I use to by the reman cartridges for my HP 660 and they were a nightmare. Every one leaked ink. Ended up having to take the printer apart and wash it in the shower... I also tried to use them in my 970 and two of the ones i got only had red ink. Should have been three color... So now i just get new HP cartridges from ebay. You can get in date ones or out of date ones. I have used out of date ones a couple times w/o any problems. So i would give ebay a look at... If epson puts a date on them try not to get ones that are more then a year out of date. I saw tons of HPs on ebay that were 5, 6 or more years out of date.