Alligator Signs ... inside Magic Kingdom! :(

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But as BrianL says, people aren't going to be wading around in the water in the park. And if a gator comes out of the water onto dry land in an area that people can access, the signs are now pointless.

So what's the point with the resort signs? The gators can and do attack on land. You're supposed to run zig zag or some such thing. If you are in Florida (which is where the entirety of Disney World is) you have a significant chance of running into one.

Stacy
 
So what's the point with the resort signs? The gators can and do attack on land. You're supposed to run zig zag or some such thing. If you are in Florida (which is where the entirety of Disney World is) you have a significant chance of running into one.

Stacy
The signs and fence (visual barrier) are for the guests, not the alligators.
 
The signs and fence (visual barrier) are for the guests, not the alligators.
Right, sorry I wasn't clear enough. My post was for the people that said they needed resort signs (because the boy was in the water) but not at the parks because people aren't wading there. It doesn't matter if you aren't wading, alligators can move on land.

Stacy
 
I mean the Disney gators. The one in the light show etc. sorry if I wasn't clear.
OK, sorry. However, I still have to disagree with you. I think it is good to remind people to be careful. It will be only for a short time anyway before either people forget about it or have never heard about it. Not everyone is tuned into Disney news no matter what we think. Those fake gators, be they in a parade, a boat parade or wherever, have never harmed anyone and if reminding parents to keep their kids away from the water, any water, in Florida is the result of them remaining, then that is all the reason I need to support their staying.
 
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BUT,since Disney didn't respond in any way to the 1986 incident,I'm thinking they feel like they HAVE to respond this time in a big way.
Nah, if someone doesn't frequent this board, they don't even know about the "alleged 86 incident". And they shouldn't, nothing happened with that one. This is the only one involving a gator that resulted in a fatality.
 
I'm only talking about parks and mainly magic kingdom which only has one canal entrance.
I'm not sure that is true, but, even if it was, what does that matter? You see those stubby looking appendages under the Alligators, they are called legs. And they know how to use them. Water isn't an absolute necessity to one of those. Water, land, fences, walls... if they want to get there they will. So, we as allegedly intelligent members of the animal species must be alert to the dangers that nature can expose us too and make sure we are not a victim of a food chain incident.
 
So what's the point with the resort signs? The gators can and do attack on land. You're supposed to run zig zag or some such thing. If you are in Florida (which is where the entirety of Disney World is) you have a significant chance of running into one.

Stacy
Gators usually attack at the water's edge so they can drag their prey in and subdue (drown) it and stash it so that it can decompose for a bit and they can then consume it (since they cannot chew). They are drawn to their prey by the vibrations given off by splashing in the water. I do not believe there is anywhere in the Magic Kingdom that a gator could easily come out of a body of water, snatch a human being, and drag it back into that body of water. People cannot get close enough to the water for this to happen thanks to fences and shrubbery, etc. And alligators aren't going to charge down Main Street USA chasing people and attacking them. They really aren't interested in you unless you're either provoking them or they think you'd make an easy meal.

I'd say the point of the resort signs and fences is to warn guests that going into the water and feeding wildlife are both dangerous and therefore prohibited. I'd say the MK signs are intended to address the "feeding" issue more than the "going in the water" issue.

Mostly, the signs are meant to protect Disney.
 
OK, sorry. However, I still have to disagree with you. I think it is good to remind people to be careful. It will be only for a short time anyway before either people forget about it or have never heard about it. Not everyone is tuned into Disney news no matter what we think. Those fake gators, be they in a parade, a boat parade or wherever, have never harmed anyone and if reminding parents to keep their kids away from the water, any water, in Florida is the result of them remaining, then that is all the reason I need to support their staying.

Well everyone has an opinion which is fine. Like I said, we were staying there when it happened and it was awful. We didn't like seeing the Disney gators on the rides etc. it felt to be in poor taste given the situation.

I don't see those gators as serving as a reminder. I see them as making light of or joking about gator attacks (think Peter Pan ride). If they are in fact removing even some of that from around the mk area I would find the removal appropriate.
 
Most waterways are interconnected, and alligators don't know they're not supposed to be in Disney-owned waters.

Who said they're "not supposed" to be in Disney-owned waters? Maybe Disney should put up some signs telling the gators to keep out. The nerve!
 
I saw a report yesterday that there were tw gators involved in the attack. The 2nd gator attcked the father when he was trying to save his son from the other one.

The signs are needed. Too many foreigners and people from parts of the country where they aren't aware of the dangers visit Disney.
 
Gators usually attack at the water's edge so they can drag their prey in and subdue (drown) it and stash it so that it can decompose for a bit and they can then consume it (since they cannot chew). They are drawn to their prey by the vibrations given off by splashing in the water. I do not believe there is anywhere in the Magic Kingdom that a gator could easily come out of a body of water, snatch a human being, and drag it back into that body of water. People cannot get close enough to the water for this to happen thanks to fences and shrubbery, etc. And alligators aren't going to charge down Main Street USA chasing people and attacking them. They really aren't interested in you unless you're either provoking them or they think you'd make an easy meal.

I'd say the point of the resort signs and fences is to warn guests that going into the water and feeding wildlife are both dangerous and therefore prohibited. I'd say the MK signs are intended to address the "feeding" issue more than the "going in the water" issue.

Mostly, the signs are meant to protect Disney.

Well stated! And this poor boy was IN the water--the gator didn't run up on the beach in broad daylight and drag him 200 yards into the water! And he was in the water at or near night!!!

Sure--they can and do come up on land but rarely attack people--we occasionally see them on land in Florida--just staying put and appearing to be sunning themselves.

And in daylight, just looking at that water near the Grand Floridian--would you even want to get in, signs or not????
 
Well everyone has an opinion which is fine. Like I said, we were staying there when it happened and it was awful. We didn't like seeing the Disney gators on the rides etc. it felt to be in poor taste given the situation.

I don't see those gators as serving as a reminder. I see them as making light of or joking about gator attacks (think Peter Pan ride). If they are in fact removing even some of that from around the mk area I would find the removal appropriate.

But then don't you run into the debate about removing other things that might offend people?
 
So what's the point with the resort signs? The gators can and do attack on land. You're supposed to run zig zag or some such thing. If you are in Florida (which is where the entirety of Disney World is) you have a significant chance of running into one.

Stacy
They can also climb fences too...FYI.. never run zig zag. They run straight and will get you faster because you have slowed yourself down and keep crossing their path ...that's not wise to do. They can probably out run you short distance on land.
 
I remember one year staying at Caribbean Beach Resort and the children were looking at the little turtles and a kind lady told us to be careful as they were snapping turtles and could have your finger off. I would never have know that coming from the UK. Also the children were intrigued by the snake we found in Fort Wilderness one year along with an armadillo at night.

I also find the signs hypocritical at the Polynesian and Beach Club outside dining area to not feed the wildlife when they built a massive theme park in the swamp and changed their habitat.


This is a great example of what is being discussed here. It doesn't matter where you are from, every country and location of the world has wild life. The best thing you can do is to look but don't play. Wildlife is just that wildlife. Its fun to see these animals but its also important that you respect their space. It's the parents responsibility to teach their kids this type of respect for wildlife. We have lots of squirrels around us and they are so very cute but we don't let our kids feed them or chase them. Let's use this as a life lesson and realize that trying to interact with wildlife like they are one of our domestic animals is not smart.
 
Father is now stating there were 2 gators, one that attacked him while he was trying to get his son. I have lived in FL 25 yrs this November and have never heard of a second gator being around during an attack. I am not saying dad is lying, just stating how rare
 
They can also climb fences too...FYI.. never run zig zag. They run straight and will get you faster because you have slowed yourself down and keep crossing their path ...that's not wise to do. They can probably out run you short distance on land.

Well--since gators like to hunt at night and in the water, chances of anyone having to outrun one on land are mighty slim indeed!!!
 
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TICK TOCK THE CROC OF COURSE!!!
 
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