Are men always wrong?

I agree, work on how to make her stop her behavior rather than giving it back to her. Even if things are bothering her, she still shouldn't act that way. Just try to hold your temper and don't let things escalate until you're certain as to how you want to approach the problem.

Good luck.
 
I am going to refer back to the 'steps' previously posted. I think you should talk to her when you are both calm about it and won't be distracted by anything else. You may just have to be the 'adult' in the relationship for awhile. My DH and I frequently (still) take turns being the adult! :teeth:
 
"Are men always wrong?"

No, but it's often easier for a man to take the blame then to put up with an argument.
 
you should go on your trip to disney and relax....you wil come back refreshed and able to take on the world.

i have been married over 25 years and i go to disney/ universal solo.............it drives the hubby nuts as he hates disney.

i stay in orlando for 2 full weeks.........it is well worth the arguments i get from him before i go.




we do trips together but he doesn't understand my love for orlando.
separate vacations once a year keeps us married.........
 

boomhauer said:
Are all my friends right? Is this going to somehow be my fault and am I completely in the wrong no matter what?
Of course.

But I do think that your wife has to take care of her care and should not have yelled on voicemail. This will be a sticky situation and you need to tread lightly.

BTW I handle all car repairs on mine and DH's car.
 
No words spoken at all last night. My wife got home, didn't say one word to me. No apology, no remorse - Nothing.

The longer this goes, the further I feel myself pulling away from this. I just keep asking myself, "Is this the way I want to live the rest of my life?" :confused3
 
You're not likely to get an apology. You're just going to have to figure out a way to deal with this or not.

Sorry that this is so difficult.
 
Yet, if it were me, it would be expected that I MUST apologize.

Not sure if this is a man-woman thing or not, but I just can't seem to move past this one this time.
 
boomhauer said:
Yet, if it were me, it would be expected that I MUST apologize.

Not sure if this is a man-woman thing or not, but I just can't seem to move past this one this time.

No, no, no--it is NOT a man-woman thing. Please stop thinking that way. We (women) are not all petulant brats.

You've gotten so much good advice on this thread. It sounds like you are getting in a good frame of mind to deal with this. As others have said, try to refrain from resorting to the same type of behavior that your wife does. Be the adult, be objective, and be consistent in your responses to her. But I do like that you're not being a doormat here. As much as your wife might yell and abuse you, no one likes a spineless man and it will get worse if you continue to cave to her.
 
I just can't believe the thoughts that are going through my mind right now. I love my wife more than anything else in the world, yet right now, I am SERIOUSLY questioning our marriage.

I mean, what does it say about her or her feelings about our relationship, if all she has to do is sincerely apologize to make me feel better, and she won't do it?

Am I completely overreacting here?
 
boomhauer said:
Well, I just talked to my wife who's still at work. She told her mother not to let my step-son come downstairs with me when I got home. Nice.

In any event, I told her what bothered me wasn't her flipping out on me, but her nasty email. Then she says, I just misunderstood it. So I told her as my wife, that she didn't think that would hurt me. She admitted that's why she did it. All I'm looking for is an apology. I kept telling her that too. She knows she's wrong, and was admitting it, but with no remorse or empathy whatsoever. For 10 minutes, I keep telling her, this is exactly what's upsetting me. Her only response: "I don't know what you want me to say", in the most sneary, talking down type way you can imagine.

She absolutely REFUSES to apologize and feel bad about what she said. Good god, if this were me, I'd be a dead man.

Thank you all for your replies. I'll say this. I don't know exactly how this is going to end up. But all of this has made me feel no guilt whatsoever about going to Disney in February by myself. I have a lot of thinking to do. I feel completely disrespected, insulted, and humiliated right now. This is not the way I want to live MY life.
thats pretty sad about the step son using him as a weapon cuz shes mad at you
my sis does that with her son and its sad he not that little anymore and not stupid kids see what there parents do and end up getting mad at there parents
good luck you need it
 
boomhauer said:
I just can't believe the thoughts that are going through my mind right now. I love my wife more than anything else in the world, yet right now, I am SERIOUSLY questioning our marriage.

I mean, what does it say about her or her feelings about our relationship, if all she has to do is sincerely apologize to make me feel better, and she won't do it?

Am I completely overreacting here?

Dump her. It's over. :)
 
Bob Slydell said:
Dump her. It's over. :)

Not that easy. Divorces are quite expensive. Luckily, if it comes to that, we have no assetts, and don't own a home.

Of course, I'll be paying alimony for the rest of my life.
 
boomhauer said:
Not that easy. Divorces are quite expensive. Luckily, if it comes to that, we have no assetts, and don't own a home.

Of course, I'll be paying alimony for the rest of my life.

Well, then you're back to my original thoughts -- you're screwed, get used to it.

You've tried reasoning with her -- it didn't work.
You've tried talking to her -- it didn't work.
You've tried therapy -- it didn't work.

Seems to me you're out of options, at least according to what you've written here. So it's either over or you're going to live with your life as it stands now. :)
 
Anyone know anything about divorce?

Does the guy ALWAYS pay alimony? Is there ever such a thing as a split, severed ties alltogether?
 
Depending where you live I seriously doubt you'll be paying alimony forever on a 6month marriage.

I've been your wife. I said that before. So I know a little about what's going on through her head. She isn't going to apoligize. It isn't about that for her. It's not that she's simply a brat. It is definatly a control thing.

You never mention her father and we know her mom lives upstairs from you. I'm guessing her father is absent or deceased and In either case I'd bet they didn't have a good relationship. Or they had an amazing relationship that was lost if/when he died. What about past boyfriends/husbands. Did they abuse her physically? Mentally? How's her self esteem? Does she want to seem like she always has it together but certain small normal tasks seem to shut her down? Does she fly off the handle over strange things but remain calm during situations where she really should be freaking out?

10 years. 10 years on and off of therpy and guess what I still leave crazy voice mails now and then.

You seem quick to believe people when they say she's just a brat to needs to apoligize but how about a scared damaged person who deep down is so terrified that she'll be hurt and left again that she sabotages herself and her relationships. She's going hurt others and distance herself before they get the chance to hurt her.

And I'd be willing to guess she has no idea that she's doing it and certainly won't admit it, which is why she didn't like the therapist after 2 sessions.
 
I doubt you will be paying alimony. Alimony is usually awarded after a long-term marriage in which one spouse did not work and the other spouse was able to make great financial gains from it. It's the scenario where the mom stays home with the kids for 18 years, never works, while the husband is working and is the main breadwinner. Then the marriage ends and the wife has no work experience, no assets, no money.

In your case, your wife works (and probably always has) and you work. It would probably be a 50/50 split. Having kids involved usually creates a longer divorce (the separation times are longer), but since the child here is your stepson and you have not legally adopted him, this may not apply.

RadioNate--I just wanted to say that I think your insight into this is 'right on.' I am one of the people calling her a spoiled brat and petulant. Obviously, I know it is not a simple as that and there are huge issues here. Just too much to get into on a message board.

Boomhauer--I think you should give though to what RadioNate says about your wife's background. I know that I gave you some examples of my boss who has a wife very much like yours. She did grow up without a father and had a mother who constantly manipulated her and her sister against each other. I don't think my boss' wife can ever trust anyone. Of course, she also refuses ANY kind of counselling. There's nothing wrong with her--it's everyone else.
 
BTW - My MIL fixed the hood on my wife's car. Took her about 30 seconds this morning.

Glad to see all this was so necessary.
 
Boombaur,

First, I want to say that, as long as you have no children, and your wife is young and healthy, I would not think that she could be awarded alimony. And, you have no child, so child support is not possible either.

I really feel for you!

While I see what RadioNate is saying! Much of it could possibly be true. Did you post that your wife would frequently respond with something to the effect of, "So, what, do you want a divorce...." That is major! that is definate sabatage.

However, I am not so sure that this means that you should doom yourself to a life of this kind of unhappiness.

I am sure that your wife has issues. And, I see some immaturity on both sides. However, I think that you have the right to demand that your wife acknowledge her pattern of inappropriate behavior, and to confront her issues. If she does not do this, then things will never improve!!! And, very obviously, she is not going to simply do this all on he own. She is going to live downstairs from Dear Mommie, and continue to treat you, and others this way, for years to come.

You must recognize how your own behavior, attitudes, and issues, are feeding the whole situation. It sounds like a lot of immaturity and co-related issues going on. Like the independance-vs-clinginess. Like the fact that she expects you to be more like an adult-parent-caregiver than a husband in a healthy and equal relationship. Like the fact that you both seem to be more like bickering children.

How you respond to this type of thing is very very important!!!

I know that you are hung up on the apology thing. But, really, you need to get past that, and look forward. Harder said than done, I know!!! But, I am thinking that how you responded to your wifes behavior really made it far less likely that you would ever receive an apology. If you did shoot back an equally immature and hurtful email. Then, apology, forget it. You effectively insured that "Game On".

Also, looking for an apology is looking backwards. What you should do is to back off on these petty arguments. And, just let her dig herself into her own hole. If she says, "Now I will have to just return all of your Christmas presents..." Just give her words right back to her, as in "Do whatever you need to do..." Make her take 'ownership' of her own behavior. Do not provide a negative and immature retort.

I would give up looking for the apology, and I would be looking for her to take steps to address her issues, and your issues as a married couple. That is the ONLY thing that will really make any difference.

PS: I easily apologize... But for some people, my DH for one, that is just not in their constitution. For some, the three little words "I am sorry" are harder than than the three words "I love you'. :confused3

You don't want to be strung along, spinelessly, by apologies. You want the situation to improve. ASAP.

I think that you are correct in questioning your marriage. It is possible that this will continue, and even get worse. And, next thing you know, you will have matters complicated by a child of your own. Now is the time to do some real soul searching and to take action.

From what you have posted, you will either have to muster some strength and maturity to bring about some real and positive change. Or, nothing will change.
 
It does sound like she has some deep emotional problems, but if she can’t admit that and won’t get counseling then it’s never going to change. So you might want to think long and hard about the things that make you love her, and decide whether those things outweigh the bad things. I’m sorry but she just doesn’t sound like a nice person and if it were me I’d probably get out. Some men are very tolerant of women like that and even enjoy that kind of behavior it because it makes them feel needed, but it doesn’t seem like you’re that type of man.
 


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