And your oscar winners are.

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

Stupid to bring politics into it. Ratings down again, another 20%. When you bring one political lean into it (Don't remember anything criticizing Dems), you lose a large segment of audience that would probably otherwise tune in. Just stupid.

Oh so ratings are down because politics were just brought into it? Remember Brando sending a Native American to the stage to refuse his Oscar for the Godfather?

Perhaps you missed the politics injected into Hollywood in the 40s and the 50s by the Committee on Unamerican activities?

Perhaps you missed Redgrave in 78 or Richard Gere in 93. Sarandon and Robbins in 98,

To claim that politics is anything new in the Oscars ignores history.

No. Politics isn't anything new in the Oscars. It has always been there.

Further, if someone can't possibly watch the Oscars because someone might say something of a political persuasion they aren't well that person must have a very thin skin indeed. As for me, I hardly ever watch the Oscars. I can watch the good parts the next day or two and I can watch it without all the commercials.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

Likes infinity! Ha!

I’m sorry about the Likes comment @Cannot_Wait_4Disney. It’s more a reflection of me. I’ve never embraced Likes. I’m not on FaceBook or any other social media that uses them. It just always seemed a little cliquish or childish to me. (Again, I know that’s just me, and not how most people view them.) Up till now, I think I’ve only Liked Moderator posts! If a post interests me, I just reply or do nothing but think about it. Cheers!

No problem. I didn't take any offense. I just wanted to put in the you like me clip. That never gets old.

 

[moon]

Fox creams CNN and MSNBC.

Rachel Maddow Surges To Become The #1 Show On Cable TV

“The Rachel Maddow Show” surged in the ratings this past week. The popular political opinion show that airs on MSNBC weeknights at 9 pm has enjoyed ratings success for several months. This new surge took the show to the top of cable network shows at that hour, surpassing Fox News Channel’s show with Sean Hannity.

https://www.tvovermind.com/entertainment-news/rachel-maddow-surges-become-1-show-cable-tv

 

[Dancind]

The Oscars are must see TV for me, every year. But then I love movies. I am thankful though, for Tivo and being able to FF through commercials and some of the more boring speeches.

Wonder if Black Panther will get any noms next year? Saw it today. I know Marvel movies tend not to, but it was pretty darn good.

 

[rickybobby]

Rachel Maddow Surges To Become The #1 Show On Cable TV

“The Rachel Maddow Show” surged in the ratings this past week. The popular political opinion show that airs on MSNBC weeknights at 9 pm has enjoyed ratings success for several months. This new surge took the show to the top of cable network shows at that hour, surpassing Fox News Channel’s show with Sean Hannity.

https://www.tvovermind.com/entertainment-news/rachel-maddow-surges-become-1-show-cable-tv

http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/basic-cable-ranker-week-of-feb-26/358931

 

[rickybobby]

Oh so ratings are down because politics were just brought into it? Remember Brando sending a Native American to the stage to refuse his Oscar for the Godfather?

Perhaps you missed the politics injected into Hollywood in the 40s and the 50s by the Committee on Unamerican activities?

Perhaps you missed Redgrave in 78 or Richard Gere in 93. Sarandon and Robbins in 98,

To claim that politics is anything new in the Oscars ignores history.

No. Politics isn't anything new in the Oscars. It has always been there.

Further, if someone can't possibly watch the Oscars because someone might say something of a political persuasion they aren't well that person must have a very thin skin indeed. As for me, I hardly ever watch the Oscars. I can watch the good parts the next day or two and I can watch it without all the commercials.

Stupid is as stupid does.

 

[JaxDad]

I don't watch the Oscars or really much TV at all. However, I wonder if ratings numbers have been properly adjusted for alternative viewing habits, such as internet streaming? Similarly, the numbers were kind of inflated in the old days since there were only 3-4 networks, and, as previous posters have noted, I doubt the others put their "good" stuff up against something like the Oscars.

Regarding the tribute section, did it include Frank Vincent? He was type cast as a mob guy, and played the roles very well. I was watching Casino last night and while web searching stuff about the movie found out he died in 2017.

 

[moon]

http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/basic-cable-ranker-week-of-feb-26/358931

Excuse me, but I believe this is March?

 

[wvjules]

It would make sense to me that Fox"News" is a higher rated cable news channel than MSNBC or CNN. It is the only mainstream cable conservative channel. Whereas MSNBC and CNN split their audience between them.

 

[LSUmiss]

It would make sense to me that Fox"News" is a higher rated cable news channel than MSNBC or CNN. It is the only mainstream cable conservative channel. Whereas MSNBC and CNN split their audience between them.

Also, just like has been mentioned for the Oscars & other TV, younger ppl & other demographics don’t get their news that way anyway. I don’t have time to sit around & watch cable news. I get mine from the internet & radio all day long while on the go. And I’m by no means considered “younger”....just younger than the demographic who typically watches cable news all day.

 

[Hrhpd]

Stupid to bring politics into it. Ratings down again, another 20%. When you bring one political lean into it (Don't remember anything criticizing Dems), you lose a large segment of audience that would probably otherwise tune in. Just stupid.

This sounds remarkably like a very recent tweet

To not appreciate someone's talent because they disagree with you on politics is what is just stupid. The only audience they are losing are those that are stuck in some childish hatred without the adult ability to listen and then make their own decisions.

I love country music, but country is filled with just as hateful tweets, speeches, artist web pages, etc against the politics I lean towards. Yet, I will laugh at the speeches (from both sides) and take it all in stride. What is that old saying "keep your friends close and your enemies closer."

I can never understand some people's unwillingness to hear the other side. How can you be so sure of your own position on anything and be able to defend it constructively if you have absolutely no idea what 66% of the population is talking about? And this goes for anything, not just politics.

In an example pertinent to these boards, take the tiresome WDW vs Universal argument. You have people who have never been to Universal, so have no idea what it is about, yet bash it and profess they will never, ever step foot in it. That is childish because they are just spouting the latest article, quote, tweet they read or they just "think" they hate Universal without any experience. Those are people I cannot respect.

I respect people who have tried both (listened to both) and can say "I don't like Universal because xyz, giving examples of experiences they had. Same as watching shows. How in the world can anyone say "That is trash, I don't like the politics" when they don't even watch? THAT is what is stupid.

 

[Chirple]

On topic, I loved The Shape of Water. I saw 4 of the 8 pictures nominated, and I felt they were all deserving--Lady Bird, Get Out, Dunkirk, and The Shape of Water.

I was thrilled that Jordan Peele won for Get Out's original screenplay and Guillermo del Toro for his directing (also loved Pan's Labyrinth). I was disappointed that This is Me did not win, and I did feel it was purposely placed as the last song performed because I think it is an empowering piece of music--for anyone.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

.....

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

This sounds remarkably like a very recent tweet

To not appreciate someone's talent because they disagree with you on politics is what is just stupid. The only audience they are losing are those that are stuck in some childish hatred without the adult ability to listen and then make their own decisions.

I love country music, but country is filled with just as hateful tweets, speeches, artist web pages, etc against the politics I lean towards. Yet, I will laugh at the speeches (from both sides) and take it all in stride. What is that old saying "keep your friends close and your enemies closer."

I can never understand some people's unwillingness to hear the other side. How can you be so sure of your own position on anything and be able to defend it constructively if you have absolutely no idea what 66% of the population is talking about? And this goes for anything, not just politics.

In an example pertinent to these boards, take the tiresome WDW vs Universal argument. You have people who have never been to Universal, so have no idea what it is about, yet bash it and profess they will never, ever step foot in it. That is childish because they are just spouting the latest article, quote, tweet they read or they just "think" they hate Universal without any experience. Those are people I cannot respect.

I respect people who have tried both (listened to both) and can say "I don't like Universal because xyz, giving examples of experiences they had. Same as watching shows. How in the world can anyone say "That is trash, I don't like the politics" when they don't even watch? THAT is what is stupid.

I think about it and if I refused to listen to Third Day or 10,000 maniacs based upon what religion or political bent or whatever other reason given to me to hate em, it would be me that would be the lesser for it. The Hate Hollywood crowd is hurting themselves more than they're hurting the targets of their hatred. How many movies would I miss out on if I went and researched the politics of every actor in it and required the main stars to agree with me?

 

[Hikergirl]

I think about it and if I refused to listen to Third Day or 10,000 maniacs based upon what religion or political bent or whatever other reason given to me to hate em, it would be me that would be the lesser for it. The Hate Hollywood crowd is hurting themselves more than they're hurting the targets of their hatred. How many movies would I miss out on if I went and researched the politics of every actor in it and required the main stars to agree with me?

I can appreciate the acting talent, or singing, or art or whatever from someone no matter their poltical leaning. If I am going to tune into a show that "celebrates" that talent, especially a 4 hour show I don't want to be preached to about your political leaning, or whatever cause you've jumped on to further your publicity.
Save that for an interview about THOSE things. If you want to turn your Oscar win into a political rant speech, then why bother having the Oscars just make it a 4 hour political rally where you can dress up and have your self congratulation party for your politics.
They are entertainers, some viewers want to be entertained it is a nice escape from all the crap going on in the world. If entertainment is going to turn political then it ceases to entertain.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

On topic, I loved The Shape of Water. I saw 4 of the 8 pictures nominated, and I felt they were all deserving--Lady Bird, Get Out, Dunkirk, and The Shape of Water.

I was thrilled that Jordan Peele won for Get Out's original screenplay and Guillermo del Toro for his directing (also loved Pan's Labyrinth). I was disappointed that This is Me did not win, and I did feel it was purposely placed as the last song performed because I think it is an empowering piece of music--for anyone.

I liked it too and thought it should win best picture. I thought going in Lady Bird was the kind of movie that gets nominations but just doesn't win most of the time. I liked it but it wasn't on the same level imo as some of the others. I didn't think this would be a year where one movie just sweeps everything.

 

[rickybobby]

Excuse me, but I believe this is March?

Excuse me back, but my original post said Fox News is no 1 in Cable News. Then another poster brought out one episode of one show as the winner for that night.

 

[okeydokey]

Stupid to bring politics into it. Ratings down again, another 20%. When you bring one political lean into it (Don't remember anything criticizing Dems), you lose a large segment of audience that would probably otherwise tune in. Just stupid.

Ratings are down for pretty much everything these days. Folks stream stuff now, so generally the traditional shows (awards, sports, etc) all have declining ratings.

 

[rickybobby]

Ratings are down for pretty much everything these days. Folks stream stuff now, so generally the traditional shows (awards, sports, etc) all have declining ratings.

My point is a common sense point. If you have a show that is about entertainment, it is only common sense that you will alienate a large portion of your possible audience by ridiculing one political party, while shunning anyone that wants to give a different view.

 

[okeydokey]

My point is a common sense point. If you have a show that is about entertainment, it is only common sense that you will alienate a large portion of your possible audience by ridiculing one political party, while shunning anyone that wants to give a different view.

Yeah, but I don’t think they care. Honestly the detractors get way more worked up about these things than the entertainers. They all had a great night.