As Christians, Any WDW attractions to AVOID?

[JulieWent]

Despite being a Jew (gasp) and a lesbian (gasp) and one who accepts evolution as fact (gasp), and therefore precisely the sort of influence the OP would probably wish to shield her children from, I was going to suggest that she try to see WDW the way Jesus would in order to ease her fear and aversion, i.e. with merciful love and acceptance and joy. But then I pictured JC whirling around on Dumbo, kind of blissed out and waving with his hair flowing behind him, and realized that he would probably never visit WDW in the first place unless it was to minister to others. I therefore suggest that she either go elsewhere or come and be open to everything, or perhaps come to help others in some capacity.

In the end this post sounds more LSD-inspired than sage, so I leave it here as a humble and hopefully humorous if mildly offensive musing.

Thanks for the very hearty laugh!
Julie

 

[TigrLvsPooh]

How and when was the OPer being disrespectful?

I feel it was disrespectful right from the title. "As Christians, Any WDW attractions to AVOID?". Many people, myself included, consider themselves to be Christian but don't share the same views as the OP. I think it's direspectful to other forms of Christianity, rather it be Catholic, Baptist, Luthern, Methodist, etc, etc, to somehow make us exempt from this thread because we don't fall into the category she has requested replies from. The title said Christian so my Christian beliefs should be of equal importance to any other Christian who responds. Maybe she should have changed her thread title to "As Christians who believe the exact same way as I do, Any WDW attractions to AVOID?". That would have avoided any mix up.

 

[hannahouse]

I'm just guessing, but perhaps when the OPer came back a second time to say she only wanted to hear from fundamentalist Christians, and that all the rest of us should keep our suggestions to ourselves, just perhaps some felt this was disrespectful.

Yes, one might infer she thinks fundamentalist are the only "real" Christians. It certainly sounds like she thinks they have a lock on morality. I'm not suprised at the reaction here.

 

[ophie]

1 - Night of Joy isn't Christmas-themed but it is a Christian celebration.
2 - The holidays at Disney are not presented solely from a Christian perspective. Just in Epcot there are Kwanzaa storytellers, the Chinese Monkey King, the Japanese dollmaker, the Muslim storyteller, the Norweigian Gnome, etc. Also, the Italy Storyteller is a Christmas witch who talks about flying on her broomstick in search of Baby Jesus.

Disney is an all-inclusive kind of place.

 

[MemoryMakers2669]

I'm just guessing, but perhaps when the OPer came back a second time to say she only wanted to hear from fundamentalist Christians, and that all the rest of us should keep our suggestions to ourselves, just perhaps some felt this was disrespectful.

Here is what I found....I'll try to rephrase my original question: I am most interested in YOUR personal experiences as Born Again/Evangelical/Fundamental Christians. Tell me something YOU wouldn't do again and why. PM's are welcome.

Where does she say "all the rest of us should keep our suggestions to ourselves"? Or was that another post that I can't find anywhere?

I see this as no different than a woman asking a question that really only woman can answer from a womans point of view. Or for a parent of a 4 year old to ask other parents of 4 year olds (or ones that have gone to Disney with one), their opinions. She is asking for Christian points of view. Again, seems pretty simple to me! I really don't see why this is so disrespectful?

 

[jimmiej]

My family & I are all born-again Christians. We belong to a fundamentalist Southern Baptist Church. I am an ordained deacon & DW is on staff at our church as office manager. Two of the ministers at our church go to WDW on a regular basis & one of them is a DVC owner. Having said that, I will say we are addicted to WDW! In all our trips, we've never been offended by anything we've experienced. It's just entertainment. I know what I believe. Nothing at WDW is going to change my mind. And yes, although my children are older now, they were young when we first went.

 

[MemoryMakers2669]

I think it has something to do with the movie before you get in the Hydrolators dealing with the creation of the sea.

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Oh, you mean that little movie or whatever that we always skip? LOL! We have never sat through that.

 

[MrsJ Henry]

My sincere thanks to those of you who are respectfully posting your opinions.

There have been a few comments that are especially appreciated:

AtlantaSue- I had been debating about POTC, this is exactly the info I was looking for. Thanks for sharing. I'll take it into consideration.

Gymbomom- Of the list you made, are there any attractions that your Mom wouldn't do again? Or has avoided altogether? You mention the Dragon in Norway...that's something I didn't know and exactly what kind of info I'm looking for.


Again, thank you everyone for taking the time to respectfully post your opinions and suggestions.

I'll try to rephrase my original question: I am most interested in YOUR personal experiences as Born Again/Evangelical/Fundamental Christians. Tell me something YOU wouldn't do again and why. PM's are welcome.


Joy

This was her post that some people seem to have a problem with. I still don't see how she was not respectful.

 

[herprettiness]

We are Lutherans and it takes a lot to sway our faith. But the most immediate thought I had was that some of the evil actions of people outweight the thoughts and ideas on some of the rides. I think these are the most difficult to explain. It's not an overall problem. But daily it seems like something will happen that you need to talk to you children about. Like Horrible Nasty Language that is used, or Families yelling at each other, Sometimes even physical abuse. No matter what you encounter, it's not any different from what is outside of the park gates. Jus remember that Faith Quakes.

 

[andrabell]

Quick question for the OP...
Do you celebrate Halloween and take your children trick or treating?

Thanks.

 

[Bracho]

I actually feel bad for the OP. She came on here asking questions, which is what this board is all about. She is new to The Disboards also.
I still don't understand why some people are making fun and not being respectful. This is just breaking my heart.
I don't have some of the same beliefs as the OP but I would stand behind her right to have them!!
I have gone to look at some of her other posts and she has always been friendly and respectful on here. I think she deserves the same from others.

If people can not answer her question why are they posting? Maybe someone can help me with this, I don't know. .....

I can help you with that. Because she asked what people thought about Disney, maybe people on the DIS have a different way of writing, maybe they see respect differently then the OP or you do, Maybe they are not being disrespectful at all, maybe they are just posting a comment. I have found nothing in this thread that would be considered rude or out of line, she asked a question and everyone has been adding their 2 cents as is their "GOD GIVEN" right..isn't it???

Just because folks on the DIS have a different way of writing, posting, or thinking doesn't make it disrepspectful, it's life ... and not everyone lives their life according to how the other person does.

Disney charges money to park, they charge you money at the gate, they charges money for your lunch, they charge you money for that cool drink in the middle of the hot Florida day, they charge you money for the snack that you really didn't want but you always have when you go, they charge you money for that t-shirt that reads "My grandmother went to Walt DisneyWorld and all I got was this t-shirt"... the bottom line is... they charge... it has nothing to do with your beliefs, or how you see something. This wonderful planet we live on has so many different belief systems and ways of looking at things there is no way Disney could get in the middle of things like that.

As far as the OP goes, Disney is about fantasy. Teaching children the difference between right and wrong and what is real and not is what it's all about and from what I was taught, there is no such a thing as talking fish, wizards, gobblins, broom riding witches, wooden boys, fairy godmothers, talking rabbits, flying elephants or a talking mouse named MICKEY... it's FANTASY!! nothing more.

And MemoryMakers2669... not every Christian sees things the same way either and don't ever think the DIS board has any restrictions for posters when it comes to their beliefs... as long as people don't get carried away or out and out rude, they are free to post. If the OP or anyone else has a problem with that then there are other boards that are more restrictive.

I'm sorry for the rant.. but sometimes this kinda stuff just get me so.... well you know. People who don't see things as others are called disrespectful or doesn't have an understanding of the question asked. We understand.. believe me I for one will post my comments even if I don't believe what you do. I have a love for the subjects on this board, if you don't want other peoples views... then don't ask the question!

 

[TigrLvsPooh]

She is asking for Christian points of view. Again, seems pretty simple to me! I really don't see why this is so disrespectful?

Because Catholics, Baptists, Episcopalians, Lutherans, Methodist, and Presbyterians, etc., etc., etc., are all Christians too! And for anyone to imply otherwise is disrespectful. What is so hard to understand about that???

 

[MemoryMakers2669]

I feel it was disrespectful right from the title. "As Christians, Any WDW attractions to AVOID?". Many people, myself included, consider themselves to be Christian but don't share the same views as the OP. I think it's direspectful to other forms of Christianity, rather it be Catholic, Baptist, Luthern, Methodist, etc, etc, to somehow make us exempt from this thread because we don't fall into the category she has requested replies from. The title said Christian so my Christian beliefs should be of equal importance to any other Christian who responds. Maybe she should have changed her thread title to "As Christians who believe the exact same way as I do, Any WDW attractions to AVOID?". That would have avoided any mix up.

Ahh, this makes more sense. I really still don't see what the problem is though. Again, back to my little woman looking for womens points of view. At first all woman jump in, but then I add woman that are mothers, then add woman that are mothers of boys only, then add woman that are mothers of boys only that are over the age of 10. I am disrespecting woman without kids, mothers of girls and those with kids under 10 later in the thread after I have gotten some answers and then am trying to narrow it done a bit more??

Sorry, very confused here as to why so many threads have to come with so much hostility and sarcasm. Life is just too short and precious to spend anytime worrying about being offended over such trivial things.

 

[jimmiej]

Because Catholics, Baptists, Episcopalians, Lutherans, Methodist, and Presbyterians, etc., etc., etc., are all Christians too! And for anyone to imply otherwise is disrespectful. What is so hard to understand about that???

But not all those denominations would fit into the categories the OP stated. Or am I wrong about that?

Born Again/Evangelical/Fundamental Christians

 

[hannahouse]

Because Catholics, Baptists, Episcopalians, Lutherans, Methodist, and Presbyterians, etc., etc., etc., are all Christians too! And for anyone to imply otherwise is disrespectful. What is so hard to understand about that???

Yes, it is very disrespectful.
Kim
Orthodox Christian

 

[MemoryMakers2669]

Because Catholics, Baptists, Episcopalians, Lutherans, Methodist, and Presbyterians, etc., etc., etc., are all Christians too! And for anyone to imply otherwise is disrespectful. What is so hard to understand about that???

When did she say this though, that is what I am asking? She was just stating the type of Christian she was and asked for those types of opinions. Again, maybe I am missing the posts that are bashing your Christian beliefs!

 

[MemoryMakers2669]

This was her post that some people seem to have a problem with. I still don't see how she was not respectful.

Me either!

 

[hannahouse]

type of Christian

I think you hit the nail on the head!

 

[MemoryMakers2669]

""Because Catholics, Baptists, Episcopalians, Lutherans, Methodist, and Presbyterians, etc., etc., etc., are all Christians too! And for anyone to imply otherwise is disrespectful. What is so hard to understand about that???


Yes, it is very disrespectful.""

YES, this is disrespectful...but WHERE did the OP say this? She has never said that she feels this way, has she?

 

[ophie]

I think you guys are passing each other in mid-air with this respect discussion. Honestly, you're both right. OP was asking for the opinions of those with whom she most closely identifies. That's her choice, of course, and it's her best way of getting information that she's likely to find useful (simply because people she identifies with are more likely to give her the information she's looking for). However, asking for the opinions of those people in particular, seems to ignore the rest of us who might also have useful information.

Just seems as though when religion is the topic, people are more likely to read things in a way that offends them. It's really easy to do.