Anyone else watching the stand off in Caledonia?

mousy_in_canada

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I think it is going to get very ugly and I hope it does not turn more violent.
My heart goes out for all involved.
I have not taken a "side" in this I just think it is all very sad.
 
Have been watching all day at work. Looks like another Oka or Ipperwash. Keeping fingers crossed that I am wrong.
 
This is a very sad and difficult situation. :sad2: My DH is a Status Indian with family members on the Six Nations reserve.My heart goes out to all involed and I only wish the Federal government would get involved in this and bring a peaceful end to everything. :) The natives want them to talk....not the Provincial government.

We live on the other side of Caledonia (Simcoe) and I spoke with an OPP officer this morning who had worked in Caledonia yesterday and he thinks as I do that who's really to say what happened 200 years ago? We weren't here and there doesn't seem to be a paper trail leading to anything. He's also very concerned that now others are starting to protest in sympathy, within Canada and there are now "warriors" that are getting involved too which is very frightning. Also the Hell's Angel's were there last night! This is buliding and building and it's so very sad as we don't want to see this turn to bloodshed. The Federal government MUST get involved! :furious:

I'm really pulled in two different directions with this and have sooo many questions for both sides. I hope this ends peacefully and real soon! :sad2:
 
Sammi I am sorry you are caught there in the middle.
I saw on the news that Hells Angels came in had a look around and left again. Thank God they left that would not have been good
It is all so scary and I hope NO ONE gets hurt, either side in this dispute.

Honestly there is no records to prove who holds the actual title to the land. Either the Goverment or the Natives which it just terrible :(
 

mousy_in_canada said:
Honestly there is no records to prove who holds the actual title to the land. Either the Goverment or the Natives which it just terrible :(


Here is a historic timeline of this region from CBC online:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/caledonia-landclaim/historical-timeline.html

INDEPTH: CALEDONIA LAND CLAIM
Historical timeline
CBC News Online | April 21, 2006

Six Nations natives and developer Henco Industries are involved in a land dispute over a 40-hectare tract near Hamilton, Ont. Here is a history of the land in question:

1784:
For its loyalty to the British Crown during the American Revolution, the Six Nations is rewarded with a tract of land. The Province of Upper Canada permits Six Nations to "take possession of and settle" a strip of land nearly 20 kilometres wide along the Grand River, from its source to Lake Erie, totaling about 385,000 hectares.

Henco Industries now says the so-called "Haldimand Grant" (named after the commander of the British forces) was merely a licence to occupy the lands, with legal title remaining with the Crown. Six Nations dispute that claim.

1792:
Lt.-Gov. John Graves Simcoe reduces land grant to the Six Nations to 111,000 hectares.

1796:
Six Nations grants its chief, Joseph Brant, the power of attorney to sell off some of the land and invest the proceeds. The Crown opposes the sales but eventually concedes.

1835:
The Crown approaches Six Nations about developing Plank Road (now Highway 6) and the surrounding area. Six Nations agrees to lease half a mile of land on each side for road, but does not surrender the land. Lt.-Gov. John Colborne agrees to the lease but his successor, Sir Francis Bond Head, does not. After 1845, despite the protests of Six Nations, Plank Road and surrounding lands would be sold to third parties.

1840:
The government recommends that a reserve of 8,000 hectares be established on the south side of the Grand River and the rest sold or leased.

Jan. 18, 1841:
Six Nations council agrees to surrender for sale all lands outside those set aside for a reserve, on the agreement the government would sell the land and invest the money for them. A faction of Six Nations petition against the surrender, saying the chiefs were deceived and intimidated.

Six Nations would challenge that claim in a 1995 lawsuit and it is part of the basis for the current protest.

June 1843:
A petition to the Crown said Six Nations needed a 22,000-hectare reserve and wanted to keep and lease a tier of lots on each side of Plank Road and several other tracts of land in the Haldimand area.

Dec. 18, 1844:
A document signed by 47 Six Nations chiefs appears to authorize sale of land to build Plank Road.

May 15, 1848:
The land where the current development, Douglas Creek Estates, now sits is sold to George Marlot Ryckman for 57 pounds and 10 shillings and a Crown deed is issued to him.

1850:
The Crown passes a proclamation setting out extent of reserve lands, about 19,000 hectares agreed to by the Six Nations chiefs.

1924:
Under the Indian Act, the Canadian government establishes an elected government on the reserve.

1992:
Henco Industries Ltd. purchases a company that owned 40 hectares of what it would later call the Douglas Creek Estates lands.

1995:
The Six Nations sue the federal and provincial governments over the land. The developer calls it "an accounting claim" for "all assets which were not received but ought to have been received, managed or held by the Crown for the benefit of the Six Nations."

July 2005:
The subdivision plan for Douglas Creek Estates is registered with title to the property guaranteed by the province of Ontario.

Feb. 28, 2006:
A group of Six Nations members takes over the housing project, erecting tents, a teepee and a wooden building.

» RELATED: Timeline of recent events

Sources: Canadian Press, Hamilton Spectator, Henco Industries Ltd., Six Nations Lands & Resources
 
The last news was that all levels of the government were still talking with native leaders and the developers in a Burlington hotel and I hope they come to some kind of an agreement very soon so that all those involved can resume their lives. :)
 
I live in Caledonia. Although it was very scary last week, things seem to have calmed down quite a bit. The media is absolutely blowing everything out of proportion here, but I guess they need to sensationalize things. I work in town, and luckily for me, I walk to work, because the traffic is crazy on my street, since the highway is blocked, and people need to come through town now, instead of taking the bi-pass around Caledonia.
I know some local businesses are hurting because of the media saying how things are out of control here, and people aren't shopping as much in town now. Canadian Tire, and even our local grocery store Zehrs are fairly quiet because they're so close to the standoff.
I honestly hope everything is resolved soon, and peacefully, and I truly believe that everything will get back to normal here. We've all coincided so nicely for many years, and I know we'll get back to that again. :thumbsup2
 














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