...And Then Scotty Happened. A Hawaiian Adventure (CHAPTER 32 Added 5/23--THE END)

Our first stop was a few miles down the road at the Kilauea Bakery, not far from the lighthouse we’d visited the previous day.
I aaas gonna asked if it was stocked and a pot head was running it but you answered that.
It’s been so long now I can’t remember what everybody had, but I remember this being a quality stop for coffee and pastries, with the added bonus that they actually stocked all of the items displayed on their menu.
See. :rolleyes:

Obviously, you’d do this:

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Hey, it may be low-budget, but it worked.
You should bring this idea home and save those Delaware residents millions of dollars- then run for office.

That is, when you can see it.
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…And then Dave happened.

What happened to the …And then Scotty happened?'s?:confused3

Much of the mountain’s west side is restricted property, owned by the U.S. Military. I don’t want to speculate as to what kinds of installations reside under the rock or within the mountain itself, but some locals have named the area “Ka-Boom Mountain.” So take that for what it’s worth.
:lmao::lmao:



We finally made it to the end of the road. We climbed out of our car, walked to the edge, and paused for a moment to savor the view, and our good fortune in being present in that place to witness it. Ladies and gentlemen (and Tim),
Hey I got a shout out!!!! :woohoo:

…wait a sec… what r u trying to say? :confused3

I give you the stunning Kalalau Valley on the Na Pali Coast:

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amazing!

You just don’t get to see sights like that every day, do you? Obviously, this wasn’t our day. If you would like to know what this view should actually look like, I invite you to check out podsnel’s Hawaii TR here.
Ooooooh, so that's what is supposed to look like! Beautiful! :thumbsup2

We drove back down the way we came and stopped again at the canyon overlooks, just to see if the view had improved at all. We took a halfhearted look and—hey, what’s this? Is that actual color?

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So it wasn't all doom and gloom? :rotfl2:

Coming Up Next: It’s been a while since we visited a unique burger joint, don’t you think?
::yes::

I think we've gone like 3-4 posts without burgers. SLACKER! :sad2:
 
I aaas gonna asked if it was stocked and a pot head was running it but you answered that.

See. :rolleyes:

I like to make you guys work a little extra harder on the snarky commentary by catching the obvious jokes first. :thumbsup2

You should bring this idea home and save those Delaware residents millions of dollars- then run for office.

I work for the government. The people in charge have absolutely no interest in saving money whatsoever. :sad2:

…And then Dave happened.

What happened to the …And then Scotty happened?'s?:confused3

Scotty seems to have run out of steam here. We should be thankful Dave was picking up the slack.

Hey I got a shout out!!!! :woohoo:

…wait a sec… what r u trying to say? :confused3

Nothing, I just needed somebody to make fun of. I would have gone after Barry, but he hasn't commented in a while. :rolleyes1


We traveled 6,000 miles to see that fog!

Ooooooh, so that's what is supposed to look like! Beautiful! :thumbsup2

Some people have all the luck.

So it wasn't all doom and gloom? :rotfl2:

I'd say only 58% gloom.

::yes::

I think we've gone like 3-4 posts without burgers. SLACKER! :sad2:

Yikes, we'd better make up for that quickly! Sorry, I hadn't realized it had been so long.
 
It’s been so long now I can’t remember what everybody had, but I remember this being a quality stop for coffee and pastries, with the added bonus that they actually stocked all of the items displayed on their menu.
Well, isn't that a nice surprise.

I couldn’t help but wonder who the poor sap was whose job was to get up at 4 a.m. and place every single one of these orange cones for miles…and then have to go pick them up again later in the day. It’s a living, I guess.
Gotta make those DOT employees do something to earn their pay. :rolleyes1

Now if you’ll indulge me, let me set the Wayback Machine to the distant past of the previous day. Remember those beautiful clear pictures of the Kauai mountains? The abundant sunshine? In a place that receives rain over 90% of the year, that sure looked like it would have been a great day to go up the mountain, wouldn’t you say?
Who planned this trip, anyway? :confused3 :crazy2:

I only mention this so I can post this picture of the kids shunning each other at the overlook.
Never has there been a more "real" family vacation picture. :rotfl2::lmao::rotfl:

Nobody likes a quitter, so we forged on ahead. At the next overlook, we found a nice couple from Pennsylvania who offered to take a family picture for us in this spectacular location. Christmas card?
Pretty bad when the haze is so bad that it begins to obscure the people standing 8 feet away. :crazy2:

I don’t want to speculate as to what kinds of installations reside under the rock or within the mountain itself, but some locals have named the area “Ka-Boom Mountain.” So take that for what it’s worth.
Sounds like a fun place to me! :thumbsup2

Ladies and gentlemen (and Tim)
:rotfl::lmao::rotfl2:

Wild goats
Ok... that settles it. If I can learn to enjoy the taste of goat meat, I think I could manage to pull off a budget trip to Hawaii. Between Extra Crispy, Original, the wild hogs and the wild goats, you could eat like a king. :rolleyes1
 
You wouldn’t think of Kauai as a place where you would need to worry about rush hour traffic. But there is only one main highway connecting all of the towns on the island, so unfortunately it is a concern

Ahhhh… all the comforts of home
But, it’s still in Hawaii so it still wins


This meant we would need an early wake-up call. So we set the rooster alarm for approximately 5 a.m., and the little punk worked like a charm.

:lmao:
I thought y’all had rooster sandwiches with pineapple aioli the night before?
Obviously they skewered the wrong bird.


Our first stop was a few miles down the road at the Kilauea Bakery, not far from the lighthouse we’d visited the previous day. It’s been so long now I can’t remember what everybody had, but I remember this being a quality stop for coffee and pastries, with the added bonus that they actually stocked all of the items displayed on their menu.

Yes, but were the clerks stoned out of their minds?
You know we have very high standards for entertainment and service ‘round here
And once a president has been set…


This seems like a good time to ask you to play Amateur Highway Engineer.

I don’t know…
What’s the starting salary and benefits like?


And while it was slightly disconcerting for me to be driving on the left side of a double-yellow line…

You could have been driving in a former Brit. Colony rather than a US state …
Then everything would have been completely backwards.


I couldn’t help but wonder who the poor sap was whose job was to get up at 4 a.m. and place every single one of these orange cones for miles…and then have to go pick them up again later in the day. It’s a living, I guess.

A living in Hawaii…
Still beats my current position of employment.


Given the heavy rainfall the area receives and Kauai’s famous rust-colored dirt, the colors and scenery are particularly eye-catching.

That is, when you can see it.

There always seems to be a catch doesn’t there?
Either you can’t see the scenery for the weather or you were just forced by circumstance to
steal a fist full of cash from an unsympathetic clerk that wouldn’t take a check and now
you certainly don’t have time to enjoy the view… Ya’ know, It always something.


Wai’ale’ale gets rain a stunning 335 – 360 days out of the year.

The “Old Faithful” of rain.


The kids had been arguing over something in the car, and as all arguments between kids go, I’m sure it was over something extremely important and relevant to the well-being of the human race.

“Will you stop touching me!”
“Get off my side of the seat!”
“They’re looking out my Window!”


I only mention this so I can post this picture of the kids shunning each other at the overlook. I did resist the urge to utter the immortal Dad line in the car: “Stop or we’re turning around and going home!”

A herculean effort on your part to be sure…


Dave continued his attempts to win the Goofball Trophy.

Ah yes, the “Kilroy” pose; a classic in the pantheon of Goofballdom.


We walked up the short path to the lookout to take in the deep, blazing colors of the Grand Canyon of the Pacific:

OK… it may not be “blazing”, but it’s certainly still quite stunning.


We were baffled as to why fish ponds on the Big Island merited National Park status while this place was relegated to being a mere state park.

Now that… that there is a dang good question.
I’d be curious as to the politics which resulted in this particular disparity of designation.
Money and power were surely involved, but just to what extent they figured might make
for an interesting story.


Nobody likes a quitter,

Unless it’s the rain that happens to be quitting


At the next overlook, we found a nice couple from Pennsylvania who offered to take a family picture for us in this spectacular location. Christmas card?

Ok, this is just getting ridiculous. Our situation has not improved.

Well at least the castle isn’t burning down around you.


You just don’t get to see sights like that every day, do you?

Nope…
The weather has to be truly awful to take in stuff like that. :lmao:

Sorry it was a bit of a bust visually, but experiences are still the reason we travel.
Heck, they’re the reason we live.

And as usual, you still have a great story.
And…



The trip back down from the heights did yield better results.
That image right there is Christmas card worthy.
 

Well, isn't that a nice surprise.

It's the little things.

Gotta make those DOT employees do something to earn their pay. :rolleyes1

Pay? We get paid? Did I miss something?

Who planned this trip, anyway? :confused3 :crazy2:

Some moron. I'll never trust that guy again.

Never has there been a more "real" family vacation picture. :rotfl2::lmao::rotfl:

We aim for accuracy in reporting. :thumbsup2

Pretty bad when the haze is so bad that it begins to obscure the people standing 8 feet away. :crazy2:

Wait, there are people in that picture?!

Sounds like a fun place to me! :thumbsup2

Until somebody lights a match.

Ok... that settles it. If I can learn to enjoy the taste of goat meat, I think I could manage to pull off a budget trip to Hawaii. Between Extra Crispy, Original, the wild hogs and the wild goats, you could eat like a king. :rolleyes1

I don't know how common the goats are, but you could eat for a long time on the chickens running around.
 
Ahhhh… all the comforts of home
But, it’s still in Hawaii so it still wins

Pretty much, yeah.

:lmao:
I thought y’all had rooster sandwiches with pineapple aioli the night before?
Obviously they skewered the wrong bird.

I guess we'll just have to keep trying.

Yes, but were the clerks stoned out of their minds?
You know we have very high standards for entertainment and service ‘round here
And once a president has been set…

If they were, they hid it well. It was early in the morning, too.

I don’t know…
What’s the starting salary and benefits like?

For a highway engineer? It doesn't matter if it's "starting" or not, you ain't gonna like the numbers.

You could have been driving in a former Brit. Colony rather than a US state …
Then everything would have been completely backwards.

I see what you did there...

A living in Hawaii…
Still beats my current position of employment.

But have you seen the cost of groceries?!

There always seems to be a catch doesn’t there?
Either you can’t see the scenery for the weather or you were just forced by circumstance to
steal a fist full of cash from an unsympathetic clerk that wouldn’t take a check and now
you certainly don’t have time to enjoy the view… Ya’ know, It always something.

This sounds suspiciously like a movie quote, but I'm coming up empty.

The “Old Faithful” of rain.

Only not as photogenic.

“Will you stop touching me!”
“Get off my side of the seat!”
“They’re looking out my Window!”

That NEVER happens in our car. ;)

A herculean effort on your part to be sure…

Well, it was a long drive back home.

Ah yes, the “Kilroy” pose; a classic in the pantheon of Goofballdom.

:thumbsup2

OK… it may not be “blazing”, but it’s certainly still quite stunning.

It would have been even better if we could have seen it all!

Now that… that there is a dang good question.
I’d be curious as to the politics which resulted in this particular disparity of designation.
Money and power were surely involved, but just to what extent they figured might make
for an interesting story.

It just matters which lobbyist catches which ear at the right time.

Unless it’s the rain that happens to be quitting

True story.

Well at least the castle isn’t burning down around you.

+1:thumbsup2

Nope…
The weather has to be truly awful to take in stuff like that. :lmao:

But at least we traveled 6,000 miles to see the fog.

Sorry it was a bit of a bust visually, but experiences are still the reason we travel.
Heck, they’re the reason we live.

And as usual, you still have a great story.

And a reason to go back.

And…




The trip back down from the heights did yield better results.
That image right there is Christmas card worthy.

This one was definitely in the running!:thumbsup2
 
This sounds suspiciously like a movie quote, but I'm coming up empty.

Homage rather than quote…
A bit of a nod to the way Clark ended up experiencing the Biggest Hole in the World


(Don’t over think it… I ain’t all that smart ya’ know.)


That NEVER happens in our car. ;)

Oh of course not… goes without saying. :lmao:


But at least we traveled 6,000 miles to see the fog.

And you’d do it again in a skinny minute if you could.
 
Homage rather than quote…
A bit of a nod to the way Clark ended up experiencing the Biggest Hole in the World


(Don’t over think it… I ain’t all that smart ya’ know.)

Ah, I get it. I did indeed overthink that one. :sad2:

Oh of course not… goes without saying. :lmao:

:rolleyes1

And you’d do it again in a skinny minute if you could.

Well, I might pay attention to the forecasts a little more.
 
Too bad that you didn't get to enjoy the canyon in all of it's colorful beauty. Still looks pretty nice to me, though. Ha, nice lane dividers on that highway. :rotfl:
 
Too bad that you didn't get to enjoy the canyon in all of it's colorful beauty. Still looks pretty nice to me, though. Ha, nice lane dividers on that highway. :rotfl:

We did the best we could. I was glad the clouds at least cleared a bit later in the morning.
 
We interrupt this Trip Report to talk a bit about future vacation planning. Mostly because I wanted to ask my dear readers' opinion over whether or not to add thousands of dollars of expenses to the end of trip.

We really racked our brains trying to come up with a trip that we could do this summer with a baby. We are still trying to get to all 50 states, and the older kids have already done the east coast. The clock is ticking before Sarah has to start worrying about summer jobs and college expenses, so felt a strong pull to keep trying to explore new places while we still can. But most of the places we have left to explore are out west, and there are long distances between places of interest out west.

Naturally, the longer the drive, the less likely you are to go without incident when traveling with a baby. Add in the need to stop every 2-3 hours for feedings, and western trips become more difficult.

We looked hard at several options. We looked at the Upper Midwest--specifically Mt. Rushmore and the Black Hills (somebody, and I won't mention who, really wanted to hold baby Drew up in just the right way to get his mug alongside the Presidents on Rushmore). But the Black Hills are a long drive from just about everywhere. We tried to make it work, but no matter how we planned it, there were going to be at least two 8+hour driving days.

Same with Texas. Big Bend National Park just isn't close to anything, and it's not something we would want to cut out of the trip.

We finally found some fairly cheap rates on airfare to Las Vegas. We're not into casinos and gambling at all, but as we planned, we realized that it made for a good starting point for a tour of the Southwest. Many of drives between points of interest only amounted to 2-4 hours, which felt more feasible to us. So we ended up pulling the trigger, and we're spending 11 days in the American Southwest. In late July. Because when you think of late July, you naturally want to visit the desert.

I can write more about our plans later, but we're looking at visiting Hoover Dam, Bryce Canyon N.P., Zion N.P. the Grand Canyon, and Phoenix, AZ.

The question comes near the end of the trip. We were looking at spending a couple of days relaxing at a resort in Phoenix to rest up after some longer drives. Then we were going to swing west through Joshua Tree N.P. in California and the Mojave Desert National Preserve.

But then we got to thinking...(and you probably know where this is heading).

Google Maps says Joshua Tree N.P. is only 1 hour, 45 minutes from Anaheim, CA (discounting L.A. traffic, of course).

Rumor has it there is a popular tourist destination located in Anaheim.

So...do we try and get to Disneyland?

On the plus side, we're already going to be very close. We are, of course, Disney geeks, and would love to see the original Disney park. We wouldn't have to go very far out of our way on this trip to get there. And I'm sure the kids would be thrilled. I also think it would make for a better end to the vacation than 2 days in the desert.

On the downside, we don't have Julie's 2nd income anymore thanks to baby Drew. So the extra money that funded Hawaii has gone away. Disney, as you may have heard, is very expensive, especially because they get most of their money up front. So a 1-day or 2-day ticket doesn't save you much. It's going to be July, and hot, and crowded. And we'll have to do a lot of child swaps on rides with the baby.

We got good prices on airfare and a rental van, so I'm reluctant to change the dates on the trip. We can make it work if we cut our stay in Phoenix short by a day or two. But it's still an expensive add-on, even staying at the cheapest Good Neighbor Hotel I can find. We might only be able to afford a 1-day ticket. Is it worth going if we have to skip a park? It feels like it's on the edge of what we think we can afford.

On the other hand, it's not easy for us to get to California from Delaware. It feels like we'd be missing an opportunity by being so close and not taking the time to go. And of course we have a desire to go, since...well, it's Disney.

So I figured I'd post this note here and see what you think? Is it worth the extra expense? Or are we just setting ourselves up for an expensive, hot, crowded experience?
 
Evidently I read this update on my phone and then didn't comment as I don't like commenting from the phone due to weird auto correct responses.

Even if it was cloudy, the canyon was very beautiful. At least it cleared a little later in the day.

That rooster would have really annoyed me. But I guess it served it's purpose for this day.
 
Go. To. Disneyland.

I will hook you up. Sarah needs to visit Walt's park before she starts to have adult responsibilities. If you have questions about Vegas, I can help with some of that. We do like to gamble, but we've been going to Vegas for years and one can't spend all day gambling.

Have you looked into Red Rock canyon? I know the baby can't do a lot of hiking, but there are picnic areas, places for kids to burn off steam and it certainly a beautiful place to enjoy a PB&J.

There's a great Titanic Exhibit at the Luxor, they have "the big piece" , a chunk of the side of the ship which will put anyone in awe. The whole exhibit is quite well done, taking the viewer through cabins where guests would have stayed amd even the climates they would have felt on deck.

At the MGM Grand there is a CSI experience where you become the Tech and try to find clues amd analyze what happened. Kind of geeky, but we had fun doing it. There's tons of non gambling stuff to do there.
 
Hmmmm, I wonder what a forum full of Disney park lovers will say about whether or not your Disney-loving family should go to a Disney park on your vacation? :rolleyes1 :confused3 :rotfl2: :lmao:

Ha, anyway, I actually have thoughts on several points here:

We really racked our brains trying to come up with a trip that we could do this summer with a baby. We are still trying to get to all 50 states, and the older kids have already done the east coast. The clock is ticking before Sarah has to start worrying about summer jobs and college expenses, so felt a strong pull to keep trying to explore new places while we still can. But most of the places we have left to explore are out west, and there are long distances between places of interest out west.
Well, depending on what states you've done, you could hit up the Four Corners Monument to knock out four within minutes. It's still quite a drive from Vegas, though.

Naturally, the longer the drive, the less likely you are to go without incident when traveling with a baby. Add in the need to stop every 2-3 hours for feedings, and western trips become more difficult.
The nice thing about being in the areas you're talking about (i.e. the national parks, etc.) is that you can pull off onto a scenic overlook or something every time you need to feed the baby, so you'd at least have a nice view.

We looked hard at several options. We looked at the Upper Midwest--specifically Mt. Rushmore and the Black Hills (somebody, and I won't mention who, really wanted to hold baby Drew up in just the right way to get his mug alongside the Presidents on Rushmore). But the Black Hills are a long drive from just about everywhere. We tried to make it work, but no matter how we planned it, there were going to be at least two 8+hour driving days.
I lived in Rapid City, SD for a few years and would be happy to help on anything related to a trip out that way. In fact, whenever I had a free weekend day, I used to pull out my atlas and find somewhere within a couple hours that I hadn't been, then go there. So I've seen a few things in the area. And there are a lot of things to do there, but you're absolutely correct that there is nothing nearby. I found it quite surprising that I was told when I moved there that if the locals wanted to really go shopping, they went to Denver. Yep, Denver. 5-6 hour drive, if I remember right.

I can write more about our plans later, but we're looking at visiting Hoover Dam, Bryce Canyon N.P., Zion N.P. the Grand Canyon, and Phoenix, AZ.
I did a solo driving trip in my 20's through this area (and more) and had a national park pass for it. I LOVED Bryce Canyon N.P. One of my favorites for sure. Just beautiful. I know you want to stick near your home base, but if you feel like venturing out a bit further, Arches N.P. is also very cool. And, if you get out there, the Colorado National Monument isn't too much further and I was awed by that too. Lots of great choices in the area for sure. (I still need to go to the Grand Canyon, as I drove down a long and windy road to it that had a sign saying the entrance was open, got all the way to the gate, and it was closed. I didn't have time after that to find another way in that was actually open. :sad:)

So...do we try and get to Disneyland?

So I figured I'd post this note here and see what you think? Is it worth the extra expense? Or are we just setting ourselves up for an expensive, hot, crowded experience?
I've spent two days of my life in Disneyland. One was when I was 16 and the other was in 2006. You can do a satisfactory job of seeing DL in one day. Especially if you zero in on the can't-do-this-at-WDW things while you're there. Not only the rides WDW doesn't have (Alice in Wonderland, Mr. Toad, Indiana Jones, Matterhorn, etc.), but also the ones that are different and "better" at DL (Pirates and Space Mountain, at least). Of course, I haven't been to CA Adventure and Cars Land does look awesome. But, if you can skip that and feel okay about it (and my understanding is the rest of the park isn't particularly amazing), then you might be able to just do 1-day tickets. Look into discounts (I found some through work) or at least buy tickets with discounted Disney Gift Cards from Target or somewhere to save a few bucks.

Regarding crowds, I know that DL tends to have different crowd levels than WDW, due to the influx of locals on weekends and holidays. So, if you'll be there on a weekday, it may not be so bad, even in summer? :confused3

The nice thing about DL is that you have a lot of decent and affordable hotels within a short walking distance of the park entrances. I have heard a lot of good things about the Howard Johnson's there, actually.

For us, when we were thinking of making a trip out there, a big expense vs. WDW was the transportation because of no free Magical Express. However, since you'll already have a vehicle, that's not a concern, so that helps a bit.

If you think you can swing it and be happy with it, I'd go. However, if you don't think so, I'd highly recommend doing a CA/OR/WA coastline trip someday (if you haven't yet). It could easily be part of that and the drive up Highway 1 is amazing (especially northern CA and the redwoods).

Good luck with your vacation planning! :goodvibes
 
I always like to throw in Denver and RMNP as possibilities...lots of fun stuff to do here in the summer.

But, listen to Alison, 'nuf said. You have to go to DL once and this seems like a perfect time to do it.

Jill in CO
 
well duh to Disneyland...

In all seriousness, if you can swing it like the suggestions were, you can do it. The Good neighbor hotels and you can get a lot done in 1 day make it possible.

The NP plans look awesome so if a Disney can creep in great, if it puts too much stress on the wallet or travelling with a baby then it might have to wait. :confused3
 
We interrupt this Trip Report to talk a bit about future vacation planning. Mostly because I wanted to ask my dear readers' opinion over whether or not to add thousands of dollars of expenses to the end of trip.

I have been to a few of the places on your post, good choices. We plan on going to few of the others on your post also good choices.

But hands down do Disneyland. When we go, we plan for at least 2 days in DL and 1 in CA. Really, you could spend a day in Car's Land alone. Well maybe. :rolleyes1
 
You HAVE to visit DL- it is the Mothership. HAVE to go- it is so special, and like you said, who knows when you will get out there again? There are some VERY good rates at the partner hotels- you HAVE to go-

You know this already, right?;)
 
A Southwest trip you say… Cool!
As usual you’ve got a great initial plan working for you there.
As usual, I’m insanely jealous, but still wish y’all the best in pulling this off.
If any group can, it’s your bunch.

Now then,
to do DL or not to do DL… That is the question.

Silly question.
Ummm… actually, no it’s not that silly.

Like you, the Disney addicted geek in me says: “Pbffft…. of course you go (and for God’s sake, take me with you)”. On the other hand, the dad in me with a young’en in collage and a dwindling possibility of ever seeing retirement says nutty things like: “it’s simple math… if you got the bucks, you go, if you don’t got the bucks… then as much as you want it… it ain’t smart.”

Can you do DL in one day? Of course not.
Is that a reason not to try? Of course not.
You’ll just have to take several cracks at it over a longer period of time
(unless you come back in the future with a dedicated trip).

If you’re going to continue with your goal to hit all of the states (and I’m sure you are), you’ll be back out there in the future (northern CA and Oregon will need to be explored for instance). When that occurs, you get back down to Anaheim and take another crack at it then.

The only real question right now is, are the Benjamins available to pull it off.
I do hope they are. We all deserve to see the Original Land.
Every last one of us.
(If we possibly can that is)
 
Evidently I read this update on my phone and then didn't comment as I don't like commenting from the phone due to weird auto correct responses.

I don't like commenting on the app either. For one thing, all of the apostrophe's and other punctuation marks show up as other letters, which makes it very hard to read.:confused3

Even if it was cloudy, the canyon was very beautiful. At least it cleared a little later in the day.

We can only work with what we have.

That rooster would have really annoyed me. But I guess it served it's purpose for this day.

And I bet his drumsticks were delicious.

Go. To. Disneyland.

Well, yes ma'am!

I will hook you up. Sarah needs to visit Walt's park before she starts to have adult responsibilities.

My goodness. "I will hook you up" appears to be a vast understatement.

If you have questions about Vegas, I can help with some of that. We do like to gamble, but we've been going to Vegas for years and one can't spend all day gambling.

Have you looked into Red Rock canyon? I know the baby can't do a lot of hiking, but there are picnic areas, places for kids to burn off steam and it certainly a beautiful place to enjoy a PB&J.

I did look into the Red Rock canyon drive, but our flight is arriving mid-afternoon local time, so I'm not sure we'll have the time to get out there and enjoy it. We leave the next day for Hoover Dam and then Utah.

There's a great Titanic Exhibit at the Luxor, they have "the big piece" , a chunk of the side of the ship which will put anyone in awe. The whole exhibit is quite well done, taking the viewer through cabins where guests would have stayed amd even the climates they would have felt on deck.

At the MGM Grand there is a CSI experience where you become the Tech and try to find clues amd analyze what happened. Kind of geeky, but we had fun doing it. There's tons of non gambling stuff to do there.

This sounds very cool. But I don't think we're actually going to have much time in Vegas at all. Just a few hours at the beginning and the end of the trip. I'll look this up and see if they'll be convenient to us at all.
 



















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