Am I being too harsh?

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It is a closed thread so we can't bump it up! If you go to page two you can find her quoted and see what the OP was where someone quoted her and it could not be deleted!


Thanks! That was the most entertainment I've had on this rainy Saturday. I just hate that I missed it when it was still ongoing. I would have loved to have replied. BTW, do you think there may be any connection between me again/vhoffman and angel0?
 
I also think it's harsh. They are never going to learn if you don't teach them, side by side. I was preparing full meals for my family by 10yo. At 8yo, my brothers and dad were asking me to bake cookies b/c they didn't like my mom's. My 8yo turned on the oven for me tonight when I had my hands full. My 10yo is turning out to be an excellent cook. She has Asperger's and makes macaroni and cheese and ramen noodles independently. They know they are not to cook without permission or without a grown up in the house and we've never had an issue. 8yo still doesn't do any major cooking, but I imagine by the time she's 10, she'll make a mean pot of spaghetti, too.

I would have baked the cake, but not allowed them to have any of it, and I certainly would not have thrown out perfectly good food. If they sneaked anything, then there would be heck to pay in way of cash damages (mine have jobs aside from regular household chores that earn them money), revoked privileges, or lots of time sitting on a very lonely, quiet bed (no TV, no radio, no music, no books, S-I-T). The other thing I've done with my now 18yo bipolar is to have her shadow me. She had to follow me everywhere I went, except the bathroom where she had to wait right outside the door. You can't be trusted, you're going to stay in my presence for awhile until you realize the importance of being trusted. BTW, this was NOT cruel and unusual punishment and was actually suggested by DD's psychiatrist.

I'm thinking there may be a lot of :rolleyes: and disrespect going on behind your back and you need to nip that in the bud before the hormones are in full swing. I'm very matter-of-fact about it and I never make a threat I will not follow through on. After 21 years of child-rearing, my kids know that I mean business b/c I've meant business each and every time. On the flip side, our rules are very fair and are in place for a reason that is made clear to DDs. And, those rules evolve as the children grow. 8yo is not allowed to attempt ramen noodles alone yet, but she certainly helps with close supervision. My DH is very Mr. Monk-ish, the kids call him Mr. Safety Man, but even he understands the need for them to learn to manage tools, household appliances, etc. With proper supervision, they will learn and, it's a lot of fun cooking together. Your kids may see it as an arbitrary rule that doesn't make sense, and when you think about it, a 10yo is fully capable of turning on an oven without incident, so they don't see what the big deal is (and, really, it isn't). Putting the cakes in and out is a whole other ball of wax that they CAN see should be an issue, but not just pushing some buttons.

BTW, whenever I've done a Mommy-Mess-Up, I apologize to my kids, let them know that even adults make mistakes, and ask them to forgive me. Those are some of the best hugs in the world.:hug:

Well said!
Maggie
 

Don't be too hard on yourself. With such a terrible memory, it is understandable that the oven is a "hot button" with you. I have taught teenagers for 10 years now and sometimes it takes something extreme to get their attention. I would try to create a learning experience to demonstrate why you responded the way you did.

For me, it is car safety. I was raised to be very careful and last October, our Yukon was totaled in a wreck that came from nowhere. The first thing we saw was the airbag in our faces. I am still suffering with back pain and can't pick up my kids without wincing. When our kids are 12 or so, we are going to take the kids to an impound yard so they can see what can happen to cars. We don't want to scare them out of driving, but I definitely want to make an impression!! Their safety means more to me than anything, so I will always search for ways to teach a lesson they truly understand.
 
Not sure if the OP is legit or not, but here's my two cents....

The question of too harsh vs. not harsh enough is really pretty unimportant. The real question is one of effectiveness and long term impact of your responses on your childrens behavior. The OP indicated that they have been having regular difficulties in getting her children to respect and follow the rules. I'm not surprised by that, to tell you the truth. If the response to the "stove incident" is at all typical of her responses to other behavior transgressions, then the fact that the kids don't listen well is just a natural consequence. Would you listen to a person who reacted in an irrational manner? I don't have enough information to determine whether or not this type of response is a pattern of behavior in her household, so I'll withhold judgment on that-but if it is, it's certainly not going to get any better if she keeps on doing the same things that she's always done, which appears to be what many people on this board have suggested-keep imposing more and bigger consequences on the kids when they don't follow your rules. That used to work with kids-and there might be some instances where it still does. But the truth is that raising children in this day and age requires a different set of parenting skills than the ones our parents had. We need a new bag of tricks that focuses on what many have already suggested-teaching our kids the skills they need to be successful.
 
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