~ All My Children Fans ~ What's new in Pine Valley? *Rebecca returning as Greenlee* Part 2

[goofie4goofy]

When Sarah Michelle Geller was on as Kendall, she started out as something like 16 or 18. They had to rapidly age her to about 25 when everyone started complaining that there was no way that she could be 16.

So she's been off the show for a good while. I figure Erica is 58 or 59. Kendall has to be 43 or 44. Josh has to be about 37 or 38.

RIGHT..

I am confused because I figure Kendalls character to be 29-33 becasue she is older than Bianca. Kendall cannot be in her 40's on the show...that woul;d be my age and she is definately younger than me. I just think they are trying to keep Susan Lucci/Erica as a young late 40's ageless icon character. As long as she keeps up with her botox

 

[auntie]

I am not liking this Zarf storyline. I find his situation to be unique..I'm not entirely insensitive to his dilemma but feel writers could have handled this in a much more sensitive way. He just comes off as a freak like this. In general I'm not crazy about the story..but if they are going to write it..did he have to be so off the wall hard to take. I don't think they've done any favors for folks who really may feel as this character does. Also...he is supposed to be a rock star?...Really. How about a regualr Joe(Jane) facing life with these feelings.

 

[Deb & Bill]

I am not liking this Zarf storyline. I find his situation to be unique..I'm not entirely insensitive to his dilemma but feel writers could have handled this in a much more sensitive way. He just comes off as a freak like this. In general I'm not crazy about the story..but if they are going to write it..did he have to be so off the wall hard to take. I don't think they've done any favors for folks who really may feel as this character does. Also...he is supposed to be a rock star?...Really. How about a regualr Joe(Jane) facing life with these feelings.

I must be watching a different show than you. I'm seeing a heart-broken individual who thought she/he had just seen a glimpse of happiness. Now everything is crashing down around her/him.

He really is a good actor. And a pretty good singer, too.

I did like the police bust in the limo, though.

 

[DisneyMommyMichelle]

i loved the limo bust! it had me laughing out loud!!

 

[s&k'smom]

I've worked the last three days and sadly I have not missed the show. I think I'm just tired of it turning into a Babe show. And this whole Kendall doesn't want to tell Ryan the DNA results thing. Acting like a spoiled brat. Oh well maybe next week it will be better.

 

[luvwinnie]

I have to agree that they need to make Erica act more her age. I guess I can understand the storyline with her & Jeff, however, the way they are going about it completely juvenille. I can't imagine that any woman her age would act that way - even Erica Kane.

Yesterdays scenes with her, Jack & Jeff were laughable it was so extreme.

Now, a comment on the Zarf/Zoe thing. I know I'm in the minority, but I actually like this storyline. I think it shows a lot about how some people probably have to live with secrets. Plus, I think the actor that is playing this role is incredible. I thought someone said he is a Broadway actor. After the scene in ConFusion all I can say is "Wow!!!".

I also think Eden Regal is doing an outstanding job in her role with this storyline.

I'm with you in the minority. I think it's the most interesting and heartfelt storyline in quite some time.

 

[pbnjrockette]

I know Susan Lucci is 60, but I always try to figure out how old Erica is??

She had Kendall at 14 or so?? And "Kendall" is late 20's or early 30's?? Then Erica is _____?

Susan Lucci was born December 23 1946 making her 60 (she does look good except when you see her armpits!).

But Erica has been in her 40's for the last 15 years or so!!!

Sure wish I could age in soapville!!

 

[Donna]

Susan Lucci was born December 23 1946 making her 60 (she does look good except when you see her armpits!).

But Erica has been in her 40's for the last 15 years or so!!!

Sure wish I could age in soapville!!

Don't look at her NECK either! it's dinosaur-ish, lol. still, she DOES look good and just as good in person.

 

[luvwinnie]

I think ERica would look BETTER with less makeup...it's so harsh.

 

[goofie4goofy]

OK did you guys notice on todays show (friday) that when Zarf/Zoe was being questioned that there was 2 distinct personalities there??? I really do think Zarf committed the murders as Zoe, but since Zoe committed the murders, Zarf does not know Zoe 's evil doings It appears that he has a dual personality that of Zarf the Rock star and Zoe the hartbroken angry queen who has a vendetta because his parents made him ignore his true self.

 

[Mrs.Toad]

OK did you guys notice on todays show (friday) that when Zarf/Zoe was being questioned that there was 2 distinct personalities there??? I really do think Zarf committed the murders as Zoe, but since Zoe committed the murders, Zarf does not know Zoe 's evil doings It appears that he has a dual personality that of Zarf the Rock star and Zoe the hartbroken angry queen who has a vendetta because his parents made him ignore his true self.

I haven't seen today's show yet, but gosh, I hope not!

I like the storyline, too, I just can't stand all the "aura" stuff. IMO, it was bad enough that they made the first transgendered soap opera character so wacky in that respect. It'd be especially appalling if they turn it into a split personality/murderer thing.

Like auntie said, they aren't doing the transgendered community any favors by making him out to be a freak and possibly a murderer. They could have been much more sensitive.

 

[luvwinnie]

I haven't seen today's show yet, but gosh, I hope not!

I like the storyline, too, I just can't stand all the "aura" stuff. IMO, it was bad enough that they made the first transgendered soap opera character so wacky in that respect. It'd be especially appalling if they turn it into a split personality/murderer thing.

Like auntie said, they aren't doing the transgendered community any favors by making him out to be a freak and possibly a murderer. They could have been much more sensitive.

I don't find him to be a freak really...just someone afraid to show his/her true self.

 

[auntie]

I'm sorry..but to me...I do feel he is a bit freaky....and I'm not referring to his transgender issues. He is OUT THERE. I am familiar with transgender issues. As my husband has had a family member deal with this. It is extremely difficult for a family, and for the person involved. There are so many emotions and issues on many different levels. There is plenty of material the writers could have used to deal with this issue if that's where they wanted to go. Having this guy be a "rock star"...really...he doesn't strike me as the rock star type to begin with and then have these transgender issues? He decides to make his debut on New Years Eve and sing and dance like a nut in the club...it was embarrassing to watch. Made me cringe really. Everyone being so politically correct. "Oh...Zarf...that's you...how lovely..a bit different but lovely"..not likely what he would really face. They all looked as if this goes on every day in Pine Valley. That's not likely what would have happened. Most people who have faced this issue are not rock stars singing and dancing their way through life. They are not flamboyant "auora"...telling crazies. They are poor souls struggling with who they are and what or who they feel they really may be. Having Zarf flirt with Aiden...gross...it was over the top. Creepy. Just my opinion but I don't feel they've done anyone in this situation any favors by having this character be so "out there" so to speak.

Now as for Erica...I've thought the same thing for a while...put on a turltle neck..or just some clothing PLEASE. How old are you?...What's with the sleeveless looks in Decemeber?...It doesn't flatter her..she looks like a human bone. I thought she looked great the day she had on a turtleneck and jeans. While I agree she is a good looking woman..she does look as if she is in her late 50's...and what's the matter with that?...Why is it we can't have a storyline that reflects a woman in her 50's?(Can you tell I'm 49 this year?..haha!) I hate that it makes us 45 plus gals feel like we are out to pasture. Nothing good could ever happen to someone our age..you have to be 35 and have kids that are mwhat 33...because they age the kids and not the character. I think in real life by now, she would have aged in wisdom not only years and stop playing the character as the same teenage girl she was 35 years ago. Jack would have kicked her to curb with the attitude. He looks considerably younger than she to begin with I think. I love the way these men who look like they are wearing leisure suits fawn all over her because she is "Erica"...what are these writers thinking..maybe they have to write this stuff for her. Does she ever get up in the morning and think..jeeze..I think the girls were higher yesterday?...Where are they going?...The true meaning of a push up bra!.. Can we please see Erica have a hot flash...how funny would that be?....I mean she is 60...don't tell me she hasn't had one. Hey..how about this...Erica is secretly taking hormone therapy treatments and doesn't want anyone to know..so she is getting them illegally and is busted by the Pine Valley Police!

 

[Deb & Bill]

...There is plenty of material the writers could have used to deal with this issue if that's where they wanted to go. Having this guy be a "rock star"...really...he doesn't strike me as the rock star type to begin with and then have these transgender issues? He decides to make his debut on New Years Eve and sing and dance like a nut in the club...it was embarrassing to watch. Made me cringe really. Everyone being so politically correct. "Oh...Zarf...that's you...how lovely..a bit different but lovely"..not likely what he would really face. They all looked as if this goes on every day in Pine Valley. That's not likely what would have happened. Most people who have faced this issue are not rock stars singing and dancing their way through life. They are not flamboyant "auora"...telling crazies. They are poor souls struggling with who they are and what or who they feel they really may be. Having Zarf flirt with Aiden...gross...it was over the top. Creepy. Just my opinion but I don't feel they've done anyone in this situation any favors by having this character be so "out there" so to speak....

I'm kind of seeing it in a different way. He really didn't intend to come out to anyone but Bianca, and then it really didn't work out the way he thought it would. I think he really intended for them to have a quiet evening at home, once she found out (even though he did know she was going to ConFusion). Then he had "the deer in the headlights" look about him in the office. What else could he do?

No, it just didn't work out the way he had it planned, so he had to cover somehow. After Bianca reemed him out at ConFusion, didn't you see his plea to Babe? He really wanted to get out of there to somewhere safe. Then the whole Police thing started, and, oh boy, what to do now.

He is severely troubled, but I surely hope that Zoe didn't do the killing. I think it is someone from Zach's past - Michael's dead, so he can't do it. Who else does he still have in his past?

 

[Donna]

I an wondering if zach (seeing his troubled past lately) is the one that did it and somehow blocked it out from memory because he subconsciously has felt guilty about his mother's death. zarf/zoe makes more sense in that he would be more likely to kill, possibly being jealous of the beautiful fusion girls, but it's almost too obvious for that reason too.

 

[inaminute]

What about that guy who raped Bianca? Michael Canbias--wasn't he Zach's brother? They never found his body, did they? Didn't we see him still alive right at the very end of the story? He'd know aobut Zach's past. He'd also have a grudge against the ladies of Fusion.

I'm hoping they aren't going to make Zarf/Zoe the killer. I acutally like the character. And, he is a character! And, I think there could be a lot of really interesting story lines with him/her involved. I hate that dumb name "Zarf" though!

 

[MELSMICE]

I'm kind of seeing it in a different way. He really didn't intend to come out to anyone but Bianca, and then it really didn't work out the way he thought it would. I think he really intended for them to have a quiet evening at home, once she found out (even though he did know she was going to ConFusion). Then he had "the deer in the headlights" look about him in the office. What else could he do?

No, it just didn't work out the way he had it planned, so he had to cover somehow. After Bianca reemed him out at ConFusion, didn't you see his plea to Babe? He really wanted to get out of there to somewhere safe. Then the whole Police thing started, and, oh boy, what to do now.

He is severely troubled, but I surely hope that Zoe didn't do the killing. I think it is someone from Zach's past - Michael's dead, so he can't do it. Who else does he still have in his past?

This is the way I took it. He wanted to come out to Bianca but it backfired so he to "cover" himself & that's why he did his performance in ConFusion.

I can only imagine the things a person with such a conflict goes through & I would hope that the writers don't make light of it.

What about that guy who raped Bianca? Michael Canbias--wasn't he Zach's brother? They never found his body, did they? Didn't we see him still alive right at the very end of the story? He'd know aobut Zach's past. He'd also have a grudge against the ladies of Fusion.

I'm hoping they aren't going to make Zarf/Zoe the killer. I acutally like the character. And, he is a character! And, I think there could be a lot of really interesting story lines with him/her involved. I hate that dumb name "Zarf" though!

I thought they found Michael's body on the meat hook in a freezer - didn't they? But.............when someone came back was he gone? I get so confused sometimes.

I also hope they don't make Zarf/Zoe the killer.

I didn't see today, but on the last 2 episodes (Wed. & Thurs.) they showed some guy in ConFusion. Don't know who he was, have never seen him, but they did a close up at least twice on him. Guy about in his 20's with short dark hair.

BTW - I'm so over the Babe/Josh storyline. Move on already. How many times can we watch:

"Josh, I'm moving on. I still love JR. You need to let me work on my marriage"

"But, Babe, I'm still in love with you & I'm going to fight for you with every last breath."

Next thing you know they are staring into each others eyes, however, next scene Babe is repeating what I've posted above. ENOUGH ALREADY!!!

 

[goofie4goofy]

What about that guy who raped Bianca? Michael Canbias--wasn't he Zach's brother? They never found his body, did they? Didn't we see him still alive right at the very end of the story? He'd know aobut Zach's past. He'd also have a grudge against the ladies of Fusion.

I'm hoping they aren't going to make Zarf/Zoe the killer. I acutally like the character. And, he is a character! And, I think there could be a lot of really interesting story lines with him/her involved. I hate that dumb name "Zarf" though!

Yes they found Michael Cambias' body ....he was found frozen solid hanging from a meat hook in a packing plant. It was another whodunit. Kendall faked or tried to fake a marriage and pregnancy to cover for Bianca when she did not want anyone to know she had a bun in the oven. He is Zach's brother and his character has a recurring role (along with his father) in dreams and near death experiences....they come to him in occasional dreams and tell him that he is just as rotten as they are and he will be joining them in hell

 

[DisneyMommyMichelle]

ohhh i hope Zach is not the murderer! i just want them to cut this guy a break alreadY!!

 

[donnajon]

I think Jonathan is the killer. I think the "bad" they cut out of his brain has grown back and now he is killing again. And then they will cut the new bad back out and everything will be fine and he will continue living in the house of one of his murder victims with the victim's sister-in-law. And then he will be able to get back with Lily because he will be on her level again.