Am I the only one who thinks there are to many electric carts in the parks

[WaltD4Me]

I only have on real peeve about people and ECVs. Why do so many people with lower body problems (legs, hip, etc.) automatically get an ECV?? What the heck is wrong with a wheelchair? If nothing is wrong with your upper body, why not take advantage and work your arm muscles??

A lot of people are, in fact, lazy and don't want to push themselves. That's what annoys me. And no, I can't recognize those folks by looking at them, but I am meaning in theory.

WOW! I think you are assuming ALOT here and being very judgemental. Why do you care if a person uses a wheelchair or an ECV? How extemely rude for you to assume people are just being lazy in using an ECV.

Sadly, you are in a wheelchair all the time, but for those who need assistance at someplace like Disney World because of the amount of walking involved, I'm sure are not practiced in using a wheelchair and most likely don't have the upper body strength needed to push themselves in a wheelchair all day. Could you have pushed yourself around in your chair for 6,7, 8 or 10 hours the very first day?

I simply don't understand why ECV use bothers anyone at all. Some people can be just careless period, doesn't matter if they are walking or with their strollers or their ECV...rude is rude no matter your mode of transportation, but I agree it is a small percentage of people. I hear just as many horror stories about strollers as ECV's, more in fact, but I sure don't think their should be a stroller "limit" in the parks!

I for one am glad Disney provides ECV's...I'm glad people who may not have been able to enjoy Disney before their invention can now come to the parks, just like us lucky ones that can walk it. I think everyone who has the nerve to give someone in an ECV a dirty look or make a snide comment under their breath should take a step back and COUNT THEIR BLESSINGS.

 

[mickeyluv'r]

While I know that there are many people with legitimate needs for an alternative to walking, my biggest concern is that so many ECV users appear to be significantly overweight. Disney requires lots of walking and if you are not up to, then you are not up to it..but it does sometimes beg the question -maybe the hip/leg/knee injury wouldn't have happened if the person wasn't carrying an extra fity pounds, and exercised once in a while.

The EVC commercials really scare me - they make it sound as if every person who is too lazy to walk - people who don't qualify as disabled - should still feel entitled to get an EVC.

I have known people who have abused the 'right' to an EVC, it was very disturbing for those who need them. I was working in an environment with young people, and it was sad to see this person set such a poor example for the kids. When anybody mildly. politely, questioned her about her health, she became overly defensive and pulled out the word lawsuit. In the meantime, I worked with a little girl who really needed this type of equipment. The really sad part is, she would have been able to get a new one from the state, but her mom wouldn't come in to sign the paperwork, because she was an alcoholic and was too embarrassed of her daughter's disability. Yes, the child protection people were involved. It was SO very sad. It still makes me want to cry when I think about it.

Like the poster above, I agree that if you are disabled, you should still do what you can to stay in shape. Indeed, if I couldn't walk, I would be super enthusiastic to still do SOMETHING to keep fit. Minimizing the amount of exercise you get is the WORST thing a person can do. Fighting pain is the best thing you can do to fix it - and, yes, I have known physical pain in my life. I got better because I fought it until it got better!

Rage! Rage! against the dying of the light! Do NOT go gentle in to that good night!

 

[mickeyluv]

I'm sorry, but I have to post this! To: Foxfire, what's it to you about a wheelchair or ECV? I mean really. An assistive device is an assistive device right, so what's the big deal with people using ECV's versus wheelchair? Like the OP commented on, maybe it's an upper body issue and they don't feel like being completely exhausted on their vacation. If the ECV's are available, why not utilize them. That is why they have them you know!!

 

[foxfire]

To: Foxfire, what's it to you about a wheelchair or ECV? I mean really. An assistive device is an assistive device right, so what's the big deal with people using ECV's versus wheelchair? Like the OP commented on, maybe it's an upper body issue and they don't feel like being completely exhausted on their vacation. If the ECV's are available, why not utilize them. That is why they have them you know!!

Excuse me. I believe you have ME confused with another poster. I was the one being confronted because we chose to use an ECV instead of a wheelchair when my DS injured his knee. LindsayDunn228 is the poster who was saying people should use wheelchairs instead of ECV's, not me.

If you are questioning me, you're going to have to explain what you meant because I don't understand what you're trying to say.

 

[phorsenuf]

While I know that there are many people with legitimate needs for an alternative to walking, my biggest concern is that so many ECV users appear to be significantly overweight. Disney requires lots of walking and if you are not up to, then you are not up to it..but it does sometimes beg the question -maybe the hip/leg/knee injury wouldn't have happened if the person wasn't carrying an extra fity pounds, and exercised once in a while.

Ummmmm.....has it ever occured to you that perhaps they are overweight due to the fact they cannot exercise properly because of their physical handicap? Medications also cause major weight gains as well.
Why are people so judgemental of overweight people. That just irks me so!
And for the record, no I am not overweight so its not like you are striking a nerve with me. I just find it so annoying and mean!

 

[Amy&Dan]

Wow, every time I log back in and see this post, that I have now myself posted three times on, I am amazed at how some people can be so judgemental! Its okay to use a scooter but if you're fat, don't expect sympathy, use a wheelchair unless you don't have use of your arms, why are there so many disabled people now... On and on. I still wonder where the OP who started this thing is and how he feels now after reading this thing all the way through! Once again, I just feel that unless you know the FULL story behind why somebody does what they do, please don't judge! Oh and by the way, the worst injury I have had inflicted on me at any Disney park was when a nice, fit, thin woman was so busy talking to her friend she stepped on my foot which literally caused my toenail to be ripped off! And she wasn't even pushing as stroller.

 

[athenna]

While I know that there are many people with legitimate needs for an alternative to walking, my biggest concern is that so many ECV users appear to be significantly overweight. Disney requires lots of walking and if you are not up to, then you are not up to it..but it does sometimes beg the question -maybe the hip/leg/knee injury wouldn't have happened if the person wasn't carrying an extra fity pounds, and exercised once in a while.

The EVC commercials really scare me - they make it sound as if every person who is too lazy to walk - people who don't qualify as disabled - should still feel entitled to get an EVC.

I have known people who have abused the 'right' to an EVC, it was very disturbing for those who need them. I was working in an environment with young people, and it was sad to see this person set such a poor example for the kids. When anybody mildly. politely, questioned her about her health, she became overly defensive and pulled out the word lawsuit. In the meantime, I worked with a little girl who really needed this type of equipment. The really sad part is, she would have been able to get a new one from the state, but her mom wouldn't come in to sign the paperwork, because she was an alcoholic and was too embarrassed of her daughter's disability. Yes, the child protection people were involved. It was SO very sad. It still makes me want to cry when I think about it.

Like the poster above, I agree that if you are disabled, you should still do what you can to stay in shape. Indeed, if I couldn't walk, I would be super enthusiastic to still do SOMETHING to keep fit. Minimizing the amount of exercise you get is the WORST thing a person can do. Fighting pain is the best thing you can do to fix it - and, yes, I have known physical pain in my life. I got better because I fought it until it got better!

Rage! Rage! against the dying of the light! Do NOT go gentle in to that good night!

I don't even know where to begin with you.
You have some nerve.

 

[nativetxn]

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I'm going to close this now.

Katholyn