Alec Baldwin on The View Friday

[kimmikayb]

I am wondering what "truth" people are waiting to hear that would make it OK to scream those horrid things at that girl.

Exactly!! I so agree with this statement!

BTW, AB didn't just invent PAS nor is he the first to introduce it to society...it's been around and a point of problem in divorces for years.

 

[Cmbar]

He did damage control. PERIOD!

There are two sides to every story and my side would be if my DH spoke to my daughter like that I would keep her from him as well.

You have to be crazy to think this is the ONLY time this man has gone off on his daughter like that. If he was a loving father then why would the mother keep him from her? Maybe she is a wacko too, but we don't have a tape of her spouting profanity and calling their daughter a pig and telling her she is going to "straighten out her a$$".

This guy is a loser! Of course Rosie is a good friend. I mean Rosie and him are on the same side of the political spectrum. What makes me angry is that the only difference in this case is that they had to do damage control. If the exact same tape was played and the screamer was Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O;Reilly, etc..., Rosie would have been on monday morning saying. "He really should be fired and arrested. Children have to come first, yada yada yada." No Flames, just looking at the "truth". It is always tainted by some political agenda in Hollywood.

If Alec really wanted to do damage control without his ego getting in the way, he would have said " I am so sorry for saying these things to my daughter and I should agree to counseling with her to try and correct the damage I have done to her." I hate when they turn it around and now HE is the victim.

For those of you who know of parent alienation, it is sad and I feel for those parents that are wrongfully kept from their children.

 

[Cool-Beans]

You know what would be really funny? If it turned out the girl released the tape.

Maybe she was just sick and tired of people thinking her dad was so wonderful and wanted all his adoring fans to hear what he was really like. I can totally see a kid doing that.

Not that I think she did!! I have no idea. I just thought that would be funny.

 

[Cass]

Here's a good article from the LA Times today on the Basinger/Baldwin Relationship

 

[Cool-Beans]

Here's a good article from the LA Times today on the Basinger/Baldwin Relationship

Not reading it, 'cause like I said I couldn't care less why he hates the ex.

And it canNOT excuse what he said to that girl, because nothing can.

 

[Bobbles]

Good grief!

It's truly a shame he isn't as good as the rest of us isn't it?

 

[DISUNC]

Since I am a party in family alienation I have a slightly different pov. My dil has nothing to do with our family, or hers. She homeschools the kids so that they are not tainted with any outside views.

I did not care for Mr. Baldwin's excuses at all. If one wants to be part of a child's life, even if angry with one's spouse I cannot understand talking to the child as he did. Not many children would respond in a positive way to such.

I can understand being angry if the child does not call back or other things but the 'pig' thing sounds like a selfish parent wanting their way no matter what. No one is perfect and we all have said things that we regret but I did not get the sense he regretted much, if anything of what he said. It was a case of it is all Kim's fault and who knows she might say the same of him. The 'child' might well just be a pawn in the whole thing. Just another possession to hold power over the other.

I do know that I would never do or say anything about my grandchildren's parents let alone about THEM that might hurt them in anyway. I will patiently (most of the time ) wait until they look me up and then let their parents explain. The other grandma does not have much of a chance of living long enough to get that comfort but I fully plan on telling them how much she loved them also. I write notes, cards and such and put them in boxes so that I can give them to them one day so that they know they were never forgotten, for a minute. I do not talk about the situation locally because I would never want something to get back to the family where the mom would take it out on the children, cause a problem in the marriage, or in any way harm anyone involved. Sometimes when you love someone you have to put your own feelings aside.

Slightly Goofy and Totally Grandma

 

[Cool-Beans]

Good grief!

It's truly a shame he isn't as good as the rest of us isn't it?

No, what is a shame is that he calls his daughter and leaves a message for her screaming that she is a pig.

I feel badly for all children treated in this manner and wouldn't excuse anyone for it.

 

[Cass]

Not reading it, 'cause like I said I couldn't care less why he hates the ex.

And it canNOT excuse what he said to that girl, because nothing can.

The article makes him sound worse (if that's possible?) with other explosive angry public events he's been involved in.

He is so transparent, spoiled, immature and EVERYTHING is about him and should revolve around him.

 

[DISUNC]

The article makes him sound worse (if that's possible?) with other explosive angry public events he's been involved in.

He is so transparent, spoiled, immature and EVERYTHING is about him and should revolve around him.

I think it is WAY WEIRD that none of his Brothers are supporting him!

 

[kimmikayb]

Good grief!

It's truly a shame he isn't as good as the rest of us isn't it?

I'm far from a perfect parent, and have never claimed to be. I just can't imagine ever saying anything like this to one of my kids no matter how stressed I was.

 

[kimmikayb]

I think it is WAY WEIRD that none of his Brothers are supporting him!

yes and his friends are saying how wrong it was too.

 

[Chloe'sMom]

First of all maybe no one has said this directly but - Cool Beans - no one here has at all said it is RIGHT for him to scream at his daughter. Even he said it was wrong, no one has condoned it. People have understood what it is like to lose their temper but no one has said it is a justified act.

My husband grew up with a verbally abusive father so maybe I'm a bit biased. He's been called everything from stupid, ***, an accident, *******, you name - he was called that. Ya know what, he still has a somewhat decent relationship with his father.

If this was truly a one time incident then it is not the "truth" as Cool Beans would love everyone to think. It is an incident.

A couple of things about the interview:
* It has been in the press before that Bassinger violated his parental rights by not having him be with his daughter while she was out of town. This is public knowledge because as he said he had to file petitions in court to get it acknowledged by the court system and his right protected.

* I completely understand the taking frustration out on one person that is meant for another. I've done it. I'll be mad as hell at my father and will take it out on my husband. That is where the expression "kick the dog" comes from. Is it right that he took it out on his child - absolutely not. But I'm not going to act like I've never done it.

* The courts in fact do not do much to protect the rights of fathers. I'm glad to see that this is getting more media attention.

* I do not condone Alec's behaviour, nor do I condone the "journalist" that published it or the actions of the mother who must have been involved in some way of making it public knowledge.

The only true victim here is that poor girl and hopefully she'll be able to salvage a relationship with both her parents. I contnued to be amazed at the self-righteous attitudes of people on the DIS. Mistakes are made, and you're right he doesn't owe you an apology. He made a public statement, he has hopefully had a chance to apologize to his daughter and that's the end of it.

~Amanda

 

[Chloe'sMom]

I think it is WAY WEIRD that none of his Brothers are supporting him!

They are not publicly supporting him. We don't know what has been said in private.

 

[Chloe'sMom]

Good grief!

It's truly a shame he isn't as good as the rest of us isn't it?

Yes we can't all be perfect parents.

 

[KikiFan]

I think it is WAY WEIRD that none of his Brothers are supporting him!

I think it's interesting that KB's mother supports him.

 

[Bobbles]

Of course the reference to his daughter as a "pig" was wrong.

My point is that "most" of us have lost our temper with our child or spouse. We are just lucky that we aren't celebrity and have things like this posted...and posted...and posted ad nauseum.

I guess I don't know how long we have to be reminded of others failings.

If we have never had a failed marriage and been subjected to the ravages of having our family split apart, I would think that we couldn't have experienced the same kind of unbridled rage. So how would we know what he went through.

We are just luckier than he is.

Some folks will never accept any apologies from any one.

 

[tiggersmom2]

I just have to say....Kim Basinger has always maintained that he was abusive. Do I know this is true? No, but he is making it easy to see that it may very well be true.

On parental alienation: My first husband almost killed me but if it was up to the judge he could have gotten visitation ....I would have done anything, I mean ANYTHING to have prevented that. I don't know if this is their case but he does seem abusive to me.

 

[Fan2CSkr]

I think it is WAY WEIRD that none of his Brothers are supporting him!

http://www.celebrity-babies.com/2007/04/william_baldwin.html
Alec Baldwin is a "wonderful guy" and a "wonderful father," according to his younger brother William 'Billy' Baldwin. In an interview given to Extra, Billy talked about the furor surrounding Alec's troubling phone call to his daughter Ireland Baldwin, and the toll it has taken on their entire family.

Contrary to the portrayal offered up by Alec's ex-wife, actress Kim Basinger, Alec enjoys a "happy, loving relationship" with his daughter, according to Billy. The younger Baldwin brother went on to express concern for his 11-year-old niece.

I know that she loves her Dad very much. I know that she wishes this would end...she's probably embarrassed by all of this.

The interview will air Thursday.

 

[Chloe'sMom]

I just have to say....Kim Basinger has always maintained that he was abusive. Do I know this is true? No, but he is making it easy to see that it may very well be true.

On parental alienation: My first husband almost killed me but if it was up to the judge he could have gotten visitation ....I would have done anything, I mean ANYTHING to have prevented that. I don't know if this is their case but he does seem abusive to me.

I'm sorry to hear about your first husband.

From what I've read about Kim Basinger she doesn't sound like the most stable person to me either.

~Amanda