Asia Disney Parks closed due to Coronavirus (SHDL, HKDL, TDL)

[anthony2k7]

With the spike in numbers in France today, there is a good chance Disney Paris will close this week.

Breaking news on sky news says "France bans all gatherings of more than 5,000 people"


Not clear on what this means for Disney Paris, perhaps they can avoid the ban by cancelling parades and fireworks for now?

 

[DrunkJam]

Breaking news on sky news says "France bans all gatherings of more than 5,000 people"


Not clear on what this means for Disney Paris, perhaps they can avoid the ban by cancelling parades and fireworks for now?

Important to note "France bans all gatherings of more than 5000 people IN A CONFINED SPACE." So far this means concerts and sporting events.

 

[Brianstl]

Important to note "France bans all gatherings of more than 5000 people IN A CONFINED SPACE." So far this means concerts and sporting events.

I wonder what this means for the parade.

 

[SirDuff]

I wonder what this means for the parade.

Is the parade indoors at DLP? Otherwise, it is not affected by the new rule. Though the Paris Marathon (clearly not indoors has been cancelled).

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51690657

 

[TwoMisfits]

Updated info...new week's info included...

Age, Sex, Existing Conditions of COVID-19 Cases and Deaths
Last updated: February 29, 4:40 GMT
There are two sources that provide age, sex, and comorbidity statistics:

• 
  
• The Report of the WHO-China Joint Mission published on Feb. 28 by WHO, [2] which is based on 55,924 laboratory confirmed cases. The report notes that "The Joint Mission acknowledges the known challenges and biases of reporting crude CFR early in an epidemic" (see also our discussion on: How to calculate the mortality rate during an outbreak)
• A paper by the Chinese CCDC released on Feb. 17, which is based on 72,314 confirmed, suspected, and asymptomatic cases of COVID-19 in China as of Feb. 11, and was published in the Chinese Journal of Epidemiology [1]

We will list data from both, labeling them as "confirmed cases" and "all cases" respectively in the tables.

Age of Coronavirus Deaths
COVID-19 Fatality Rate by AGE:
*Death Rate = (number of deaths / number of cases) = probability of dying if infected by the virus (%). This probability differs depending on the age group. The percentage shown below does NOT represent in any way the share of deaths by age group. Rather, it represents, for a person in a given age group, the risk of dying if infected with COVID-19.

AGE​	DEATH RATE confirmed cases	DEATH RATE all cases
80+ years old​	21.9%​	14.8%​
70-79 years old​	​	8.0%​
60-69 years old​	​	3.6%​
50-59 years old​	​	1.3%​
40-49 years old​	​	0.4%​
30-39 years old​	​	0.2%​
20-29 years old​	​	0.2%​
10-19 years old​	​	0.2%​
0-9 years old	​	no fatalities​

*Death Rate = (number of deaths / number of cases) = probability of dying if infected by the virus (%).

In general, relatively few cases are seen among children.

Sex ratio
COVID-19 Fatality Rate by SEX:
*Death Rate = (number of deaths / number of cases) = probability of dying if infected by the virus (%). This probability differs depending on sex. When reading these numbers, it must be taken into account that smoking in China is much more prevalent among males. Smoking increases the risks of respiratory complications.

SEX​	DEATH RATE confirmed cases	DEATH RATE all cases
Male​	4.7%​	2.8%​
Female​	2.8%​	1.7%​

*Death Rate = (number of deaths / number of cases) = probability of dying if infected by the virus (%).

Pre-existing medical conditions (comorbidities)
Patients who reported no pre-existing ("comorbid") medical conditions had a case fatality rate of 0.9%. Pre-existing illnesses that put patients at higher risk of dying from a COVID-19 infection are:

COVID-19 Fatality Rate by COMORBIDITY:
*Death Rate = (number of deaths / number of cases) = probability of dying if infected by the virus (%). This probability differs depending on pre-existing condition. The percentage shown below does NOT represent in any way the share of deaths by pre-existing condition. Rather, it represents, for a patient with a given pre-existing condition, the risk of dying if infected by COVID-19.

PRE-EXISTING CONDITION​	DEATH RATE confirmed cases	DEATH RATE all cases
Cardiovascular disease​	13.2%​	10.5%​
Diabetes​	9.2%​	7.3%​
Chronic respiratory disease​	8.0%​	6.3%​
Hypertension​	8.4%​	6.0%​
Cancer​	7.6%​	5.6%​
no pre-existing conditions​	​	0.9%​

*Death Rate = (number of deaths / number of cases) = probability of dying if infected by the virus (%).

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/

 

[Brianstl]

Is the parade indoors at DLP? Otherwise, it is not affected by the new rule. Though the Paris Marathon (clearly not indoors has been cancelled).

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51690657

The Paris Marathon is what made me wonder about the parade. It is very similar when it comes to how spectators view the event.

 

[Germack]

I am getting really worried now. We booked a DisneyWorld package (Room+Tickets for 5 days) for 07MAR and a room only for 08MAR - 13MAR. I believe the room only reservation can be cancelled without penalty. The penalty for the package will be $200? Can anyone confirm?

 

[rteetz]

I am getting really worried now. We booked a DisneyWorld package (Room+Tickets for 5 days) for 07MAR and a room only for 08MAR - 13MAR. I believe the room only reservation can be cancelled without penalty. The penalty for the package will be $200? Can anyone confirm?

I would be shocked if the parks were to close that quickly. I think it is going to take a much larger outbreak here to do so.

 

[Mome Rath]

I am getting really worried now. We booked a DisneyWorld package (Room+Tickets for 5 days) for 07MAR and a room only for 08MAR - 13MAR. I believe the room only reservation can be cancelled without penalty. The penalty for the package will be $200? Can anyone confirm?

Room only you have 5 (6 if it was all online) days before your trip to cancel, if not, it's one night's room rate that is non-refundable. Also, I would add if they do close the resort I would imagine there wouldn't be a penalty, but I doubt they'd close it by your trip.

And, I also believe I have read if you book a new vacation for later when you call to cancel your current booking and apply the deposit from the canceled room directly to that, there isn't a penalty, maybe someone can confirm that.

 

[Brianstl]

I would be shocked if the parks were to close that quickly. I think it is going to take a much larger outbreak here to do so.

If the parks would have to close that soon we will all have bigger issues to worry about than getting a refund.

 

[DisneyGirlMI]

I would be shocked if the parks were to close that quickly. I think it is going to take a much larger outbreak here to do so.

I agree. I think they will get more aggressive with protections (like buffets won’t be self serve), perhaps instituting hand washing at restaurants (like the cruise does). But I also think that it’s going to take a lot more than a few hundred (or even a few thousand) confirmed cases to shut things like the parks down. This kind of extreme response will cause a major economic effect for businesses and thereby families as well. They will do what they can to put this off as long as possible. They may discourage travel or isolate specific areas, but I don’t see them shuttering venues/events/etc in FL if the confirmed cases are on the west coast.

 

[QueenElinor]

I agree. I think they will get more aggressive with protections (like buffets won’t be self serve), perhaps instituting hand washing at restaurants (like the cruise does). But I also think that it’s going to take a lot more than a few hundred (or even a few thousand) confirmed cases to shut things like the parks down. This kind of extreme response will cause a major economic effect for businesses and thereby families as well. They will do what they can to put this off as long as possible. They may discourage travel or isolate specific areas, but I don’t see them shuttering venues/events/etc in FL if the confirmed cases are on the west coast.

I agree. And I think we sometimes forget how really big the US actually is. King County Washington is as far from Florida as Iran is from Paris.

I know we're all very interconnected but there are a lot of Americans out there, and a lot of space, between destinations. A pretty big buffer zone.

 

[afan]

I agree. And I think we sometimes forget how really big the US actually is. King County Washington is as far from Florida as Iran is from Paris.

I know we're all very interconnected but there are a lot of Americans out there, and a lot of space, between destinations. A pretty big buffer zone.

While that's true I also know there's at least one daily non stop flight from Seattle to MCO if not two just on Alaska. Delta sometimes has them as well. Plenty of us fly there so while it's far it's really not that far. However I live in the south part of the county from where this is going on and am not worried. What I am worried about is the first responders that are now in quarantine after being called to the living facility with 2 cases that they didn't know they would encounter. Worried because if response doesn't change we could end up with a lot of quarantined first responders, which is also why I would hope/imagine that policies about it all have already changed. But it made me realize that it may not just be that we can't travel or go to things but have less people to respond to emergencies.

 

[DISnewjersey]

Are a lot of people canceling WDW trips? Seems like there are more Disney hotels available Easter weekend - and at a cheaper price - compared to a few weeks ago.

 

[1911]

I read that Florida is not releasing numbers or much info on how many people are being tested/watched for the virus out fear it will hurt the tourist trade. Is there any facts to back this up? or is this just internet BS?

 

[Thecouch]

The big thing is how many test kits. I heard other day califorina only had 200 test kits and people showing obvious signs were getting knocked back for test

 

[QueenElinor]

The big thing is how many test kits. I heard other day califorina only had 200 test kits and people showing obvious signs were getting knocked back for test

There are now plenty, as local labs can start testing.

 

[xuxa777]

I would be shocked if the parks were to close that quickly. I think it is going to take a much larger outbreak here to do so.

If it keeps trending like it has, WDW closing by the middle of this month is not that far of a reach at all. France only had 15 cases 4 days ago. Now they are at 100 and are talking about closing DIsneyland Paris this week. US already has 71

There are now plenty, as local labs can start testing.

And this is going to increase the positive cases even faster.

 

[Mome Rath]

It depends on where the clusters are in the US. We have vast distances in this country.

 

[briggscreek]

The big thing is how many test kits. I heard other day califorina only had 200 test kits and people showing obvious signs were getting knocked back for test

I just don't understand this. South Korea has been testing thousands of people, you can get a drive thru test there for free LOL. And we couldn't even make test kits that work?