Black Friday Buddies 2009 Unite! SCORE REPORTS, WAIT STORIES, HAULS FOR DAY!!
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GARDEN CITY, N.Y. The death of a temporary employee who was crushed in a stampede of post-Thanksgiving shoppers at a Long Island Wal-Mart store could have been prevented, federal officials said Tuesday as they proposed fining the world's largest retailer $7,000.
The U.S. Department of Labor's Occupational Safety and Health Administration announced it was citing Wal-Mart Stores Inc. for inadequate crowd management following the Nov. 28, 2008, death of Jdimytai Damour.
The 6-foot-5, 270-pound Damour had been on the job for about a week when a crowd estimated at 2,000 strong broke down the Valley Stream store's doors in search of pre-dawn bargains, trapping him in a vestibule. The 34-year-old Queens man died of asphyxiation. Eleven other people, including a pregnant woman, were injured.
"Effective planning and crowd management could have prevented this incident and its grave consequences," said Robert Kulick, OSHA's regional administrator in New York. The retailer has 15 days to respond to the allegations, which could lead to a fine of $7,000, Kulick said.
The fine is the maximum allowed, OSHA said. The agency said it issues such serious citations when "death or serious physical harm is likely to result from hazards about which the employer knew or should have known."
Daphne Moore, a spokeswoman for the retailer, based in Bentonville, Ark., said in a statement that Wal-Mart has "never had a tragedy like this occur in our stores and we never want it to happen again."
The company disagrees with the type of citations issued, she said.
"There is no OSHA or retail industry guidance that would have alerted us to this type of unforeseeable hazard," Moore said. "We expect to resolve this matter in a constructive manner that fosters the safety and well-being of our associates."
Nassau County District Attorney Kathleen Rice announced this month that she was ending a criminal investigation of the stampede after Wal-Mart agreed to pay nearly $2 million and improve safety at its 92 New York stores. The retailer also said it would consider safety improvements beyond New York.
Rice contended that had the company been found guilty of a crime, it would have been subject to a maximum fine of $10,000.
Instead, she said, the company agreed to improve crowd management at post-Thanksgiving Day sales, set up a $400,000 fund for victims, and give $1.5 million to county social services programs and nonprofit groups.
An attorney for Damour's family did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the citation but has previously criticized the prosecutor's settlement, as have attorneys for other victims. Damour's family, as well as a number of other victims, have announced plans for lawsuits.
The U.S. Department of Labor's Occupational Safety and Health Administration announced it was citing Wal-Mart Stores Inc. for inadequate crowd management following the Nov. 28, 2008, death of Jdimytai Damour.
The 6-foot-5, 270-pound Damour had been on the job for about a week when a crowd estimated at 2,000 strong broke down the Valley Stream store's doors in search of pre-dawn bargains, trapping him in a vestibule. The 34-year-old Queens man died of asphyxiation. Eleven other people, including a pregnant woman, were injured.
"Effective planning and crowd management could have prevented this incident and its grave consequences," said Robert Kulick, OSHA's regional administrator in New York. The retailer has 15 days to respond to the allegations, which could lead to a fine of $7,000, Kulick said.
The fine is the maximum allowed, OSHA said. The agency said it issues such serious citations when "death or serious physical harm is likely to result from hazards about which the employer knew or should have known."
Daphne Moore, a spokeswoman for the retailer, based in Bentonville, Ark., said in a statement that Wal-Mart has "never had a tragedy like this occur in our stores and we never want it to happen again."
The company disagrees with the type of citations issued, she said.
"There is no OSHA or retail industry guidance that would have alerted us to this type of unforeseeable hazard," Moore said. "We expect to resolve this matter in a constructive manner that fosters the safety and well-being of our associates."
Nassau County District Attorney Kathleen Rice announced this month that she was ending a criminal investigation of the stampede after Wal-Mart agreed to pay nearly $2 million and improve safety at its 92 New York stores. The retailer also said it would consider safety improvements beyond New York.
Rice contended that had the company been found guilty of a crime, it would have been subject to a maximum fine of $10,000.
Instead, she said, the company agreed to improve crowd management at post-Thanksgiving Day sales, set up a $400,000 fund for victims, and give $1.5 million to county social services programs and nonprofit groups.
An attorney for Damour's family did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the citation but has previously criticized the prosecutor's settlement, as have attorneys for other victims. Damour's family, as well as a number of other victims, have announced plans for lawsuits.
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Ripped from Gottadeal.com, BigJimSlade:
FAQ:
What is a ticket at Best Buy ?
A ticket is a paper that BB employees will pass about 2 hours before the store opens. The ticket holds the product for the ticket holder for the item on the ticket until 11am local time on Black Friday. BB does this to cut down on fights and riots in the store.
What are the tickets for?
No one really knows what BB will put on the ticket system for BF. In the past they have been for items that are in high demand but have limited stock for. In the past few years items included desktops, laptops, cameras (Digital and SLR Film), MP3 players, GPS, TVs (HD, Plasma, LCD, Tube), Printers, and sometimes household items like washer machines.
Is the ticket system company wide or just a local program?
The ticket system is a company wide system. The tickets come from BB HQ and are sent under strict security to the stores about 1 week before BF.
When do they pass out the tickets?
The tickets are passed out the morning of Black Friday about 2-3 hours before the store opens local time.
What happens when they pass out the tickets?
About 2 hours before they open the doors for black friday Best Buy employees will come out of the store and start at the front of the line. One BB worker will have a ticket for an item. He/she will start at the front of the line and go down the line saying "Who wants the $149.99 desktop?". He/she will give each person a ticket until the BB employee runs out. Once the tickets are gone for that item then that is it for that item. BB employee will do this until all of the ticketed items are gone or until they have reached the end of the line.
Once I have a ticket what happens next?
You wait......You wait until the store opens. The BB worker who gave you the ticket will explain to you where to go in the store to pick up your item. Most BB will close there customer service desk to make room for all check out lanes to be open so pay attention on where you are told to go to pick up your item.
Is there a limit on how many tickets I can get?
Most ticketed items are one per a person per an item. For example if you want 1 desktop and 1 digital camera then you will get two tickets. If you want 2 of the SAME item you wont be able to get it since there will be a limit of one per a person. Some stores will even go the extra mile of checking ID's so be ready to show your ID if asked.
Can I get out of line after I get my ticket?
My advice to you would be no. At the BB last year the manager told us and the 6 police officers in FULL tactical gear that if anyone leaves they lose there place in line and ticket.
What time should I get in line for a ticket?
It is hard to say since I don't know what you are wanting to get and where you live. Last year (BF 2008) people started to form lines at BB around 10pm Wednesday and by 12 noon Thanksgiving Day there were already 300 people in line. Most of the people in front of the lines wanted the laptops, desktops and TVs and they were college and high school students. It all depends on the weather as well. My advice....get there early.....Turkey is over rated!
Is there anything else I need to know?
Keep your eyes on this thread. I have sources at BB that will give me updated info if needed. Also remember that BB HQ gives local managers the power to customize the ticket system to fit there own store and community. This FAQ is only created as a guide only. If you have any more questions please post!
This FAQ will be updated throughout the BF season. Below is a sample ticket from BB.
FAQ:
What is a ticket at Best Buy ?
A ticket is a paper that BB employees will pass about 2 hours before the store opens. The ticket holds the product for the ticket holder for the item on the ticket until 11am local time on Black Friday. BB does this to cut down on fights and riots in the store.
What are the tickets for?
No one really knows what BB will put on the ticket system for BF. In the past they have been for items that are in high demand but have limited stock for. In the past few years items included desktops, laptops, cameras (Digital and SLR Film), MP3 players, GPS, TVs (HD, Plasma, LCD, Tube), Printers, and sometimes household items like washer machines.
Is the ticket system company wide or just a local program?
The ticket system is a company wide system. The tickets come from BB HQ and are sent under strict security to the stores about 1 week before BF.
When do they pass out the tickets?
The tickets are passed out the morning of Black Friday about 2-3 hours before the store opens local time.
What happens when they pass out the tickets?
About 2 hours before they open the doors for black friday Best Buy employees will come out of the store and start at the front of the line. One BB worker will have a ticket for an item. He/she will start at the front of the line and go down the line saying "Who wants the $149.99 desktop?". He/she will give each person a ticket until the BB employee runs out. Once the tickets are gone for that item then that is it for that item. BB employee will do this until all of the ticketed items are gone or until they have reached the end of the line.
Once I have a ticket what happens next?
You wait......You wait until the store opens. The BB worker who gave you the ticket will explain to you where to go in the store to pick up your item. Most BB will close there customer service desk to make room for all check out lanes to be open so pay attention on where you are told to go to pick up your item.
Is there a limit on how many tickets I can get?
Most ticketed items are one per a person per an item. For example if you want 1 desktop and 1 digital camera then you will get two tickets. If you want 2 of the SAME item you wont be able to get it since there will be a limit of one per a person. Some stores will even go the extra mile of checking ID's so be ready to show your ID if asked.
Can I get out of line after I get my ticket?
My advice to you would be no. At the BB last year the manager told us and the 6 police officers in FULL tactical gear that if anyone leaves they lose there place in line and ticket.
What time should I get in line for a ticket?
It is hard to say since I don't know what you are wanting to get and where you live. Last year (BF 2008) people started to form lines at BB around 10pm Wednesday and by 12 noon Thanksgiving Day there were already 300 people in line. Most of the people in front of the lines wanted the laptops, desktops and TVs and they were college and high school students. It all depends on the weather as well. My advice....get there early.....Turkey is over rated!
Is there anything else I need to know?
Keep your eyes on this thread. I have sources at BB that will give me updated info if needed. Also remember that BB HQ gives local managers the power to customize the ticket system to fit there own store and community. This FAQ is only created as a guide only. If you have any more questions please post!
This FAQ will be updated throughout the BF season. Below is a sample ticket from BB.
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here is some interesting reading....
http://dealnews.com/features/The-dealnews-2009-Black-Friday-Predictions/317799.html?page=3
http://dealnews.com/features/The-dealnews-2009-Black-Friday-Predictions/317799.html?page=3
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I can hardly wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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I'm in! I love black friday shopping. My family has a whole game plan. 
I am partially done shopping for the nieces and nephews, but I have a long way to go with DS. I am looking for toy deals primarily. I am hoping that Michael's has Thanksgiving Day deals like last year...there is nothing wrong with getting a little something for yourself is there?!
I am partially done shopping for the nieces and nephews, but I have a long way to go with DS. I am looking for toy deals primarily. I am hoping that Michael's has Thanksgiving Day deals like last year...there is nothing wrong with getting a little something for yourself is there?!
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Yay for Black Friday thread!!!! I look forward to this ever year. Count me in.
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Suscribing too 
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Count me in too! DH is a shopper, so Im pretty lucky. We have most everything we need already, but there is usually a few things we like to get during black friday and who can pass up the deals and all they hype!
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DH has informed me that I have to get a Blu Ray player for him this year otherwise he said he's going to buy it and knowing him, he'll pay full price. I also want to get DD a digital camera.
So I'm in.
So I'm in.
Also wondering if IKEA will have any deals?
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Great! I'm joining in again this year.
If you're taking requests, then how about Micheals, Jo-Ann's and AC Moore? There are a lot of "Creative Dissers" on here and I'd love to know what these three stores have on BF.
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