An interesting look at what happened to the pentagon on 9/11

WHAT A BUNCH OF HOOEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! another pathetic attempt by the Bush bashers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I agree with the video. I want to see the 747 on video. If they want us to believe that a 747 hit the building release that video. I don't just agree with people because they say so. I will decide for myself when it can be proven.
 
Originally posted by ladycollector
I agree with the video. I want to see the 747 on video. If they want us to believe that a 747 hit the building release that video. I don't just agree with people because they say so. I will decide for myself when it can be proven.

Why on earth would airforcerocks and all the other eyewitnesses lie about what hit the building?? All these non-related people are part of some huge conspiracy?

And noone who believes the video has explained where 77 went to. Anyone want to try?
 

Originally posted by ladycollector
I agree with the video. I want to see the 747 on video. If they want us to believe that a 747 hit the building release that video. I don't just agree with people because they say so. I will decide for myself when it can be proven.


(ooo! this should be fun!)

You agree with the video?

Ok, so what happened to the people who made phone calls from flight 77 shortly before "whatever" hit the Pentagon? Was that staged too?

It wasn't a 747, it was a 757 which is much bigger than a 757.

If people could easily make out that it was a 757, they'd have NO trouble identifying a 747.

Me thinks you're tin foil hat needs replacing.
 
Originally posted by maci
:eek:
WOW!!
I always wondered why there wasnt video of that plane crashing like the ones from the world trade center.

The reason there was video of the first trade center attack is because there happened to be a French documentary duo doing a documentary with some firefighters that were in the area and they heard the low flying plane overhead. The 2nd attack was covered because the 1st one had already happened and the media was covering that. That's the reason there is video footage of the attacks in NYC.
 
I know! The "real" plane that crashed into the Pentagon was piloted by Elvis, with Bigfoot as his co-pilot :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by Grog
I know! The "real" plane that crashed into the Pentagon was piloted by Elvis, with Bigfoot as his co-pilot :rolleyes:

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
 
Originally posted by AirForceRocks
I just got back and I'm trying to load it now, but if the gist of the video is that a large commercial airliner didn't hit the Pentagon, then that's just bull.

I SAW the plane hit the building. It wasn't a small plane, and it wasn't a missile. It was a large airliner that was flying low and fast before it hit.

Now I'm getting "cannot find server" for the video, so I'll try again later. But I must say, I can't believe that there are people out there that actually don't believe that Flight 77 hit the Pentagon.

Incredible.

I guess you can't believe your "lying eyes", AFR.;) I think there are some people on this board listening to too much of Art Bell. I have heard that there are actually people who don't think that the holocost happened either. Now I understand why.
 
I have heard that there are actually people who don't think that the holocost happened either.
The "moon landing hoax" people, and their new "a large airliner didn't crash into the Pentagon" friends are mildly amusing. The Holocaust deniers are downright scary.
 
Just watched it. Looked like a bad music video to me. Not impressed.
 
OMG! My mother and brother buy into all of this conspiracy crap and actually bought a cheap dvd with all the supposed "facts". Please people, don't waste you time the way I had to waste mine. I was forced to watch this dvd and spend 2 days compiling pages of info that disputes every claim these nuts make. Don't buy into the crapola!

As a side note, there is actual footage of flight 77 hitting the pentagon. It was on a station in England I believe and they were showing the pentagon while speaking with Barak about what was going on in NYC. In fact, the nuts who blame the jews use that fact to "prove" their point.

Also, as I tell my misguided family members- always look for the source.
 
I would just like to know where the passengers from flight 77 are if they didn't hit the Pentagon?

Since I saw the film in its entirety:rolleyes: They believe that the big bad government either crashed or blew up flight 77 somewhere else and moved their bodies through secret channels to end up at the same place, Dover AFB. They fail to mention that most bodies like this go there because they are specially equipped to deal with such things. They also say the people who "say" they talked to loved ones are lying or being threatened by the government. You'll also be happy to know that the supposed terrorist were sweet innocent young men being set up by the BIG BAD US government, you know so we could go to Afghanistan, so we could go to Iraq and fight the big "war for oil" or dominate the middle east.

These are the main people putting this crap out there:
Eric Hufschmid is an American citizen born in 1955. For the past 12 years, Hufschmid has had a home-business in which he develops CAD/CAM software for machine shops, wood shops, and other CNC machines.
During the first few months of 2002 he sent email to more than 100 American professors and scientists and asked them to look into the suspicious aspects of the September 11th attack, but nobody seemed interested. He decided to write a book about the attack (Painful Questions, An Analysis of the September 11th Attack) after coming to the conclusion that nobody else was going to do it.
He has since decided that the plot to the movie The Matrix was influenced by people involved in these scams. Specifically, most people live in a fantasy world created by the people who conduct these scams, and Hufschmid's book brought him into contact with the small group of people who realize the world is a farce.
The biggest surprise to Hufschmid has been the resistance people have to his book. Most people dismiss it as nonsense without bothering to read even one sentence. Apparently, most people do not want to contaminate their fantasy world with unpleasant issues.

Mathias Brockers has been a famous name in Germany for quite some time now. He was one of the more visible people driving the acceptance of hemp in Germany with the opening of stores selling hemp textiles and pushing German politics into allowing the growing of hemp as it was done one hundred years ago before the big marihuana paranoia was pushed by the alcohol industry.

President of the French leftist organization Reseau Voltaire, Thierry Meyssan, is rising to world-wide recognition as the auteur one of France’s best-selling books: L’Effroyable Imposture (The Frightening Deception). Meyssan claims that the destruction at the Pentagon on September 11, 2001, was not caused by the impact of hijacked American Airlines Flight 77, but rather a truck bomb. He alleges that the U.S. government covered up this fact from the world as part of a larger scheme by the U.S military-industrial complex to covertly orchestrate the September 11th massacres in order to justify the campaign in Afghanistan and elsewhere in the Middle East. Of course, in recent remarks at a presentation for the Arab League, he now claims a missile hit the Pentagon.

A Frenchman, a Germans and an American who wants to be Neo…
NOT GOOD sources of information!

Like I said I have tons of info refuting all of the BS.
 
It is amazing to me that people can buy into things like this. September 11, 2001 was a day of terrible tragedy. Four planes were hijacked, and four planes crashed. As far as I know, there were very few pieces of any of the planes left; they crashed at such high rates of speed. You have to think....if a plane has engine failure and is crashing to the ground, I'm sure the pilots are doing everything they can to slow the plane as much as possible. The hijackers of these planes only flew faster, causing the planes to completely explode into very small pieces I'm sure.

I was in Manhattan on that fateful day, and witnessed the fear and devastation firsthand. How anyone could claim that part of what happened that day was caused by our own country is beyond my comprehension.
 
I do not think they are trying to say it was your government that did this they are saying where is the parts of the supposed airplane 757 that did this. No one is pointing the finger at the GOV they are saying in my honest opinion that they have taken all teh video footage which I agree with as they would have needed it for compiling eveidence about what happened. They are not releasing the film footage mind you and I think that is what may be casing quite a bit of speculation rightly so again imho. Yes there is a large hole in the outer wall but that does not explain the holes that go inot the other walls etc and the lack of any plane parts from a 757. Tat is what they are showing also the rolls of cable out front with little to no damage that should have sustained a great deal of damage if it was a 757 crashing into a building at that close a proximity to them. There are some holes in bth theories IMHO and I have yet to see anything supporting the 757 there was no clear footage of the plane hitting the building just as there is no real footage of a rocket or small et hitting the building so it just leaves alot unexplinaed and unaccounted for again this is my opinion and it will differ from many others and thier opinions does it make mine correct and thier wrong no just as it doesn't make everyone elses opinions right and mine wrong. I have a friend from NJ that worked in the buildings and he was told the day before not to come into work same with the rest of the people from his office lucy maybe or did they know somethig may happen possibly but again no one will ever truly know unless every document pertaining to the incident is made public even documents stating as it has been said that they knew of the attaccs or intended targets weeks or months prior or something like that anyhow.
 
Originally posted by LisaSt
lack of any plane parts from a 757

Just wondering....do you expect to see huge pieces of plane? I'm pretty sure it would have exploded into many small pieces, not to mention that it was carrying enough fuel to certainly burn those pieces to nothing. Of course, this is all JMHO.
 
There should be some recognisable parts left from a plane that large even with the fuel load etc it would have left some parts lage enough to make out what they were.
 
During a normal crash your right there would be, but the way these planes were used, the high heat, most of the things at the crash melted.
 
Yes but didn't they say they found the black boxes from the planes that hit the towers and that fire or those fires were supposedly burning hotter than the Pentagon fire but no word on the black box there.
 
I'm trying to find a video of a jet fighter that was test crashed into a very thick (I think concrete) wall.

It was a high speed camera (10000 frames per second) that caught the action. Basically the plane vaporized on impact. There was nothing left but crumbs.

What I'm getting at is that is it's quite possible that most of the planes (all 4) probably disintegrated on impact and the rest melted away. So I wouldn't expect to see large chunks of plane parts in any of those crashes. They weren't typical.
 











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