Another "If, Then, When, What" thread- VDH direct, VGC Resale or neither?

I don’t think I’ve seen anyone mention this— it sounds like you’re talking about visiting DLR every 3 years with AUL— if that’s the case and you are banking and borrowing, I absolutely would NOT recommend resale at a restricted resort. On the other hand, as time goes on, direct points at VDH could be more valuable (for flexibility in rebooking a trip with changed/borrowed points) than VGC resale (assuming DVC continues to build new restricted resorts, the inflection point would probably be somewhere between 2035 and 2050?).

If I wasn’t banking and borrowing I would say definitely VGC resale (and would probably prefer it in any event based on personal preferences).
 
I feel like if I were to own one of the two DL DVC resorts, it'd be VGC just because in the back of my mind whenever I'm walking through DTD and pass by the DTD parking lot, part of me would be like I could've just taken my car and driven home (I know you can't park in that parking lot for the park but still LOL). I like DL hotel but if I were going to walk that far it'd be tempting to just stay off property.

I kind of view VGC as like a younger BCV/BWV and you're paying a lot for that location but it's likely worth it.
Price per point per / remaining years, I think it’s on par with BCV.
 
I mean…. in theory they could build a hotel right past Critter Country….. and it could be amazingly themed and have lots of villas…. so we don’t really know what the future holds. ….Which is why I’m glad I have some direct points as a hedge.
Yea that would be cool although it would block view from DLR (would it be more VGC/WL themed or?), or a Jungle Cruise theme?? (if they could find the space) Or New Orleans Square theme!! Ok, that's getting crazy, there just isn't the space.

I had mentioned a BLT style tower over by Space Mountain (currently the bus area), but it would kind of ruin the front of the park on Harbor side.
 

Yea that would be cool although it would block view from DLR (would it be more VGC/WL themed or?), or a Jungle Cruise theme?? (if they could find the space) Or New Orleans Square theme!! Ok, that's getting crazy, there just isn't the space.

I had mentioned a BLT style tower over by Space Mountain (currently the bus area), but it would kind of ruin the front of the park on Harbor side.
Don’t give up on it— what if they made it look really futuristic?

I also love the idea of a SEAS themed jungle cruise hotel. 😍
 
I feel like if I were to own one of the two DL DVC resorts, it'd be VGC just because in the back of my mind whenever I'm walking through DTD and pass by the DTD parking lot, part of me would be like I could've just taken my car and driven home (I know you can't park in that parking lot for the park but still LOL). I like DL hotel but if I were going to walk that far it'd be tempting to just stay off property.

I kind of view VGC as like a younger BCV/BWV and you're paying a lot for that location but it's likely worth it.
Exactly
 
Yeah, but it doesn’t have BCV’s point chart. If it did, it would probably be above $300 resale. 💸😭
True story
I mean…. in theory they could build a hotel right past Critter Country….. and it could be amazingly themed and have lots of villas…. so we don’t really know what the future holds. ….Which is why I’m glad I have some direct points as a hedge.
I wish they would've sold me direct points. The guide was kind of confused why I even asked.
 
Don’t give up on it— what if they made it look really futuristic?

I also love the idea of a SEAS themed jungle cruise hotel. 😍
Doesn't BLT already fit?
I mean its not futuristic for 2024, but its retro future, or mid-century modern futuristic, just like Tomorrowland (now if we could get them to make DLR Tomorrowland a more functioning, like Tomorrowland in WDW). ;)
 
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Hello all,

I'm hoping to get the DisBoard's collective mind on this for me ;). Quick background- we have a lot of WDW points, a mix of resale and direct. We also have Aulani, which we are targeting to use every three years. The problem is, every time we have wanted to tack on DL to an Aulani stay, it's been a nailbiting ordeal of both walking the room and offering sacrifices to the VGC deities to get our room. So, we are thinking about adding on a California contract. The current incentives for VDH are pretty tempting, though I'm not crazy about the restrictions devaluing the contract if we sell. The transient tax is also yucky when added on. However, the contract is longer than VGC. We've stayed at VGC a number of times and loved it, but the cost per point is somewhat insane compared to VDH direct. We do want to stay on property.

Any advice or food for thought would be much appreciated :)!
Both!!! Just kidding, not an owners here and we are doing the DL and Aulani split in about 3 weeks. We are just staying at the Hilton because we couldn’t get GCV at the 7 month mark. What can you do but try again in 3 years and just nag your guide from time to time for 40 direct points.
 
My suggestion....do some research outside of Disboards as well. There is a heavy anti VDH, pro GCV contingent here. It's Kanye West/taylor swift...""Yo, VDH I'm really happy for you, I'mma let you finish, but GCV is the best DVC hotel of all time! "

We've got 900 points at VDH. We go multiple times a year, usually 20-22 days total. We've gone to DLR resort for years, and honestly didn't know about DVC until we stayed at Aulani, and bought in there (we've got 1000+ points there). Once we learned about GCV and the then under construction VDH tower we looked into buying in SoCal as we were spending a TON of money staying on site up to that point.

We ended up buying at VDH instead of GCV as getting 900 points in the same use year would have been astronomical in cost upfront, as well as taken more time to accumulate that many points than we wanted. Our kids are getting older (as are we), and we wanted to use them immediately. We were already paying TOT at the DLH for multiple trips a year, so that was a non issues for us (and the TOT rate at VDH is actually less than what you'd pay on cash at DLH). Would it be nice if VDH had no TOT, of course, not going to lie, but it is what it is, and we're ok with it.

We've had multiple trips in 1 and 2 BRs and the views in those rooms are great, was able to watch the Fireworks from all of them. Yes, there are some crappy views from the studios (we had one when we stayed in a studio), we haven't had that yet in the villas. Just like there are some crappy views at GCV. You can have a beautiful view of DCA, or you can be looking at trees, or the brown wall separating the hotel and the park. There's good and bad at both. Don't forget your ear plugs at DCA if you're early to bed!

Just at VDH in April and no wear and tear visible in the 1BR we had. We had a minor issue with the refrigerator that was fixed the first day by maintenance.

We stayed at GCH one trip prior to buying at VDH and the lobby, location, and food options are great (although the last trip we were disappointed with storytellers, and thought Goofy’s had improved quite a bit).The Lobby is amazing! I love craftsman style, but didn't like the rooms. Old and busted and dark. No disney feel. VDH screams disney, and the rooms are nice and bright, we love them as do our kids. The VDH lobby is nice as well. Great Disney mural on the wall, very modern design. We do online check in, but we always still enter through the DLH which we also love for its modern design.

We prefer the pools at DLH over GCV (as do our kids). We've never encountered a loud drunk at DLH, which we have at GCH pools (usually when eating at the craftsman grill)

We've had no issues booking villas at 11 months. we've got our next two trips on the books. The only time we've had issues is at 30-45 days out wanting to add another night.

We've also wait listed at GCV many times (with our Aulani points, prior to VDH opening) to see if we can squeeze in a weekend trip....nothing ever came thru. I know some here have had luck, and maybe when we retire we'll have better luck with more schedule flexibility, but trying to get a 1 or 2BR there at 7 months that works with our kids school schedule has been impossible, and looking at the 11 month window hasn't looked a whole lot better. They are at the age now where we can't pull them out for DLR trips anymore, so we are stuck traveling when the school schedule allows, maybe missing one day at the start or end of a trip.

All the talk about the long walk cracks me up, especially from the WDW contingent where you need to take a boat, bus, monorail or shuttle to get anywhere, all in the Florida Heat and Humidity! Even to get around at some of the hotels you need a shuttle! Of course nothing beats GCV for location, but it's not as bad as it's made out to be from DLH/VDH. We left Rise one night and from exiting the ride to our room in the VDH tower it was about 20 min walk back. From the tomorrowland monorail station to the hotel is was about 17 mins. I'm old, overweight, have a busted up knee....and I do fine.

So take everything posted here a grain of salt as we all have a bias (even me!) and do some homework outside of here as well before deciding.
Like with everything on here all a matter of perspective. All things considered the walk from DL to VDH is not bad at all. The pool at VDH is superior to the one at VGC but then some people love having their balconies which largely aren’t available at VDH. The VGC rooms definitely need their refurb though, IMO they’re in worse shape than AKVs and are later on the refurb schedule but I’m sure will turn out great regardless.

I will admit if there’s any chance that you’ll use the points somewhat regularly at Aulani or Disney World VDH may be the way to go because then you’ll get direct and be able to use the points anywhere and you won’t be hit with the higher VDH transient taxes. I think the ToT just left a sour taste for DVC members when already paired with somewhat high dues.

But yeah, like I said everything is in the eye of the beholder. Some people LOVE OKW and want to stay there every time, and then you have people like me who will probably never spend our points there again. People love to hate on Riviera and yet we love it. VDH and VGC, more of the same.
 
My suggestion....do some research outside of Disboards as well. There is a heavy anti VDH, pro GCV contingent here. It's Kanye West/taylor swift...""Yo, VDH I'm really happy for you, I'mma let you finish, but GCV is the best DVC hotel of all time! "
It's me 🙋‍♀️ .. Im the anti VDH its a long walk person. I dont think it's fair to compare it to WDW because it's not WDW. I wouldn't say I am biased since I currently do not own any DVC officially. All my experiences have been staying on cash. As a non owner having stayed at both VDH and VGC I just give my personal opinion of VDH. It isnt something I would ever sink that much money into, thats why my original response said stay before buying. I thought I would love it and didn't, Id be sick if I had bought in then went and didn't love it and had major regret every time I walked past VGC on my visits.
 
Dlr is definitely not wdw. Different park visitng patterns for sure. That's the dlr affords is the ability to do what only can be remotely done with beach club and epcot.

Vdh right now for 1 and 2br is okay being sold at 25%. The studio heav3y allotment will catch up as families who bought in grow and want those 1 and 2 br demands. While vgc has a great balance and reasonable availability of those point sucking stays.

Large purchases for sure the math pencils out be nicely. Not everyone have 1900 pt portfolios 🥰

I would love vdh, alas families loves vgc more.
 
It's me 🙋‍♀️ .. Im the anti VDH its a long walk person. I dont think it's fair to compare it to WDW because it's not WDW. I wouldn't say I am biased since I currently do not own any DVC officially. All my experiences have been staying on cash. As a non owner having stayed at both VDH and VGC I just give my personal opinion of VDH. It isnt something I would ever sink that much money into, thats why my original response said stay before buying. I thought I would love it and didn't, Id be sick if I had bought in then went and didn't love it and had major regret every time I walked past VGC on my visits.
I didn't single you out, believe me there are lots more who have complained about the "long" walk. I think it's totally fair to compare WDW to DLR when it comes to walking distance, especially when those complaining frequent DLR and WDW. No one complains about the .3 mile walk from the bungalows to the Monorail station (in the florida heat and humidity), but the aprox .5 mile walk from DLH to the front gate of DL is the worst thing on earth...it's so long! :D The self parking at GCV can put you 1/4 mile away from the hotel if you're stuck at the furthest end of the lot, then you have to cross Disneyland Drive, never a peep about that though. Wonder where you guys are going to park though when that gets dug up for Disneyland Forward....maybe the new garage over where the self park at DLH is!
 
Large purchases for sure the math pencils out be nicely. Not everyone have 1900 pt portfolios 🥰
We didn't start out that way....400ish at Aulani and 600 at VDH, and then addonitis quickly got a hold of us. We're done though (although maybe a few more hundred resale at VDH if they come down a bit more)
 
We didn't start out that way....400ish at Aulani and 600 at VDH, and then addonitis quickly got a hold of us. We're done though (although maybe a few more hundred resale at VDH if they come down a bit more)
For sure. We started with 50. That became 250 then 500 then 800 and now busted 1000 between aul and vgc.

Eventually we will add vdh resale when disneyforward matures and we make access to their duos for no kid/family stays.

When comparing distance, we don't compare across the coast. We compare to what's on the ground in front of us. Walking by vgc to mickey pals, we were seriously in love with vgc. The psychology of the parking is strong.

I'm banking that they will convert the open lot between vgc/vdh/Pixar into a garage and entry point for all three hotels and convention centers and valet dtd/club 33. And make that the grand hook for Disney hotel bubble
 
I did some calculations and what I came up with is VDH 150 pts current member incentives (not MB just welcome home and pp discounts) is 2432 per year once TOT is factored in. The contract I just got accepted for VGC is 2294 per year. This is a pretty hefty difference when you consider the extra years added to VDH to average out per year costs.

I do concede VGC point charts are more so theres that. I still don't think VDH is worth it because of TOT and if/when sold it becomes restricted thus potentially being worth less.
 



















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