Any other police officers who have stayed at Disney?

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Just to inform the other Officers, My Hubby and his Department recieved a NASRO award and it was held at Coronado Springs Convention, Along with training for the week.....

National Association School Resource Officers, My Hubby was a School resource Officer for 5 years and they were always sending him away Yearly during the summers to training.....

It was held the summer of 2007, I asked him how they all felt about Disney's Policy....And they were all Comfortable with it but he also said he did have other Officers who wanted to bring in their Off Duty to the parks and Disney Said No.......He said there were plenty of Officers from out of state agencies who were not to Happy about that...... Some of the training also consists of how to deal with terror attacks in schools and public places, So I will agree with some posters, The LEO is always more aware of their surroundings especially when they are being trained and informed the way they are....Does this mean its hard for them to let their Gaurd down, With my Hubby I will say yes, Its hard for him to relax in public gatherings.....He still has a great Time in Disney but is aware what can happen in there too....Its my life much different to your average life but we are used to it by now..I try my best to make him relax.
 
Just to inform the other Officers, My Hubby and his Department recieved a NASRO award and it was held at Coronado Springs Convention, Along with training for the week.....

National Association School Resource Officers, My Hubby was a School resource Officer for 5 years and they were always sending him away Yearly during the summers to training.....

It was held the summer of 2007, I asked him how they all felt about Disney's Policy....And they were all Comfortable with it but he also said he did have other Officers who wanted to bring in their Off Duty to the parks and Disney Said No.......He said there were plenty of Officers from out of state agencies who were not to Happy about that...... Some of the training also consists of how to deal with terror attacks in schools and public places, So I will agree with some posters, The LEO is always more aware of their surroundings especially when they are being trained and informed the way they are....Does this mean its hard for them to let their Gaurd down, With my Hubby I will say yes, Its hard for him to relax in public gatherings.....He still has a great Time in Disney but is aware what can happen in there too....Its my life much different to your average life but we are used to it by now..I try my best to make him relax.


you know, i have found this also --- my husband is always so very aware of everthing and everyone --- ever since becoming and officer he will not sit with his back to the door of a restaraunt --- he always faces the doors to see who is coming in and out --- i agree that he does know how to have a good time but is always on the look out, so to speak ---
 
you know, i have found this also --- my husband is always so very aware of everthing and everyone --- ever since becoming and officer he will not sit with his back to the door of a restaraunt --- he always faces the doors to see who is coming in and out --- i agree that he does know how to have a good time but is always on the look out, so to speak ---


Thats funny, My hubby does the same exact thing, We usually play musical chairs as my girls call it,lol...and we have actually left a place cause he didnt feel comfortable or gave a ticket to or arrested someone in the place we were at as well....
 

H.R. 218 gives off-duty, as well as retired, police officers right to carry reciprocity throughout the nation.

I know others have mentioned this.

My husband is a Parole Officer (state Law Enforcement). Our mailman is a disgruntled Parolee's stepdad. It is a small world (no Disney pun intended). It is important for him to carry off duty sometimes to protect himself. He was also a Marine, and there have been many news stories of gangs attacking police and military to prove THEIR manhood. Anyhow, he can be a target, not necessarily at Disney. I don't think he would feel the need to carry in Disney, but the drive down is different.

The law is also important in case he has his gun with him b/c he is going to/from somewhere on/off duty. For instance, I might meet him for dinner after work. Well, he usually doesn't want to go into an establishment in uniform (parole officers get less respect than police do and many restaurants have parolees that work there)...so does he leave his weapon in the car? He is responsible (ethically, financially, legally) if it is stolen from an unattended vehicle (this has happened when a parole officer took his wife to the hospital and left weapon in the car)....so he must put on regular clothes and conceal the weapon.

And Disney is wonderful, maybe we don't want to spoil it and that is what riles everyone up. But you better believe there are illegal guns in the parks. I work in schools. I worked with a (seemingly normal) 4th grader who brought two large knives to school and talked to other students about hurting the teacher.

Oh, and about all this stethoscope stuff...not the same thing, but I used to carry my CPR card with the steps...EVERY CPR class I goes to encourages you to always carry a little key chain with gloves and a mouthpiece so you don't get diseases if you do try to help someone. And they recommend first aid kits in your car.

The Atlanta Public Schools are trying to ensure that there is an AED in every school.
 
H.R. 218 gives off-duty, as well as retired, police officers right to carry reciprocity throughout the nation.

I know others have mentioned this.

My husband is a Parole Officer (state Law Enforcement). Our mailman is a disgruntled Parolee's stepdad. It is a small world (no Disney pun intended). It is important for him to carry off duty sometimes to protect himself. He was also a Marine, and there have been many news stories of gangs attacking police and military to prove THEIR manhood. Anyhow, he can be a target, not necessarily at Disney. I don't think he would feel the need to carry in Disney, but the drive down is different.

The law is also important in case he has his gun with him b/c he is going to/from somewhere on/off duty. For instance, I might meet him for dinner after work. Well, he usually doesn't want to go into an establishment in uniform (parole officers get less respect than police do and many restaurants have parolees that work there)...so does he leave his weapon in the car? He is responsible (ethically, financially, legally) if it is stolen from an unattended vehicle (this has happened when a parole officer took his wife to the hospital and left weapon in the car)....so he must put on regular clothes and conceal the weapon.

And Disney is wonderful, maybe we don't want to spoil it and that is what riles everyone up. But you better believe there are illegal guns in the parks. I work in schools. I worked with a (seemingly normal) 4th grader who brought two large knives to school and talked to other students about hurting the teacher.

Oh, and about all this stethoscope stuff...not the same thing, but I used to carry my CPR card with the steps...EVERY CPR class I goes to encourages you to always carry a little key chain with gloves and a mouthpiece so you don't get diseases if you do try to help someone. And they recommend first aid kits in your car.

The Atlanta Public Schools are trying to ensure that there is an AED in every school.
An AED in a school is completely different than someone carrying a gun. I'm not really sure that is an applicable comparison especially since an AED is a tool to assist the average citizen until the professionals arrive. It is a lifesaving device not something designed to inflict injury.

Tone of voice, inflection and true meaning are obviously lost in cyberspace. When we read, one may translate a very wqelll meaning post into something it isn't and get rather defensive, myself included.

I am not a cop nor is my husband. We do have several friends who are and two very good friends who are state troopers. We also know many in state corrections; if anyone should fear retribution it would be them .;) I know a very close friend of ours describes stuff he deals with and I can't believe it half the time . AS average citizens, we don't regularly think of the bad that is out there. I made my DH cease telling me about calls years ago. His job is his job and, for the most part, he leaves the bad there. I have no issue with an off duty police officer carrying a gun. I hate guns. They scare the daylights out of me, but it is their choice (actually I despise them so much that one of my good friends sits across the table from me if he is on duty when we meet for morning coffee so that I don't have to see his gun).

I agree. Police officers do get a bad rep for being macho and better than others. The majority probably aren't, but there are many who do act as if they are better than everyone else. That' not limited to their profession but I am sure it doesn't help the whole picture when a law enforcement officer approaches a vehicle with an attitude of superiority. Last year, for example, we were pulled over by a CHP in lake tahoe. I have never met someone with more of an attitude than this guy. I was blown away by how rude he was. For the record, we'd not done anything wrong. The person two vehicles in front of us (we were at a stop sign turning onto Hwy 50) ran the stop sign. The CHP was going to opposite direction on Hwy 50 and had already passed the intersection. DH stopped then proceeded and didn't know the patrol guy had turned around to pull the other car over. They almost collided but it was the troopers fault. He didn't have lights on and dh was well into the turn already. Anyhow, he was downright rude. Got on his loud speaker, talking crap to us. DH inmmediately pulled over. The whole ordeal was just horrible. He had all of us lined up on the side of the road as if we were common criminals when we'd done absolutely nothing wrong. He nearly arrested my cousin simply because she'd left her purse a my uncles house and couldn't provide ID. She wasn't driving either.

Needless to say, my thoughts on California LEO is pretty bad. We obviously didn't get a ticket but it was a horrible way to be treated while on vacation. There are lots of them like that out there and things like that are why you hear "they are never around when you need them" Most people only interact with police in a bad situation.

There are many in other professions who have just as bad a superior complex - you just don't hear as much about them since they aren't accompanied by a big ole gun. ;)

I respect the OP for posting and wanting to know what the policies are. Those are the types of law enforcement officers you want around. I wish we heard more storiess of polie who helped, but, like we all know, the media likes to tell the bad stories a lot more.

AS far as the poster the job being dangerous, I would tend to believe both the job of a FF and LEO are extremely dangerous, though totally different. They all face dangers and horrors most of us don't ever encounter. One can debate which job is more dangerous until one is blue in the face - one would probably get as far as the age old voly vs career debate. No one ever completely agrees
Again, I will respectfully disagree with the pst regarding 9/11. I do think it is disrespectful. The NYFD dispatched over 200 of their stations - more than 1/2 their dept. to the WTC. The NYPD also went and many did go in. The PD, however, evactuated which is why the FD casualties were more than 5x the collective amt of NYPD, EMT and Port Authority casualties. Regardless, they all did an amazing job and gave selflessly of themselves in what was the worst attack on American soil.

Now, there' my $10 worth......:rotfl:
 
you know, i have found this also --- my husband is always so very aware of everthing and everyone --- ever since becoming and officer he will not sit with his back to the door of a restaraunt --- he always faces the doors to see who is coming in and out --- i agree that he does know how to have a good time but is always on the look out, so to speak ---



Too funny!! My hubby just turned 40...he has been in LE for 17 years now...he started as a correctional officer...move on to an 'on the road' deputy and now is an investigator....we have been married for 10 years and he is exactly as you describe your husband...I automatically always sit with my back to the door of the restaurant if we are sitting opposite each other and vise versa if we are sitting on the same side. I am well aware of his 'awareness' and have become so 'tuned in' to him that I am aware when something alerts him...My hubby also knows how to have a good time but that little part of him is always 'turned on' and scanning our surroundings.

Are 80% of all your friends in law enforcement too?? ;)
 
I too an a police officer and have always carried my weapon with me when travelling to Disney from Nj since we drive and as said by others you never know what u will come across at some of these rest stops or areas that you go through. I have never though of bringing my weapon into the parks as Disney has rules against it and That is fine with me. I always have my weapon locked up and away, but feel comfortable knowing that it is there in an emergency. My family comes first and I will take all precautions to keep them safe from those that wish to do them harm.
 
Too funny!! My hubby just turned 40...he has been in LE for 17 years now...he started as a correctional officer...move on to an 'on the road' deputy and now is an investigator....we have been married for 10 years and he is exactly as you describe your husband...I automatically always sit with my back to the door of the restaurant if we are sitting opposite each other and vise versa if we are sitting on the same side. I am well aware of his 'awareness' and have become so 'tuned in' to him that I am aware when something alerts him...My hubby also knows how to have a good time but that little part of him is always 'turned on' and scanning our surroundings.

Are 80% of all your friends in law enforcement too?? ;)

omg, yes!!! --- atleast once a month my DH will have boys night in and the guys come over to our house to play xbox 360 and i'll run out and buy them dinner --- you should see all these police officer hootin' and hollerin' as they play their games like little boys...it just cracks me up...

then we go to a BBQ or something and the other wives and i always comment on all the police officers in one place --- but you know, it is easier to talk to other police wives than it is to talk to my other friends...just because they "get it" ... you know what i mean???

i also had to cringe a little when i read the above poster say her dh didn't get as much respect due to the type of officer he is...

my dh is a Certified Texas Peace Officer --- he is a police officer in our city but he works for the Parks division --- so he is Park Police Officer --- i cannot tell you how naive citizens are about these officers --- thinking they are not real officers or they cannot do arrests out in the streets, outside of parks...it's silly, really...

my dh has just as much authority as any other officer --- he carries the same gun, the same cuffs, the same asp, the same taser, etc --- i always crack up when he tells me a story of how someone says "hey, your not a real officer, you can't arrest me" and my dh will tell them back "well, then you won't care when i put these fake handcuffs on you and take you down to the fake jail"...:laughing:
 
omg, yes!!! --- atleast once a month my DH will have boys night in and the guys come over to our house to play xbox 360 and i'll run out and buy them dinner --- you should see all these police officer hootin' and hollerin' as they play their games like little boys...it just cracks me up...

then we go to a BBQ or something and the other wives and i always comment on all the police officers in one place --- but you know, it is easier to talk to other police wives than it is to talk to my other friends...just because they "get it" ... you know what i mean???

i also had to cringe a little when i read the above poster say her dh didn't get as much respect due to the type of officer he is...

my dh is a Certified Texas Peace Officer --- he is a police officer in our city but he works for the Parks division --- so he is Park Police Officer --- i cannot tell you how naive citizens are about these officers --- thinking they are not real officers or they cannot do arrests out in the streets, outside of parks...it's silly, really...

my dh has just as much authority as any other officer --- he carries the same gun, the same cuffs, the same asp, the same taser, etc --- i always crack up when he tells me a story of how someone says "hey, your not a real officer, you can't arrest me" and my dh will tell them back "well, then you won't care when i put these fake handcuffs on you and take you down to the fake jail"...:laughing:
See, this is exactly what I am refering to. Why call it silly. I have never heard of a Park Police officer. We certainly don't have them around here. But why would your husband laugh at citizens who didn't know what that means. Even more ,why would you laugh and call them silly?

You are correct, those of us who aren't in law enforcement or aren't married to one don't understand. Just like the poster who said firefighting isn't as dangerous. When was the last time they were in a building burning at an average of 1500 degrees. I certainly don't walk around laughing at people who mistake a volunteer FF for a career firefighters and I most definitely don't correct them. I simply explain the differnece. When someone hears my DH is a ff they often mistake him for someone who gets called at home and goes off to a call. We simply explain that no that is a volunteer who isn't employed as a firefighter. Why would you laugh at someone who doesn't understand. Wouldn't it create more understanding if you simply explained what a park peace officer instead. :confused3 ;)
 
See, this is exactly what I am refering to. Why call it silly. I have never heard of a Park Police officer. We certainly don't have them around here. But why would your husband laugh at citizens who didn't know what that means. Even more ,why would you laugh and call them silly?

You are correct, those of us who aren't in law enforcement or aren't married to one don't understand. Just like the poster who said firefighting isn't as dangerous. When was the last time they were in a building burning at an average of 1500 degrees. I certainly don't walk around laughing at people who mistake a volunteer FF for a career firefighters and I most definitely don't correct them. I simply explain the differnece. When someone hears my DH is a ff they often mistake him for someone who gets called at home and goes off to a call. We simply explain that no that is a volunteer who isn't employed as a firefighter. Why would you laugh at someone who doesn't understand. Wouldn't it create more understanding if you simply explained what a park peace officer instead. :confused3 ;)


okay, not sure why you're getting so defensive --- the thing is that in our city the Park Police officers are known ... they police a large part of our city, on all sides of the city, especially downtown...the only reason some people say they are not real officers is because they have the word "Park" in front of Police Officer --- that is what is silly --- the Park officers have almost 300 on the force in their division, they are hardly some little division that nobody knows about...they come out on the news for their undercover work and arrests, etc...yet people still want to say they are not real officers...

i guess unless you live here, you cannot relate...

it's not like my husband is out there laughing at the people he is arresting...and it's kind of hard to stop and explain to someone what their job entails when he is wrestling them to the ground trying to get handcuffs on them...most of the time the people being arrested are drunk or high on drugs and are calling him every name in the book, so honestly, even if he did try to explain anything to them, do you really think they would care???

what i laugh at is when the punk gang bangers think my husband has no authority and are put in their place real quick when they are in cuffs and headed to jail...

again, unless you are the wife of a PO, it's probably not something you will understand...sorry...the person i was qouting and resonding to is the wife of a PO and i am sure she would "get it"...
 
okay, not sure why you're getting so defensive --- the thing is that in our city the Park Police officers are known ... they police a large part of our city, on all sides of the city, especially downtown...the only reason some people say they are not real officers is because they have the word "Park" in front of Police Officer --- that is what is silly --- the Park officers have almost 300 on the force in their division, they are hardly some little division that nobody knows about...they come out on the news for their undercover work and arrests, etc...yet people still want to say they are not real officers...

i guess unless you live here, you cannot relate...

it's not like my husband is out there laughing at the people he is arresting...and it's kind of hard to stop and explain to someone what their job entails when he is wrestling them to the ground trying to get handcuffs on them...most of the time the people being arrested are drunk or high on drugs and are calling him every name in the book, so honestly, even if he did try to explain anything to them, do you really think they would care???

what i laugh at is when the punk gang bangers think my husband has no authority and are put in their place real quick when they are in cuffs and headed to jail...

again, unless you are the wife of a PO, it's probably not something you will understand...sorry...the person i was qouting and resonding to is the wife of a PO and i am sure she would "get it"...


LOL, I wasn't being defensive...sorry if that's how it sounded. I was saying this is why people get the idea that police officers think they are better than others. I certainly didn't mean he should stop and explain while arresting someone....that would be silly. But, the way it reads, it does make it sound like he is laughing at people. You are correct, I don't understand. I simply think it's ironic that so many in LE have these I am so much better than everyone else attitude yet they don't understand why people don't like them. Like I said, I have many friends in LE and they, thankfully, are great people, albeit with a wrped sense of humor, but there are plenty on our local dept who are, quite frankly, outright jerks. Fortunately I don't live in an area where I could call anyone a punk gang banger. In fact, I am not realy sure what type of person that refers to. :) As for the park peace officer, I am just curious as to why there is a differnet division. Are the regular cops not able to protect the park? That's a serious ?, not sarcastic. I've never heard that so I am curious


Again, I certainly have all the respect in the world for cops...except when they think their gun makes them some super person. Too many forget why they got into their profession, but, again, that goes for many professions not just cops
 
omg, yes!!! --- atleast once a month my DH will have boys night in and the guys come over to our house to play xbox 360 and i'll run out and buy them dinner --- you should see all these police officer hootin' and hollerin' as they play their games like little boys...it just cracks me up...

then we go to a BBQ or something and the other wives and i always comment on all the police officers in one place --- but you know, it is easier to talk to other police wives than it is to talk to my other friends...just because they "get it" ... you know what i mean???

i also had to cringe a little when i read the above poster say her dh didn't get as much respect due to the type of officer he is...

my dh is a Certified Texas Peace Officer --- he is a police officer in our city but he works for the Parks division --- so he is Park Police Officer --- i cannot tell you how naive citizens are about these officers --- thinking they are not real officers or they cannot do arrests out in the streets, outside of parks...it's silly, really...

my dh has just as much authority as any other officer --- he carries the same gun, the same cuffs, the same asp, the same taser, etc --- i always crack up when he tells me a story of how someone says "hey, your not a real officer, you can't arrest me" and my dh will tell them back "well, then you won't care when i put these fake handcuffs on you and take you down to the fake jail"...:laughing:


We could be living the same lives!!! We too, about once a month have the 'get together'. This month it is next Saturday!! Our house is used about once every six months or so....and yes...my BFF is another cops wife, because she 'gets it'!! We even bought our house on the same street as theirs!!!

And yes!!! A sworn in LEO is an officer in every capacity...no matter where his/or her juridiction may lie! Other cops 'get' it with no problem...I don't know why a citizen would think any differently, but they do, and I LOVE your hubby's comeback for it :rotfl2:

I know I feel safer not only because my husband is trained and capable of protecting us but because I am more aware of what really goes on in the world and I know that ANYONE can be a victim. I also know what I can do as a citizen and a mother to protect myself and my family. My husband does carry his weapon with him wherever we go....but inside the WDW parks is one place it does not go, it stays locked up inside the room. The only other place I can think of that he does not bring it is into church....
 
LOL, I wasn't being defensive...sorry if that's how it sounded. I was saying this is why people get the idea that police officers think they are better than others. I certainly didn't mean he should stop and explain while arresting someone....that would be silly. But, the way it reads, it does make it sound like he is laughing at people. You are correct, I don't understand. I simply think it's ironic that so many in LE have these I am so much better than everyone else attitude yet they don't understand why people don't like them. Like I said, I have many friends in LE and they, thankfully, are great people, albeit with a wrped sense of humor, but there are plenty on our local dept who are, quite frankly, outright jerks. Fortunately I don't live in an area where I could call anyone a punk gang banger. In fact, I am not realy sure what type of person that refers to. :) As for the park peace officer, I am just curious as to why there is a differnet division. Are the regular cops not able to protect the park? That's a serious ?, not sarcastic. I've never heard that so I am curious


Again, I certainly have all the respect in the world for cops...except when they think their gun makes them some super person. Too many forget why they got into their profession, but, again, that goes for many professions not just cops


Well....cop, deputy, trooper, peace officer, constable, police officer, park ranger and I am sure there are more. They are all sworn in officers of the law. They all have arresting cababilities and all deserve our respect and praise. There are cops...and citizens too that think a gun makes them super! No matter who they are they are wrong and it's scary to think of anyone out there that thinks that! LEO do indeed have a different, (I won't say warped), sense of humor...so do firefighter and paramedics and trauma doctors that work in the ER. These people deal with things on a daily basis that some of us, thankfully, never have to ever see or hear about. Their 'sense of humor' is thier way of relieving the stress and bonding with their co-workers. It is not 'humor'.

And yes, I could never have understood all of this on the level I do if I was not married to a LEO.
 
Hi, this is the DH of the poster (I'm a LEO) who initially made the comment about the dangerous aspects of both the PO and FF.

I think the lady who responded about the WTC incident may have misunderstood what my DW was trying to say.

In no way was she deriding the dangerous aspect of being a FF she was just trying to state that in most instances when a FF responds to a fire call he/she knows what they will be dealing with ,a fire (dangerous in and of itself) , where as when a PO responds to an "unknown trouble " call we do not know what we are headed into.

As for carrying a weapon off duty, I do all the time. Not because I am some macho gun happy gun nut, but because I love my DW and DD and have put more than a few "dirtbags" in prison who have vowed to kill me and my family when released.

And finally I feel that the LEO who made the initial post about carrying his weapon aksed a valid question that most of us who are "on the job" wanted to know but may have not known quite how to ask.
 
LOL, I wasn't being defensive...sorry if that's how it sounded. I was saying this is why people get the idea that police officers think they are better than others. I certainly didn't mean he should stop and explain while arresting someone....that would be silly. But, the way it reads, it does make it sound like he is laughing at people. You are correct, I don't understand. I simply think it's ironic that so many in LE have these I am so much better than everyone else attitude yet they don't understand why people don't like them. Like I said, I have many friends in LE and they, thankfully, are great people, albeit with a wrped sense of humor, but there are plenty on our local dept who are, quite frankly, outright jerks. Fortunately I don't live in an area where I could call anyone a punk gang banger. In fact, I am not realy sure what type of person that refers to. :) As for the park peace officer, I am just curious as to why there is a differnet division. Are the regular cops not able to protect the park? That's a serious ?, not sarcastic. I've never heard that so I am curious


Again, I certainly have all the respect in the world for cops...except when they think their gun makes them some super person. Too many forget why they got into their profession, but, again, that goes for many professions not just cops

well, it sounds to me like maybe you just haven't had good experiences with PO and therefore are somewhat biased --- i just went back and read your long post above, something i had not read before...like i said i was only qouting and answering the lady that had written to me...

it also seems like you are from a small town which may be utopia if you don't know what a gang member is ... but either way, we live in a city that is in the top 10 of the largest US cities --- we have almost 1.5 million people in this city and over 200 parks in the city --- the parks range in size from 1/2 acre to almost 1000 acres --- with a city of our size and with as many parks as our city has it is better community service to have a seperate division, one that specifically assigned ---

also, i couldn't help but point out what i bolded in your post ... it's that kind of thing, calling some "regular" cops and others not regular cops that adds to the misconceptions that so many have --- my husband is just as much a "regular" cop as any other cop and having the word Park in front of his title does not make him any less of a cop...it just means that he is assigned to a different division of the police department...

am i being defensive now, yeah, i am...it's kind of hard not to be when my husband experiences the same danger that all "regular" cops have --- as i said in another post, my husband has had a knife pulled on him, a gun pulled on him, his life threatened, as well as his families life threatened...

this is not a subject i take lightly so maybe we should "agree to disagree" and move on...
 
yes, by your standards we live in a small town - 75,000 people. No, I don't have regular interaction with gang members. I think the closest gang to us is in NYC and I'd most likely avoid those people.

i wasn't using the term regular in a derogatory fashion, merely meaning I'd never heard of special division to patrol parks. Different areas. I was just curious as even in the city here (as in NYC) I don't know that the police officers patroling Central park are called park peace officer. really, I was curious as to the name, that's it.

I am just your regular average joe schmoe citizen so I don't really have any experience with cops on an official basis other than the guy I refered to when we were in California (the ones I know personally and have coffee with everyday are much nicer than that, thankfully). By the CA story I was just explaining why some of them get a really bad name. We certainly did come back to CT and tell our friends what a jerk he was and how he thought he was God's gift to the world, Again, I also stated that there are plenty of other professions where people think they are the world's greatest gift. I have a good friend who is a physician. Love him on a personal basis, can't stand him as a doctor. he thinks he's the greatest and he often wonders why none of his friends are his patients. We all just laugh.

i can see why you get defensive but I really didn't mean it in a negative way. i certainly didn't mean he was less of a cop. I was asking why there was a special division just like I asked pmedic how one could be a FF/PO and paramedic at once - we don't have that around here so I was curious.

I am well aware of what a gang member is, however, the term you used was not a "gang member". Since I don't run around with anyone in a gang, I guess you could call it utopia but it sounds as if there was more sarcasn to your statement than anything
 
Obviously you would probably agree with the PP that it was the cops who saved over 14,000 people in the WTC on 9/11

That was not nice.....everyone has an opinion and if you agree to disagree it should not be ended on a sarcastic note.
 
yes, by your standards we live in a small town - 75,000 people. No, I don't have regular interaction with gang members. I think the closest gang to us is in NYC and I'd most likely avoid those people.

i wasn't using the term regular in a derogatory fashion, merely meaning I'd never heard of special division to patrol parks. Different areas. I was just curious as even in the city here (as in NYC) I don't know that the police officers patroling Central park are called park peace officer. really, I was curious as to the name, that's it.

I am just your regular average joe schmoe citizen so I don't really have any experience with cops on an official basis other than the guy I refered to when we were in California (the ones I know personally and have coffee with everyday are much nicer than that, thankfully). By the CA story I was just explaining why some of them get a really bad name. We certainly did come back to CT and tell our friends what a jerk he was and how he thought he was God's gift to the world, Again, I also stated that there are plenty of other professions where people think they are the world's greatest gift. I have a good friend who is a physician. Love him on a personal basis, can't stand him as a doctor. he thinks he's the greatest and he often wonders why none of his friends are his patients. We all just laugh.

i can see why you get defensive but I really didn't mean it in a negative way. i certainly didn't mean he was less of a cop. I was asking why there was a special division just like I asked pmedic how one could be a FF/PO and paramedic at once - we don't have that around here so I was curious.

I am well aware of what a gang member is, however, the term you used was not a "gang member". Since I don't run around with anyone in a gang, I guess you could call it utopia but it sounds as if there was more sarcasn to your statement than anything

just for educational purposes...
http://www.centralpark.com/pages/general-info/central-park-police.html

and this qoute is referring to New York STATE Park Police...
Park Police maintain regular patrols, assist motorists and park users, make arrests, conduct criminal and non-criminal investigations, and provide emergency services. New York State Park Police Officers are New York State Police officers whose authority extends statewide and whose primary responsibility it is to enforce laws and provide assistance and protection at New York’s state parks and historic sites. They enforce all state and federal laws, and may be assigned to patrol by boat, ATV, snowmobile, bike, personal watercraft or foot.

The State Park Police force has been in existence and conducting patrols since 1899. Today, there are more than 225 permanent members across New York State, and another 200 part-time seasonal members.
 
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