Boardwalk owners thoughts on SSR

[gjw007]

I don't understand the post withdrawal. 99% of the posts supported ZW here. Even the usual SSR defenders!

I don't understand the post withdrawal either.

 

[MJTinNH]

Like it or not, SSR is the current crown jewel of DVC. It's the site of their sales center and the first (often only) resort that folks will see when contemplating a $15,000 purchase. You're welcome to your opinions, Zurg, but frankly I'm a bit more inclined to put my faith in the folks who have spent the last 50 years designing and building vacation resorts. They didn't just pull a number out of a hat when deciding how many units to build.

"I don't like the menu at Artist's Palette" is useful dialogue.

"The pool and gift shop will be too small for the resort" is amateurish prognostication coming from anyone without a background in vacation resort design.

I have been reading this thread since its inception. In my humble opinion this quote is where it had now become a completely useless discussion of this or any other resort.

This statement seems to draw a divide between DVC I and DVC II. Remember it is all DVC. No resort, as far as I am concerned, is the absolute "best" of the group. As stated in many opinions "different strokes for different folks".

I appreciate that you have taken the time to learn as many facts about SSR and have wanted to share your joy with your new DVC Resort. But please, try to state your points without creating strife where it is really not necessary.

Like many others I read most threads that have "personal" experiences with all the resorts. Not one thread would influence me to not try out a DVC property. I store information and then make up my own mind. However, others impressions are sometimes insightful and help with the "expectation factor".

Again in "My humble opinion" we are all drawn to this board because of our love (maybe obsession) of Disney and DVC. Let's try to remain focused on our shared delight with DVC.

Peace to all

 

[dianeschlicht]

I have been reading this thread since its inception. In my humble opinion this quote is where it had now become a completely useless discussion of this or any other resort.

This statement seems to draw a divide between DVC I and DVC II. Remember it is all DVC. No resort, as far as I am concerned, is the absolute "best" of the group. As stated in many opinions "different strokes for different folks".

I appreciate that you have taken the time to learn as many facts about SSR and have wanted to share your joy with your new DVC Resort. But please, try to state your points without creating strife where it is really not necessary.

Like many others I read most threads that have "personal" experiences with all the resorts. Not one thread would influence me to not try out a DVC property. I store information and then make up my own mind. However, others impressions are sometimes insightful and help with the "expectation factor".

Again in "My humble opinion" we are all drawn to this board because of our love (maybe obsession) of Disney and DVC. Let's try to remain focused on our shared delight with DVC.

Peace to all

Thank you for that post, and with that, I think it's time to put this dead horse to rest!

 

[cruise-o-matic]

Thank you for that post, and with that, I think it's time to put this dead horse to rest!

Uh oh.....I just think you offended Rash.....

 

[lenshanem]

Wow, zurgswife. Guessed I missed all the excitement, uh?

I wish I could have read your report. We'll be at SSR this upcoming weekend.

I've also learned you gotta have thick skin on these boards. It amazes me the things people jump onto. It can get brutal.

 

[conciergekelly]

For what it is worth, I love SSR and didn't find the original post offensive at all. It was just your opinion.

 

[RweTHEREyet]

Thank you for that post, and with that, I think it's time to put this dead horse to rest!

you sure say that a lot..............

 

[Johnnie Fedora]

"I don't like the menu at Artist's Palette" is useful dialogue.

"The pool and gift shop will be too small for the resort" is amateurish prognostication coming from anyone without a background in vacation resort design.

Nice to see this thread has come around to the old "Mickey knows best" montra.

Maybe we should evaluate the differences in pool size by gallons of water/pool/max#resort guests...and not dimension. Anyone have the numbers??

The zero entry pool at SSR may have less swimable area (for adults) than the themed pool at other DVC resorts.

Johnnie Fedora does not have a license in vacation resort design and the opinions expressed are his own and do not reflect the opinion of the disboards or any other poster. Do not base you DVC vacationing habits soley on his recommendations.

 

[lllovell]

LMBO @ Johnnie's disclaimer

 

[Zurg]

"The pool and gift shop will be too small for the resort" is amateurish prognostication coming from anyone without a background in vacation resort design.

Well it wasn't resort design, but I spent a half dozen years as a VP responsible for retail facilities management, designing, building and refitting buildings to serve clients, creating flow and capacity to minimize queue times at reasonable staffing levels, present services and products to the clients in queue, etc. So while I maybe making amateurish assessments I humbly suggest they are at least somewhat informed amateurish assessments.

My comment simply was and is that the feature pool at SSR seems to be approaching capacity. You make a fine point, with which I have no argument, that the feature pool at BWV is close to and occasionally exceeds capacity too.

I have not meant to suggested otherwise. On the contrary I thank you for a very good point of clarification but I suggest it only strengthens my observation. For if the BWV and SSR are at relatively comparable feature pool usage levels and as you suggest that is at capacity, the experience at SSR's can only degrade as it expands.

I believe I used the term “disproportionate” in describing the relative capacity. I agree with your point that the feature pool at BWV is at capacity (and VWL may have exceeded capacity.) The significant difference is those resorts are not growing any bigger.

That SSR is growing is undeniable. Hence the suggestion that the proportions of the feature pool to the finished resort capacity is not inline with other comparable facilities seems to sufficiently reasonable as to be self evident. I am not sure that one needs to consult a resort architect to appreciate this.

The suggestion made, with regard to vacation resort design, seems to imply that Disney is so smart they can do no wrong (or at least not be criticized by amateurs such as myself.)

I agree they are very bright folk but I note in that regard to resort design and planning that their expectations for the Disney Institute were something less than infallible. SSR now stands on the grounds that were fit out for other uses not so long ago by the same bright corporate planning process with I am sure great projections of long term viability that didn't pan out.

So, given that as evidence of fallibility in Disney Resort design, I humbly suggest that my at least somewhat informed "amateurish assessments” are as entitled to expression as much as anyone's unfailing faith in the Disney Planning process.

I continue to see SSR as beautiful place, a BIG beautiful place with different services and near different local attractions, I like the furnishing, fixtures and appliances. My experience was of a different level of personal service from the cast than has been my DVC experience. The open halls turned me off, not necessarily the crown jewel. That there are differences of opinion and diversity within DVC is a strength of the program and all the more reason to own where you want to stay.

It strikes me as certain folly to behave as if pointing out the differences or preference of one set of service and amenities to another is harmful. On the contrary appreciation of those differences is what makes for the proverbial (staying with SSR theming) Horse Race and helps Members understand what to expect at each different resort.

 

[RobDoc]

... The sq. footage is a LOT smaller than BWV:
BWV studio-412 ft
SSR studio-355 ft.
BWV 1BR-814 sq. ft
SSR 1BR-714 sq.ft
...

I'm not certain of the source used for the room sizes above, but here are some commonly accepted room sizes for all of the DVC resorts, taken from the POS and Disney Travel Industry Guide:

OKW
Studio - 390, 1BR - 1005, 2BR - 1410, GV - 2375

Vero Beach
Studio - 375, 1BR - 880, 2BR - 1265, GV - 2125

Hilton Head
Studio - 455, 1BR - 856, 2BR - 1311, GV - 2362

BWV
Studio - 359, 1BR - 712, 2BR - 1071, GV - 2142

VWL
Studio - 356, 1BR - 727, 2BR - 1083

BCV
Studio - 356, 1BR - 727, 2BR - 1083

SSR
Studio - 359, 1BR - 714, 2BR - 1075, GV - 2113

My understanding is that these room sizes are averages- some rooms may be slightly larger or smaller, but the sizes are respresentative of the typical villas at each resort.

Since the topic for this thread has been deleted by the OP, further discussion seems to be a moot point at this time. If someone wishes to initiate a similar discussion and allow the topic of the discussion to remain intact, please feel free to do so in a new thread.