Any perks at all for resale?

[wdw4rfam]

I think the only resorts currently selling for under $70 / point are HHI or VB. But I could be wrong...

Nope. I bought it just this month- OKW extended. $68/point and LOADED at that. It was the ASKING price too so I didn't even try to go lower. I was shocked when the ROFR was waived.

 

[ldo]

OKW extended. $68/point and LOADED at that

that's your mega perk-LOL!Congrats!

 

[mort1331]

Nope. I bought it just this month- OKW extended. $68/point and LOADED at that. It was the ASKING price too so I didn't even try to go lower. I was shocked when the ROFR was waived.

Congrats and welcome. Great deal.

 

[MichelleB]

We added to some points we already had via resale about 5 yrs ago. We added VB points. I don't like the high dues ($8 per point) but we got it for $35 per point and they gave us a free week (they reserved it with another contract they had) if we'd close 3 months from when it was accepted. We never thought it'd go through but it did. Couldn't beat that! We are flexible where we stay on property & have never had problems using it at the 7 month window or 11 at Vero which we love as well. Even used it this past summer at Aulani for 13 days. We did it before they changed the direct/resale rules but I'd still do it. Direct prices are insane & the benefits aren't enough to offset it.

 

[wdw4rfam]

We added to some points we already had via resale about 5 yrs ago. We added VB points. I don't like the high dues ($8 per point) but we got it for $35 per point and they gave us a free week (they reserved it with another contract they had) if we'd close 3 months from when it was accepted. We never thought it'd go through but it did. Couldn't beat that! We are flexible where we stay on property & have never had problems using it at the 7 month window or 11 at Vero which we love as well. Even used it this past summer at Aulani for 13 days. We did it before they changed the direct/resale rules but I'd still do it. Direct prices are insane & the benefits aren't enough to offset it.

I agree the direct prices are crazy- I can't even justify adding 25 direct for the perks, because I can get 50 resale for that!! We will only go probably 1-2 times per year, so Discounted APs aren't needed. Ive gone through the perks of direct/resale and can't even see using most of them, so it was a no brainer. I just thought I'd ask here to see if there were any, so we wouldn't miss out if there was.

 

[Dean]

I agree the direct prices are crazy- I can't even justify adding 25 direct for the perks, because I can get 50 resale for that!! We will only go probably 1-2 times per year, so Discounted APs aren't needed. Ive gone through the perks of direct/resale and can't even see using most of them, so it was a no brainer. I just thought I'd ask here to see if there were any, so we wouldn't miss out if there was.

Personally I think it'd be smart to do the 25 point add on to have the options later, esp for non FL residents. If not, one should do the additional purchase up front if possible. To me that's the case even if the numbers don't add up now for 2 reasons. First, I don't think one will be able to get the benefits of 25 points retail long term and I suspect there will be other changes going forward to hurt unqualified members and push people to retail.

 

[Anal Annie]

I agree the direct prices are crazy- I can't even justify adding 25 direct for the perks, because I can get 50 resale for that!! We will only go probably 1-2 times per year, so Discounted APs aren't needed. Ive gone through the perks of direct/resale and can't even see using most of them, so it was a no brainer. I just thought I'd ask here to see if there were any, so we wouldn't miss out if there was.

The direct prices only ever go UP so now would be the time to take the leap for a few points...and you never know if they may raise the minimum purchase from 25 to 50 or 100 or something. Then it really would be cost prohibitive. They're likely to catch onto people who already have resale contracts buying the minimum of 25 for the extra benefits & they will put a stop to it by raising the minimum. Would not surprise me.

Personally we go 2-3 times a year so the savings we see on buying the AP's, TIW and merchandise discounts are nice to receive and we take full advantage of them. At some point they may put so many more restrictions on resale contracts that nobody will buy them. Then whatcha gonna do if you want to sell?

 

[wdw4rfam]

The direct prices only ever go UP so now would be the time to take the leap for a few points...and you never know if they may raise the minimum purchase from 25 to 50 or 100 or something. Then it really would be cost prohibitive. They're likely to catch onto people who already have resale contracts buying the minimum of 25 for the extra benefits & they will put a stop to it by raising the minimum. Would not surprise me.

Personally we go 2-3 times a year so the savings we see on buying the AP's, TIW and merchandise discounts are nice to receive and we take full advantage of them. At some point they may put so many more restrictions on resale contracts that nobody will buy them. Then whatcha gonna do if you want to sell?

Im confused as I said I'd never buy direct, so I don't care if they add a minimum of 100 points. Don't want the perks. I already get a merchandise discount with my Disney visa, and do mostly counter service food so no loss there either. We only eat TS maybe 3-4 times per trip. The perks aren't worth it for us. I paid almost a third of the direct price!!! Not sure what buying resale/direct now has to do with the fact that Disney may restrict in the future on resales, then no matter how you originally purchased, you won't be able to resell right?? It may be a good value to some for the perks to buy direct, but not us.

 

[Dean]

Im confused as I said I'd never buy direct, so I don't care if they add a minimum of 100 points. Don't want the perks. I already get a merchandise discount with my Disney visa, and do mostly counter service food so no loss there either. We only eat TS maybe 3-4 times per trip. The perks aren't worth it for us. I paid almost a third of the direct price!!! Not sure what buying resale/direct now has to do with the fact that Disney may restrict in the future on resales, then no matter how you originally purchased, you won't be able to resell right?? It may be a good value to some for the perks to buy direct, but not us.

My point was that it may not be worth it today in your situation but it might be at some point in the future and you may not have the feasible option to do so. It sounds like you're thinking the only things they could do would be to waive discounts and perks at you and that's not necessarily the case but even if it is, they might add up over time. Certainly it's a gamble but the real cost is in the $1750 range compared to just buying the extra points as part of a full sized package. The real cost is less compared to just buying a smaller package because the per point price is more for smaller points packages and the closing is slightly less for retail. Realize they could remove current benefits that are not contractual and could add fees that might be waived for certain situations. IF they instituted a VIP program it might or might not make an difference but in that situation it likely wouldn't because usually those require a sufficient number of qualified points. Likely one of the biggest things they could do would be to refuse to combine future purchases into existing master accounts. Certainly the best time to make this decision either way is prior to the first purchase so one an plan according.

 

[Anal Annie]

I guess if not having any perks at all is irrelevant and not important to the OP I don't get the point of them even starting this thread?!

Travel habits change - hopefully they won't change their minds and reevaluate how valuable perks can be a few years down the road...

Still don't understand the point of the thread...

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

I guess if not having any perks at all is irrelevant and not important to the OP I don't get the point of them even starting this thread?!

Travel habits change - hopefully they won't change their minds and reevaluate how valuable perks can be a few years down the road...

Still don't understand the point of the thread...

I see a few bits of misinformation pop up about perks etc for resale. I think they were just wanting to clarify what they would get and what they wouldn't.

 

[wdw4rfam]

I see a few bits of misinformation pop up about perks etc for resale. I think they were just wanting to clarify what they would get and what they wouldn't.

THANK YOU!! Just wanted to know if I qualified for any that I wasn't aware of, (bought assuming we were getting none),so I didn't miss out. Didnt want to start a debate on if it was worth it to pay double to have them. We already bought. I have already decided for us it's no.

 

[wdw4rfam]

I guess if not having any perks at all is irrelevant and not important to the OP I don't get the point of them even starting this thread?!

Travel habits change - hopefully they won't change their minds and reevaluate how valuable perks can be a few years down the road...

Still don't understand the point of the thread...

The point is just as my post said.....are there any perks at all that I don't know about, since I already assume it's none. I just wanted to make sure there wasn't anything we were unaware of, that maybe we'd use that I didn't need to pay double for. I don't remember asking anyone if they thought I made the right decision for my family by buying resale.

 

[Dean]

THANK YOU!! Just wanted to know if I qualified for any that I wasn't aware of, (bought assuming we were getting none),so I didn't miss out. Didnt want to start a debate on if it was worth it to pay double to have them. We already bought. I have already decided for us it's no.

Posts are often made to the issue, not just the specific person posting. I can't speak for others but I intentionally answer questions for others who might be interested in the topic now or who might read in the future.

 

[wdw4rfam]

Posts are often made to the issue, not just the specific person posting. I can't speak for others but I intentionally answer questions for others who might be interested in the topic now or who might read in the future.

I appreciate that, your post was informational. I was just saying that to the other person who questioned my reason for it in the first place- To come on a post where I asked a question, not answer it, but instead try and convince me that I made a bad decision buying resale in the first place- then question why I asked the question ????? I was simply stating I asked if there were any perks that I might not know about. Kind of like if you are offered a free sample of something- sure you take the free sample....doesn't mean you want to pay for it. But I already stated that I completely understand why some do.

 

[Anal Annie]

I appreciate that, your post was informational. I was just saying that to the other person who questioned my reason for it in the first place- To come on a post where I asked a question, not answer it, but instead try and convince me that I made a bad decision buying resale in the first place- then question why I asked the question ????? I was simply stating I asked if there were any perks that I might not know about. Kind of like if you are offered a free sample of something- sure you take the free sample....doesn't mean you want to pay for it. But I already stated that I completely understand why some do.

Go re-read my posts. I never once questioned your reasons or motives. Not once. NOR did I say anywhere in my posts that you "made a bad decision". You completely mis-interpreted my posts. I was simply pointing out, as did Dean, that if you change your mind about wanting the perks later down the road that it would be cheaper to buy a small direct contract sooner rather than to wait for later since the direct prices only ever go UP and they may put more restrictions on the direct purchase. Once you said the perks were irrelevant I couldn't figure out why you were even asking about them.

If we were to ever add on we would likely purchase re-sale - there's nothing wrong with buying resale but I DO think there's value in having a few points purchased direct. Since we already own with a direct purchase we already have the perks - and we LIKE and USE the perks and take full advantage of them and find them very valuable. The AP discount on buying AP's saves us a lot and allows us to go more than 1x a year. Since you said you'd likely go 1-2x a year it would save you as well. Just don't go putting words in my mouth that I didn't say. I did not criticize your motives for buying re-sale I only questioned why you even started the thread.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

I think the good thing about the new world of resale is that resale buyers typically expect that they get pretty much no perks. This puts them ahead, expectations-wise, of the direct buyers who get upset that so many of the perks are inaccessible for various reasons.

 

[Maistre Gracey]

Heck, there may not be any perks in the future. Who knows?

Personally I think the AP discount is the only truly good perk, and that could be dropped on a dime.
Even so, 25 points at an extra $80 for direct is still an extra 2g's. That's what..?? Roughly the savings on 20 AP's ?

I guess there are some other okay perks, but many of them seem to be covered by other means.

MG

 

[Dean]

Heck, there may not be any perks in the future. Who knows?

Personally I think the AP discount is the only truly good perk, and that could be dropped on a dime.
Even so, 25 points at an extra $80 for direct is still an extra 2g's. That's what..?? Roughly the savings on 20 AP's ?

I guess there are some other okay perks, but many of them seem to be covered by other means.

MG

Personally I think it's going to be more about taking away from non qualified owners than adding in for the qualified ones though likely some of both. They really have to differentiate the retail purchases in a way that makes even informed owners at least consider it and that'll take some doing. The easiest way to do so is with a VIP program but that would leave out even many of those with qualified points. The other options is pay to play with banking, borrowing cancelations and the like. It's doubtful they can create enough separation with these types of no/low cost perks alone.

 

[mustinjourney]

Heck, there may not be any perks in the future. Who knows?

Personally I think the AP discount is the only truly good perk, and that could be dropped on a dime.
Even so, 25 points at an extra $80 for direct is still an extra 2g's. That's what..?? Roughly the savings on 20 AP's ?

I guess there are some other okay perks, but many of them seem to be covered by other means.

MG

For a non-florida resident, you can save $200 off each AP...so $2000 would be 10 APs.

I added on 25 at BCV, and with the lower closing costs and extra (current UY) points included for "free" (I didn't pay any prorated MFs on them), the delta was really only about $30-$40 a point going retail vs resale. I paid right at $4100 (including closing costs) for 25 points direct, and that contract would have been about $3200 via resale (with closing and if I could even find one in my UY), which means I paid about $900 more than I would have. However, I'm getting $200 off three APs in year one, which means I only paid an extra $300. If we do APs one more time, I'm already coming out way ahead. And that doesn't count any of the dining or merchandise discounts.

Or the "free" totebag.

I just wish I had done 35-50 points direct instead of 25. My main contract is at VGF, so I got the small direct at BCV with the thought of doing F&W every other year -- but 50 or even 75 points doesn't go as far as I'd like. Live and learn.