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[Tandy]

Thanks for information. I wouldn't take the military's actions in Okinawa as any sign of what to expect here though. I'm a US Marine and am all to familiar with how the Japanese/US handle the situations at Camp Butler. These are the same people that banned alcohol in response to sexual assault by servicemember on a civilian.

I hope it's similar overreactions to that.

I think plus keeping a close contact area like a base or ship with limited hospital beds and such is high priority. They dont want a virus to wipe out a whole fleet and leave our defense in any vulnerability

 

[hnthomps]

I found this article really helpful.
https://blogs.scientificamerican.co...rV0jG6ay6sE_ykRmVcCC6gHKlO_MqpUc9iKn0Mj8L2feY

 

[Dreams&wishes]

I have just finished watching the press conference for the Lombardy Region and the situation it's not good. They called in all the directors of the main hospitals so to give a scientific prospective to the whole thing and report on the current hospital situation. They all emphatically said that this is not a common flu. They said that until now it looks like one person can pass it to 2.5 people and that the virus has been going around Italy since January. They currently have 235 in hospital and 85 in intensive therapy. Some hospitals like the Sacco have finished their spots and are creating new ones. They say the patients deteriorate very quickly.

 

[DLgal]

Thanks for information. I wouldn't take the military's actions in Okinawa as any sign of what to expect here though. I'm a US Marine and am all to familiar with how the Japanese/US handle the situations at Camp Butler. These are the same people that banned alcohol in response to sexual assault by servicemember on a civilian.

I hope it's similar overreactions to that.

My husband is also a Marine. I don't think you can draw comparisons between what you mentioned and this situation though. Not even remotely similar.

 

[HuskieJohn]

DLP watch...19 new cases in France today.

The article did not say what town/region where those 19 cases were located

 

[Searc]

So, some more information from my husband who is stationed overseas in Okinawa right now.

First of all, he says the situation in Japan is BAD. Like, worse than they are admitting freely. He gets a lot of intelligence that we are not privvy to here, as the military has a strong base presence in mainland Japan. Yesterday, he said "stuff is about to get crazy over here."

So, US Forces Japan has issued new guidance to ALL military members stationed in Japan/Okinawa:

They are not permitted to shake hands or make physical contact with co workers or members of the general public at this point (outside of immediate family).

They may soon begin checking temperatures at the base entry gates, for everyone trying to access base (this is already being done at US military bases in Korea)

Okinawa schools are closing early for spring break. They have closed immediately, and for a period of 3 weeks (their spring break was supposed to be in 2 weeks from now, but they are closing early). DOD Schools on base will likely follow suit and close as well.

It is possible that those servicemembers who were approved for leave that takes them off island will be revoked for a period of time. In addition, off base liberty may be revoked in the short term.

Just wanted to pass along the measures being taken by our government, on behalf of servicemembers in the Pacific region. This is a good indicator of what may eventually come to pass here stateside, if this virus begins to pop up around the country.

He was scheduled to attend a 2 week training in Korea beginning next week. That has, thankfully, been cancelled altogether. He is supposed to come home in a month for our kid's spring break week, but that is an uncertainty at this point, unfortunately.

He told me last night that we should cancel our Tokyo Disneyland trip for late May. He has no confidence in Japan's ability to get this situation under control by then.

There is no comparison between a military base on an island and the entire continental US.

 

[Farro]

So, some more information from my husband who is stationed overseas in Okinawa right now.

First of all, he says the situation in Japan is BAD. Like, worse than they are admitting freely. He gets a lot of intelligence that we are not privvy to here, as the military has a strong base presence in mainland Japan. Yesterday, he said "stuff is about to get crazy over here."

So, US Forces Japan has issued new guidance to ALL military members stationed in Japan/Okinawa:

They are not permitted to shake hands or make physical contact with co workers or members of the general public at this point (outside of immediate family).

They may soon begin checking temperatures at the base entry gates, for everyone trying to access base (this is already being done at US military bases in Korea)

Okinawa schools are closing early for spring break. They have closed immediately, and for a period of 3 weeks (their spring break was supposed to be in 2 weeks from now, but they are closing early). DOD Schools on base will likely follow suit and close as well.

It is possible that those servicemembers who were approved for leave that takes them off island will be revoked for a period of time. In addition, off base liberty may be revoked in the short term.

Just wanted to pass along the measures being taken by our government, on behalf of servicemembers in the Pacific region. This is a good indicator of what may eventually come to pass here stateside, if this virus begins to pop up around the country.

He was scheduled to attend a 2 week training in Korea beginning next week. That has, thankfully, been cancelled altogether. He is supposed to come home in a month for our kid's spring break week, but that is an uncertainty at this point, unfortunately.

He told me last night that we should cancel our Tokyo Disneyland trip for late May. He has no confidence in Japan's ability to get this situation under control by then.

What does your husband do? How does he know what the Japanese Government is planning? Just asking as my boyfriend is also a Marine who was stationed in Okinawa.

 

[QueenElinor]

I have just finished watching the press conference for the Lombardy Region and the situation it's not good. They called in all the directors of the main hospitals so to give a scientific prospective to the whole thing and report on the current hospital situation. They all emphatically said that this is not a common flu. They said that until now it looks like one person can pass it to 2.5 people and that the virus has been going around Italy since January. They currently have 235 in hospital and 85 in intensive therapy. Some hospitals like the Sacco have finished their spots and are creating new ones. They say the patients deteriorate very quickly.

Wow, so sorry! That means that patient zero got there before the travel ban went into effect. Italy is one of the few other countries who banned travelers from China from entering the country. Really bad luck.

I looked up those stats, and currently only 46% of cases are at home. This is quite a bit different from the 80% mild figure we see tossed around. I've been thinking from the start that the media misinterpreted what the Chinese were calling "mild".

 

[travelgirl77]

I don't know about that. I mean how many people report that they have the flu? It could very well be that a huge percentage of people are infected but have absolutely no idea because it is not enough to go get checked out. Besides, it is next to impossible to get any fair reading trying to use these numbers in real time. Only time will tell.

 

[DLgal]

What does your husband do? How does he know what the Japanese Government is planning? Just asking as my boyfriend is also a Marine who was stationed in Okinawa.

I can't really say. It's an intelligence based job. He can't really discuss details with me because I don't have clearance. He is a senior level officer at this point in his career. But he is absolutely NOT an alarmist type (he has experienced and seen a LOT of horrors, so he has some perspective) and when he says something like "I don't trust that the Japanese government will get this under control by late May, so cancel your once in a lifetime trip out here," I listen to him.

 

[anthony2k7]

DLP watch...19 new cases in France today.

The article did not say what town/region where those 19 cases were located

They only have 57 cases in total so 19 new in one day is a massive jump. The heath minister there says the virus is now circulating with France.

 

[DLgal]

There is no comparison between a military base on an island and the entire continental US.

The department of defense is very much concerned with the health and well being of their servicemembers. If this situation blows up here stateside, you can absolutely expect similar policies and procedures put into place on bases here too. Having an outbreak on a base or several bases can have a devastating effect on our defense readiness.

 

[QueenElinor]

I don't know about that. I mean how many people report that they have the flu? It could very well be that a huge percentage of people are infected but have absolutely no idea because it is not enough to go get checked out. Besides, it is next to impossible to get any fair reading trying to use these numbers in real time. Only time will tell.

No, they are doing contact tracing in Italy. That means they are tracking down and testing people, symptomatic or not. https://www.njmmanews.com/how-coronavirus-contact-tracing-works-in-italy/

Italy is a developed nation. They're not just waiting for sick people to show up, they're actively going out and finding anyone who might have this illness, people who've been in contact with known cases. That's the only way you can hope to shut down an outbreak in its early stages.

 

[travelgirl77]

The department of defense is very much concerned with the health and well being of their servicemembers. If this situation blows up here stateside, you can absolutely expect similar policies and procedures put into place on bases here too. Having an outbreak on a base or several bases can have a devastating effect on our defense readiness.

I think the person was stating that there is a difference between the reaction regarding a military installation on an island and the ENTIRE U.S., not just military installations in the U.S. It is not an apple to apple comparison at this juncture.

 

[anthony2k7]

WDW has like 50,000 employees. They won't close if CM's start testing positive. They'll replace them with more CM's while they are in quarantine.

If they test positive then it's probably too late. People are apparently contagious sometimes before they test positive and that's assuming they get tested quickly. With test kits in short supply testing people at all may soon be a problem.

 

[Farro]

No, they are doing contact tracing in Italy. That means they are tracking down and testing people, asymptomatic or not. https://www.njmmanews.com/how-coronavirus-contact-tracing-works-in-italy/

Italy is a developed nation. They're not just waiting for sick people to show up, they're actively going out and finding anyone who might have this illness. That's the only way you can hope to shut down an outbreak in its early stages.

Italian Government has it's...issues... Wouldn't put a whole lot of stock in anything that comes out of their mouths.

 

[travelgirl77]

No, they are doing contact tracing in Italy. That means they are tracking down and testing people, symptomatic or not. https://www.njmmanews.com/how-coronavirus-contact-tracing-works-in-italy/

Italy is a developed nation. They're not just waiting for sick people to show up, they're actively going out and finding anyone who might have this illness. That's the only way you can hope to shut down an outbreak in its early stages.

I am not downplaying Italy's response but there is absolutely 100% no way that they would be able to trace all contact. How the heck are you going to get the name and address of the lady you passed in the market when you picked up some bread? All I am trying to say is that I guarantee a lot more people have the virus than is being reported. I am sure they are doing their best to track down contacts, but it is next to impossible which is why the numbers are likely to fluctuate considerably.

 

[anthony2k7]

No, they are doing contact tracing in Italy. That means they are tracking down and testing people, symptomatic or not. https://www.njmmanews.com/how-coronavirus-contact-tracing-works-in-italy/

Italy is a developed nation. They're not just waiting for sick people to show up, they're actively going out and finding anyone who might have this illness. That's the only way you can hope to shut down an outbreak in its early stages.

That's only possible whilst the numbers are low. Once you get high double digit new cases per day I imaging tracing them all get difficult

 

[Searc]

I think the person was stating that there is a difference between the reaction regarding a military installation on an island and the ENTIRE U.S., not just military installations in the U.S. It is not an apple to apple comparison at this juncture.

You are correct. What is done on military bases is irrelevant as it doesn't apply to the general population and none of those same measures would ever be applied outside military bases.

 

[DLgal]

I think the person was stating that there is a difference between the reaction regarding a military installation on an island and the ENTIRE U.S., not just military installations in the U.S. It is not an apple to apple comparison at this juncture.

But that was the comparison I was making. I didn't say the entire US. I was referring to the military response here.