BIG BROTHER 19! SPOILER THREAD! "SUMMER OF TEMPTATION"

[DisneyLover1217]

There has been talk that Raven knows Paul. I know I saw a picture of her and Paul that was posted on her Instagram, but that doesn't necessarily prove anything. It could have been taken at a meet and greet, but there is a video posted of Raven, Paul and Victor at a BB18 party. Raven also told Matt that both Paul and Victor follow her on Instagram. So it does look like they may actually be friends. Right now it looks like Paul does not intend on taking Raven to Final 2, but if he does, it will look very suspicious and more than likely had an alliance before the show even started. I know a few times Raven tries to talk to Paul about something and Paul says stop we can't talk about that. Wonder how the cast will feel when they find out they were friends before the show started. I can't post the video because there is cursing in it, but if you go on twitter and search bbsurvivor_fan17 you'll see the video.

 

[MeeskaMooska13]

I know that this may be old news to some of you but I just watched a YouTube clip of Raven telling Matt about how she knew Paul before coming in to the house - more than just randomly meeting him at a "Meet and Greet". In the clip, she is concerned about Jessica being at home seeing her "Social Media" page (starts with an "I") page and discovering this.

Another advantage Paul had.

 

[lorimay]

HEATH ALERT HEALTH ALERT:

Raven has just informed the houseguests she has Fibroid Cysts in her breasts......... And if she needs a breast reduction or has the BRAC gene, it will be very hard to remove her breasts....... What the h*** She must have notebook somewhere with all these ailments listed.

 

[DisneyFan32WI]

I have nothing to watch on television tonight. That is all.

 

[jiminyC_fan]

HEATH ALERT HEALTH ALERT:

Raven has just informed the houseguests she has Fibroid Cysts in her breasts......... And if she needs a breast reduction or has the BRAC gene, it will be very hard to remove her breasts....... What the h*** She must have notebook somewhere with all these ailments listed.

I'm sorry but she seriously has mental issues. I wonder if Munchhausen is treatable if in fact that is what she actually has. Or is it simply a ploy to get the HG to feel sorry for her and vote her the winner?

 

[MeeskaMooska13]

There has been talk that Raven knows Paul. I know I saw a picture of her and Paul that was posted on her Instagram, but that doesn't necessarily prove anything. It could have been taken at a meet and greet, but there is a video posted of Raven, Paul and Victor at a BB18 party. Raven also told Matt that both Paul and Victor follow her on Instagram. So it does look like they may actually be friends. Right now it looks like Paul does not intend on taking Raven to Final 2, but if he does, it will look very suspicious and more than likely had an alliance before the show even started. I know a few times Raven tries to talk to Paul about something and Paul says stop we can't talk about that. Wonder how the cast will feel when they find out they were friends before the show started. I can't post the video because there is cursing in it, but if you go on twitter and search bbsurvivor_fan17 you'll see the video.

Sorry to be redundent! I didn't see your post before I posted mine!

 

[MeeskaMooska13]

I'm sorry but she seriously has mental issues. I wonder if Munchhausen is treatable if in fact that is what she actually has. Or is it simply a ploy to get the HG to feel sorry for her and vote her the winner?

Or maybe her mom tells her this stuff and she just blindly believes it??

 

[Pacolovestacos]

I think we can all agree on Raven. She's annoying and I actually cringe whenever she gives a pre-eviction speech about her health issues.

 

[jiminyC_fan]

Or maybe her mom tells her this stuff and she just blindly believes it??

I wish I knew the truth!

 

[DisneyLover1217]

There has been talk that Raven's mom has convinced her she is sick when she is not, but then again, Raven has said more than once that so many doctors told her nothing was wrong with her, that it was all in her head until she finally found the one doctor that said she had GP like her mom.

I tried reading up on GP and honestly I don't think Raven has it. I'm no doctor, but she claims to have a severe case of it. If that's true she would not be able to eat the way she is. You are suppose to be on a very healthy diet to help with digestion and she eats the most unhealthy things like it's her last day on Earth with no sign of pain. She claimed that if she ate red meat or drank milk she would die, but of course when she was caught eating red meat and having ice cream she then said she would roll around in pain, which has never happened. She told Alex she couldn't eat her shepherds pie because it had ground meat and then turns around and proceeds to make tacos with the same ground meat. She is obviously lying. I don't know if she is trying to exaggerate for game play, but at least be believable if that is what you are trying to do.

The whole knee thing is a lie, if she had no cartilage she would be in excruciating pain, like my mom who does not have cartilage and is getting a knee replacement in a couple of months. Raven also claims that every nerve in her body hurts her every day, yet she dances around, throws herself down onto the ground into a split every day. Again, if she is faking illnesses for game play, at least be believable. If you are constantly going to contradict yourself you are either a terrible liar or have severe mental issues to think you are fooling people.

I do say this not meaning to be funny, but I do believe Raven has severe mental issues and is in desperate need of help. Again, how CBS could cast someone so unstable I don't know.

 

[lovin'fl]

Well I would say both Raven and Josh are perfect annoying unlikable characters to go to F2 with....GoATS!

 

[DisneyLover1217]

Christmas has no clue how right she is about the backlash Raven will receive:


xmas is going off about raven victimizing herself.. i could never in my heart to say this,.. she is going to get so much backlash.. she is going to need major therapy ..major..

paul: i hope not

xmas: they have heard all the _____she has said

paul: they can cut scenes (little do they know they did a whole segment on her lies, of course not all of them)

xmas: the live feeders

xmas: im not badmouthing this girl, she has had a lot of things that happened to them.. we all shut up where we tell each other stories with out interrupting .. no one can talk about anything w/her interrupting.. i was trying to have a legitimate conversation.. and then she interjects .. she doesn't even deserve to hear the end of my conversation

 

[lorimay]

A lot of people on other forums, criticize Raven for her weight gain since being in the house, I honestly think she looks better now. She looked so thin when she came into the house, unhealthy thin.
This is why I think the mother had something to do with all her "illnesses". She obviously enjoys food, but didn't seem to be eating much before she came into the house. Momma is making a living off of Raven.

 

[RedSox68]

THIS!!! I hate that! They just walk in and never knock. Sometimes they are in there and the actual HOH isn't even there, they act like it is any other room.

And they are constantly using that bathroom (without permission I'm sure). Yes -- please at least have the decency to knock! I wonder if that door can be locked? I swear, I'd brace a chair against it LOL

I don't. He didn't come off as great a guy to me, I guess. The way he went ballistic on Jason last week showed his true colors. He was basically a lazy man who wanted to just float his way to money. He just happened to go for a little nooky while he waited. I no longer think he will be shocked or upset when they get out of the house. I think he will still want to be with her and believe everyone is just out to get her. On the other hand, I see her staying with him only as long as it brings her attention or benefits her in some way.

Jason deserved any screaming match he got -- he bold-face lied to both Matt and Raven, and his other previous vocal antics have made him a hot mess in the eyes of many. He's a walking contradiction of beliefs and morals and I was thrilled to FINALLY see someone verbally take him down for all the crap he has slung [yes, so has everyone else -- but at least one of these losers got put in their place]

 

[RedSox68]

There has been talk that Raven's mom has convinced her she is sick when she is not, but then again, Raven has said more than once that so many doctors told her nothing was wrong with her, that it was all in her head until she finally found the one doctor that said she had GP like her mom.

I tried reading up on GP and honestly I don't think Raven has it. I'm no doctor, but she claims to have a severe case of it. If that's true she would not be able to eat the way she is. You are suppose to be on a very healthy diet to help with digestion and she eats the most unhealthy things like it's her last day on Earth with no sign of pain. She claimed that if she ate red meat or drank milk she would die, but of course when she was caught eating red meat and having ice cream she then said she would roll around in pain, which has never happened. She told Alex she couldn't eat her shepherds pie because it had ground meat and then turns around and proceeds to make tacos with the same ground meat. She is obviously lying. I don't know if she is trying to exaggerate for game play, but at least be believable if that is what you are trying to do.

The whole knee thing is a lie, if she had no cartilage she would be in excruciating pain, like my mom who does not have cartilage and is getting a knee replacement in a couple of months. Raven also claims that every nerve in her body hurts her every day, yet she dances around, throws herself down onto the ground into a split every day. Again, if she is faking illnesses for game play, at least be believable. If you are constantly going to contradict yourself you are either a terrible liar or have severe mental issues to think you are fooling people.

I do say this not meaning to be funny, but I do believe Raven has severe mental issues and is in desperate need of help. Again, how CBS could cast someone so unstable I don't know.

THIS. Watching her you realize that she not only lives in a princess fantasy world (telling everyone that both Matt and Jason are going to beat up Cody for her), but her list of ailments combined would have kept her from being on this show as it would have been way too dangerous to allow her to compete (IF she were indeed so "ill"). My husband has to get gel shots in his knees for loss of cartilege and has a horrid time walking because of it -- something which Raven shows no signs of having. I have fibromyalgia and I can tell you that on a bad day, when every nerve is at a salute, I can barely use my arms or hands and my legs are in agony -- symptoms she again does not even get close to presenting.

I can only go by what I see each show, but I too think this girl has either been brainwashed into believing she has all these illnesses and symptoms, or is just an out and out hypochondriac and enjoys telling people she is so "sick".

Either way, it infuriates me that she is making it look so bad for those of us who have real illnesses and physical problems! I wish she had been voted out sooner because even getting money for staying in the house is undeserved.

 

[Mizzoufan]

I really think Raven has Munchausen syndrome

 

[RedSox68]

I really think Raven has Munchausen syndrome

Yep, describes her perfectly: Munchausen syndrome is a factitious disorder, a mental disorder in which a person repeatedly and deliberately acts as if he or she has a physical or mental illness when he or she is not really sick. Munchausen syndrome is considered a mental illness because it is associated with severe emotional difficulties.

Matt is in for a boatload of pandering and coddling and tiptoeing around her if they stay together !

 

[MeeskaMooska13]

I really think Raven has Munchausen syndrome

Or, perhaps her mom has Munchausen by Proxy (and has convinced her of these ailments)?

 

[Mizzoufan]

Or, perhaps her mom has Munchausen by Proxy (and has convinced her of these ailments)?

Very good point

 

[RedSox68]

Or, perhaps her mom has Munchausen by Proxy (and has convinced her of these ailments)?

And now maybe family will get them both help if this is true!