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Jason Garcia | Sentinel Staff Writer
September 16, 2008

The Walt Disney Co.'s rapidly growing time-share division takes an aggressive step forward today when it unveils plans for two new resorts in Orlando -- even as Disney Vacation Club battles some of the strongest financial headwinds it has ever faced.

Disney this morning will formally reveal plans for its Bay Lake Tower at Disney's Contemporary Resort, confirming earlier reports that the 15-story tower rising just beyond the Magic Kingdom will be used for time shares. The company also will unveil plans to sell time shares at the Treehouse Villas at Disney's Saratoga Springs Resort & Spa, a secluded community of 60 units that is being rebuilt in a forested pocket of Walt Disney World.

The twin announcements ensure that Celebration-based Disney Vacation Club, which has grown to nine resorts and more than 350,000 members, will have more time shares for sale in 2009 than it has ever had before.

Company executives say they are confident of strong demand for their newest resorts despite the slumping U.S. economy, which has eroded consumer spending and made financing for big-ticket purchases such as time shares harder to obtain.




"What we're trying to do, particularly with the resorts that we build on site [at Walt Disney World], is really provide something that's unique, something that you can't get any other place in Central Florida -- and, really, in the world," said Jim Lewis, president of Disney Vacation Club. "With these two resorts, we believe we've done that."

The company is especially optimistic about the roughly 300-unit Bay Lake Tower, which will be linked to the iconic Contemporary Resort by a fifth-floor pedestrian bridge and will feature the first time shares Disney has ever sold within walking distance of the Magic Kingdom theme park. Sales will begin Sunday, with first crack going to existing Vacation Club owners.

"We think it's going to do very, very well," Lewis said. "That is a premium location . . . right across the street -- literally -- from our flagship park."

Disney will command a premium price for that convenience. Lewis said prices at Bay Lake Tower will begin at $18,000 -- the most expensive starting point of any Vacation Club resort. Prices at Disney's Animal Kingdom Villas, which opened its first phase last year, begin just below $17,000.

The 60 elevated homes comprising the Treehouse Villas will be built as a new phase of the Saratoga Springs resort near Downtown Disney. A sales date and prices haven't yet been set.

The Treehouse Villas will open next summer. Bay Lake Tower will follow in the fall.

Although different in size and theme, Disney says both resorts share a similar heritage.

The Contemporary, which was just the second hotel to open at Walt Disney World, is one of the park's most recognizable monuments, with its mammoth, A-frame structure straddling the resort's monorail. The Treehouses have stood in a quiet corner of the park since 1975, used at various times as hotel rooms, Disney Institute housing, and dorms for international student-employees.


Design challenges

When designers first set to work on blueprints for an addition to the Contemporary, concepts ranged from copies of the main hotel to a "George Jetson"-like theme, said Bill Hanus, director of development at Walt Disney Imagineering. But they worried about constructing a building that could be seen as competing with the original. They opted instead to build a crescent-shaped tower, hoping the Bay Lake Tower's curved architecture will complement the angular Contemporary.
There are touches of symmetry: Exterior grooves marking each floor are aligned in both buildings, and a rooftop lounge on the Bay Lake Tower matches the California Grill restaurant on top of the Contemporary.

Inside, designers have made sure to emphasize the views that they hope will ultimately make Bay Lake Tower one of Disney Vacation Club's most sought-after resorts. Rooms will contain nearly wall-length windows that open to views of the Magic Kingdom or Bay Lake. Some bathrooms will even have sliding walls allowing guests to watch fireworks while soaking in tubs.

"It feels like a Tomorrowland building," Hanus said, alluding to the section of the Magic Kingdom that the tower overlooks.


Saving trees

Each of the new Treehouse Villas has been manufactured in sections at a factory in Wingate, Pa., and they are being installed by cranes that lift them over existing treetops. That approach will allow Disney to build modern, 1,200-square-foot homes without damaging the lush, campsite feel that many Disney fans recall, said Jim Durham, vice president of resort projects for Imagineering.

Disney Vacation Club is now scheduled to have space in four time-share resorts for sale in 2009, with Bay Lake Tower and the Treehouse Villas joining the Animal Kingdom Villas and the upcoming Villas at Disney's Grand Californian Hotel & Spa at Disneyland in California. It will be the first time the company has had four resorts for sale at once.
Disney is also in the early stages of developing a roughly 800-room resort in Hawaii that will include both time shares and hotel rooms.

"It's certainly going to be challenging," said Jeremy Glaser, a lodging industry analyst with the research firm Morningstar Inc. "I think they'll find buyers, just not at the same speed as they were before."

But Lewis said Disney's investment in Bay Lake Tower and the Treehouse Villas demonstrate its confidence that its time-share business will remain strong.

"During tough economic times, people are really a little bit more receptive to a message regarding how you can save money on future vacations," Lewis said. "Clearly, we're not recession-proof. But we are recession-resilient."


Jason Garcia can be reached at jrgarcia@orlandosentinel.com or 407-420-5414.
 
Jason Garcia | Sentinel Staff Writer
September 16, 2008

The Walt Disney Co.'s rapidly growing time-share division takes an aggressive step forward today when it unveils plans for two new resorts in Orlando -- even as Disney Vacation Club battles some of the strongest financial headwinds it has ever faced.

Disney this morning will formally reveal plans for its Bay Lake Tower at Disney's Contemporary Resort, confirming earlier reports that the 15-story tower rising just beyond the Magic Kingdom will be used for time shares. The company also will unveil plans to sell time shares at the Treehouse Villas at Disney's Saratoga Springs Resort & Spa, a secluded community of 60 units that is being rebuilt in a forested pocket of Walt Disney World.

The twin announcements ensure that Celebration-based Disney Vacation Club, which has grown to nine resorts and more than 350,000 members, will have more time shares for sale in 2009 than it has ever had before.

Company executives say they are confident of strong demand for their newest resorts despite the slumping U.S. economy, which has eroded consumer spending and made financing for big-ticket purchases such as time shares harder to obtain.




"What we're trying to do, particularly with the resorts that we build on site [at Walt Disney World], is really provide something that's unique, something that you can't get any other place in Central Florida -- and, really, in the world," said Jim Lewis, president of Disney Vacation Club. "With these two resorts, we believe we've done that."

The company is especially optimistic about the roughly 300-unit Bay Lake Tower, which will be linked to the iconic Contemporary Resort by a fifth-floor pedestrian bridge and will feature the first time shares Disney has ever sold within walking distance of the Magic Kingdom theme park. Sales will begin Sunday, with first crack going to existing Vacation Club owners.

"We think it's going to do very, very well," Lewis said. "That is a premium location . . . right across the street -- literally -- from our flagship park."

Disney will command a premium price for that convenience. Lewis said prices at Bay Lake Tower will begin at $18,000 -- the most expensive starting point of any Vacation Club resort. Prices at Disney's Animal Kingdom Villas, which opened its first phase last year, begin just below $17,000.

The 60 elevated homes comprising the Treehouse Villas will be built as a new phase of the Saratoga Springs resort near Downtown Disney. A sales date and prices haven't yet been set.

The Treehouse Villas will open next summer. Bay Lake Tower will follow in the fall.

Although different in size and theme, Disney says both resorts share a similar heritage.

The Contemporary, which was just the second hotel to open at Walt Disney World, is one of the park's most recognizable monuments, with its mammoth, A-frame structure straddling the resort's monorail. The Treehouses have stood in a quiet corner of the park since 1975, used at various times as hotel rooms, Disney Institute housing, and dorms for international student-employees.


Design challenges

When designers first set to work on blueprints for an addition to the Contemporary, concepts ranged from copies of the main hotel to a "George Jetson"-like theme, said Bill Hanus, director of development at Walt Disney Imagineering. But they worried about constructing a building that could be seen as competing with the original. They opted instead to build a crescent-shaped tower, hoping the Bay Lake Tower's curved architecture will complement the angular Contemporary.
There are touches of symmetry: Exterior grooves marking each floor are aligned in both buildings, and a rooftop lounge on the Bay Lake Tower matches the California Grill restaurant on top of the Contemporary.

Inside, designers have made sure to emphasize the views that they hope will ultimately make Bay Lake Tower one of Disney Vacation Club's most sought-after resorts. Rooms will contain nearly wall-length windows that open to views of the Magic Kingdom or Bay Lake. Some bathrooms will even have sliding walls allowing guests to watch fireworks while soaking in tubs.

"It feels like a Tomorrowland building," Hanus said, alluding to the section of the Magic Kingdom that the tower overlooks.


Saving trees

Each of the new Treehouse Villas has been manufactured in sections at a factory in Wingate, Pa., and they are being installed by cranes that lift them over existing treetops. That approach will allow Disney to build modern, 1,200-square-foot homes without damaging the lush, campsite feel that many Disney fans recall, said Jim Durham, vice president of resort projects for Imagineering.

Disney Vacation Club is now scheduled to have space in four time-share resorts for sale in 2009, with Bay Lake Tower and the Treehouse Villas joining the Animal Kingdom Villas and the upcoming Villas at Disney's Grand Californian Hotel & Spa at Disneyland in California. It will be the first time the company has had four resorts for sale at once.
Disney is also in the early stages of developing a roughly 800-room resort in Hawaii that will include both time shares and hotel rooms.

"It's certainly going to be challenging," said Jeremy Glaser, a lodging industry analyst with the research firm Morningstar Inc. "I think they'll find buyers, just not at the same speed as they were before."

But Lewis said Disney's investment in Bay Lake Tower and the Treehouse Villas demonstrate its confidence that its time-share business will remain strong.

"During tough economic times, people are really a little bit more receptive to a message regarding how you can save money on future vacations," Lewis said. "Clearly, we're not recession-proof. But we are recession-resilient."


Jason Garcia can be reached at jrgarcia@orlandosentinel.com or 407-420-5414.

Well there you go - $18K = $112.5 per point for 160 points. Sales start Sunday according to this - wow. And the Treehouses - too... very cool. Now if only they would announce the date that sales will begin for the Grand Californian... it's on the top page of the Sentinel's website today.
 

So the treehouses WILL be part of SSR-- how will that work do you think? Will present SSR owners have an 11 month booking window advantage? As an SSR owner, and someone who always stayed in the treehouses as a kid, that would make me SO HAPPY!!!
 
So the treehouses WILL be part of SSR-- how will that work do you think? Will present SSR owners have an 11 month booking window advantage? As an SSR owner, and someone who always stayed in the treehouses as a kid, that would make me SO HAPPY!!!

It says a new phase of SSR, so it sounds like it will be part of SSR, not separate.

Is the minimum 150 or 160 for BLT? 150 would $120 a point, 160 would be $112.50.
 
It says a new phase of SSR, so it sounds like it will be part of SSR, not separate.

Is the minimum 150 or 160 for BLT? 150 would $120 a point, 160 would be $112.50.


Wow, that $83.30/point we paid during friends and family is looking like a pretty great deal now! :cool1:
 
It says a new phase of SSR, so it sounds like it will be part of SSR, not separate.

Is the minimum 150 or 160 for BLT? 150 would $120 a point, 160 would be $112.50.

I hope that's the case. Trying to decide if we want to get on board for any of this. I've never really liked the Contemporary but it's soooo tempting.
 
So the treehouses WILL be part of SSR-- how will that work do you think? Will present SSR owners have an 11 month booking window advantage? As an SSR owner, and someone who always stayed in the treehouses as a kid, that would make me SO HAPPY!!!

That could be a LOT of owners competing at the 11 month window for the treehouses. Saratoga has by far the largest number of owners and there's only 60 villas. I'd say that'll pretty much shut out any other DVC owners who wish to book at the 7 month window. Interesting to see how that would play out.
 
Finally - I wonder if this was supposed to happen on the 18th?
 
I was wondering about the point minimum too. I also really want to see a point chart prior to buying. DH has been waiting for this announcement and it totally excited but if the points chart is too high we will not be buying in.
 
Finally - I wonder if this was supposed to happen on the 18th?

Kind of funny that this is the same date they are showing the DVC special on the Travel Channel, "Disney's Best Kept Secret". The day they announce the BLT they are running the special too?:idea:
 
That could be a LOT of owners competing at the 11 month window for the treehouses. Saratoga has by far the largest number of owners and there's only 60 villas. I'd say that'll pretty much shut out any other DVC owners who wish to book at the 7 month window. Interesting to see how that would play out.

Well, that wouldn't be too different than the standard views at the BWV. Those are practically mythical at this point. As an SSR owner, I kinda feel like it's our turn to have a home-point advantage, even if there will still be a ton of competition with each other. I wonder if Disney did this to boost resales of SSR to maintain the integrity of DVC as a whole. Many have speculated that it wouldn't make sense for DVD to improve a resort that is already sold out, but I think the Treehouses will absolutely boost SSR resales and that's good for everyone.
 
That could be a LOT of owners competing at the 11 month window for the treehouses. Saratoga has by far the largest number of owners and there's only 60 villas. I'd say that'll pretty much shut out any other DVC owners who wish to book at the 7 month window. Interesting to see how that would play out.

Not much different than those concierge rooms at AKV :rolleyes1

I really thought this announcement was going to be the Big Announcement scheduled for the 18th :confused3 So what is that announcement going to be???
 
I was wondering about the point minimum too. I also really want to see a point chart prior to buying. DH has been waiting for this announcement and it totally excited but if the points chart is too high we will not be buying in.

That's a good point. I'm also a bit leary of jumping on the first round of these. Isn't there a history of Disney offering better deals down the road? Or do y'all think they are going to sell so fast it won't matter?


I'm trying to be a grown-up and not get caught up in all the excitement. Think I better just sit back and stick with my plan to add on a bit later. Will be interested to see what happens to the resale market after these start sellng. It may work out well for everyone.

Good luck everybody!
 
I can't wait to see the point chart for BLT. Not sure if we'll add on there or not. DH and I have talked about it before-I guess its time to revisit that conversation again. ;)
 
I'm trying to be a grown-up and not get caught up in all the excitement.

I'm not even going to TRY to be grown-up! :lmao: The Treehouses!!!!!!!! :cool1: :cool1: :cool1: :goodvibes

Thanks for the info! :)
 
I hope that's the case. Trying to decide if we want to get on board for any of this. I've never really liked the Contemporary but it's soooo tempting.

i've been waiting to add on (@ CR) for a couple years, like a little kid waiting for Xmas...

cannot justify it now, too bad scrooge has come in the form of wall street meltdown:sad2:
 



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