of diplomatic discussions is naive, so was JFK's, that would also mean so was Ronald Reagan's, since it was through diplomacy that the iron wall fell....

As for his not having a vote, this is true, but he read the briefing, something neither Clinton or McCain did, they have both said they did not read it, although Clinton said she briefly went through parts of it.... yet you let the President go to WAR... did they not think it was an important document to read??

And JFKs foreign policy worked so well. And Reagan's did -- but he also had a mighty military to back him up. The USSR and independent Jihadists terrorists are vastly different -- I'm just saying I don't think you can go in with a milk and cookie approach to foreign policy in this day and age. I really think most of our enemies do not want to talk with us because they abhor our American style of life. And, having a b.s. in foreign policy does not make one an expert.

Monday morning quarterbacking doesn't give him a leg up at this point, in my opinion. It would hold more weight if he actually voted against the war. He is riding the popular anti-war/anti-Bush sentiment of the country.

 

[chris1gill]

For the love of all that is holy.... I know there was a Newsmax article posted here that indicated Obama was present and nodding during a sermon July 22nd 2007... Turns out he was 1500 MILES AWAY....

http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/NYTimes_once_again_fails_to_check_facts_Lies_about_Obama/who

Fact checks anyone?

 

[agentpleakley]

For the love of all that is holy.... I know there was a Newsmax article posted here that indicated Obama was present and nodding during a sermon July 22nd 2007... Turns out he was 1500 MILES AWAY....

http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/NYTimes_once_again_fails_to_check_facts_Lies_about_Obama/who

Fact checks anyone?

Fox reported this this morning that Obama was on his way to Florida at the time of this particular sermon -- Fair and Balanced

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/0...sermon-official-schedule-places-him-in-miami/

 

[chris1gill]

Well, Duh. He stated that he was little pieces of America -- I tend to disagree with this statement he made -- this has nothing to do with the other candidates.




And JFKs foreign policy worked so well. And Reagan's did -- but he also had a mighty military to back him up. The USSR and independent Jihadists terrorists are vastly different -- I'm just saying I don't think you can go in with a milk and cookie approach to foreign policy in this day and age. I really think most of our enemies do not want to talk with us because they abhor our American style of life. And, having a b.s. in foreign policy does not make one an expert.

Monday morning quarterbacking doesn't give him a leg up at this point, in my opinion. It would hold more weight if he actually voted against the war. He is riding the popular anti-war/anti-Bush sentiment of the country.

And teaching constitutional law as a Professor doesn't count either. The day of the vote he was out there decrying the vote.... This is not Monday morning quarterbacking at all, they are the facts.

A President Obama knows the constitution, something our current President seems to not regard highly, because he has trounced all over it....

And, he IS small pieces of America all rolled into one. Born and initially schooled in Hawaii (they are still part of America), he spent 2 years in Indonesia, then came back to Kansas (still America), to a white family that was not rich, then to a predominantly white college, to a NYC job he left to then work on the South Side of Chicago taking a salary of 10 grand a year to do what he wanted to do, help the poor...He decided to go to Law school in order to effect more change for the people he was trying to help, even while at Harvard he still went back to Chicago often to help where he could. He is parts of America, lots of parts of America. If people cannot see that, then we really do not know what America is all about.

 

[agentpleakley]

A President Obama knows the constitution, something our current President seems to not regard highly, because he has trounced all over it....

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Hmm -- I didn't now President Bush was running again.

 

[chris1gill]

Fox reported this this morning that Obama was on his way to Florida at the time of this particular sermon -- Fair and Balanced

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/0...sermon-official-schedule-places-him-in-miami/

Yes, after they claimed all weekend he was in attendance, as did all the major news channels.... All so ready to believe he is lying....

Why don't we go look at this man's voting record and see where he really stands, because it's his voting that he should be judged by...

Here's more information from the link above, if you go to the link http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/03/kristol_bungles_key_fact_in_an.php
Here is the video footage:
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/barack-obama-at-la-raza-convention-in-miami-fl-07-22-07/737349854


Kristol Fails To Check His Sources, And So Bungles Key Fact In Anti-Obama Column
17 Mar 2008 07:11 am

Bill Kristol's New York Times column about Barack Obama this morning contains a major, prejudicial error.

Paragraph five:



But Ronald Kessler, a journalist who has written about Wright’s ministry, claims that Obama was in fact in the pews at Trinity last July 22. That’s when Wright blamed the “arrogance” of the “United States of White America” for much of the world’s suffering, especially the oppression of blacks. In any case, given the apparent frequency of such statements in Wright’s preaching and their centrality to his worldview, the pretense that over all these years Obama had no idea that Wright was saying such things is hard to sustain.
The error is in trusting the source without checking.

The truth is that Obama did not attend church on July 22.

He was on his way to campaign in Miami.

(Here is some video evidence.) This was before he signed an agreement forbidding himself from campaigning in Florida.

Here is the original, false, Newsmax story:
Obama Attended Hate America Sermon.

One of his correspondents allegedly attended a service last summer where Rev. Wright preached on the "United States of White America." Kessler writes that Obama "nodded" his head while Wright preached along these lines:



Addressing the Iraq war, Wright thundered, “Young African-American men” were “dying for nothing.” The “illegal war,” he shouted, was “based on Bush’s lies” and is being “fought for oil money.”
Now, a simple Google search suggests that Obama spent most of the day in Miami. But a simple e-mail or telephone call to Obama's campaign might have cleared things up.

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[CathrynRose]

Yep, perfectly logical. I can also see how you can believe that Obama could sit in a Church for 20 years and not know that it was a BLF church and that his friend, pastor and close spiritual advisor was a racist hate-monger.

Its truly jaw dropping.

But not Wright?

I guess not. But again.....

I did (not all) and have to wonder if Wright has a split personality.

Or some sort of personality disorder. What else could explain such extreme opposite personalities?

Or maybe he just did the "Obama Check" mentioned earlier in this thread.

 

[Fitswimmer]

Hmm -- I didn't now President Bush was running again.

To listen to a McCain speech-it sure sounds like he is. I guess I could check the McCain supporters thread here on the DIS and ask how he differs from GW....oh, wait....there isn't one....

 

[StrollPatrolMom]

All candidates for president have a life vastly different than the majority of Americans. Most of us have to have a regular job to pay the bills, health ins. etc. Senators can just sort of take a leave of absence. Good for them...but most working adults don't have the option of coming in or not, but still picking up a paycheck. I don't think being well educated, and well traveled is a negative.

well, I for one do not think John McCain has had an "easy" road to where he is today. Certainly not a silver spoon-fed prep school exsistence, scholarship or not.

 

[lilyv]

well, I for one do not think John McCain has had an "easy" road to where he is today. Certainly not a silver spoon-fed prep school exsistence, scholarship or not.

I appreciate McCain's service to our country very much. However, I'm not sure his dumping his wife to marry a beer heiress decision has made him a much better person than someone who studied hard at a college you don't seem to prefer.

 

[agentpleakley]

To listen to a McCain speech-it sure sounds like he is. I guess I could check the McCain supporters thread here on the DIS and ask how he differs from GW....oh, wait....there isn't one....

Hmm -- I guess going against the President's position and advancing the surge theory doesn't count -- for one

 

[chris1gill]

Hmm -- I guess going against the President's position and advancing the surge theory doesn't count -- for one

No, that was the President's idea, and it hasn't worked. The biggest reason for the downtick in violence there is our peace agreement with Al Sadir (sp?) and the Sunni's fighting the Al Qaeda that has come to Iraq. The reason for the surge was so that the Government of Iraq could come together and effect change. A recent report has indicated this just has not happened.

 

[Fitswimmer]

Hmm -- I guess going against the President's position and advancing the surge theory doesn't count -- for one

So GW stole his idea? Wow, I never heard him give McCain credit. That's not very nice.

 

[eclectics]

No, that was the President's idea, and it hasn't worked. The biggest reason for the downtick in violence there is our peace agreement with Al Sadir (sp?) and the Sunni's fighting the Al Qaeda that has come to Iraq. The reason for the surge was so that the Government of Iraq could come together and effect change. A recent report has indicated this just has not happened.

McCain got one thing right. It WILL take the Iraqi government 100 years to finally get it's act together.

 

[agentpleakley]

So GW stole his idea? Wow, I never heard him give McCain credit. That's not very nice.

McCain advocated the surge theory starting in 2003 -- and the president didn't adopt this theory until 2007