Alec Baldwin on The View Friday

I managed to catch some of the interview. Given that he is an actor by profession, how do you determine what is genuine remorse and what is acting? He did seem contrite and in pain, I feel sorry for him. His comment about the difference between how he and his wife would wake up their daughter really sounded lame. Like, he was a better parent because he didn't call her but went in personally.

If his aim today was damage control, then I think he did a good job. He's reaching out to others in parental alienation conditions. Hey, I even think he's made an unknown phrase "parental alienation" into our general vocabularies today.
 
Maybe everyone who heard the actual tape..tore it apart, analyzed it, spun it, judged it, etc...can tune in and hear what he says. With hundreds of views and posts over the tape, by all means listen to his side. :surfweb:
I think we all heard his side on the tape. I don't need the cleaned-up apology. But then, I didn't need an apology at all. He did nothing to me. He's apologizing to the wrong people.

If that's the way he talks to his daughter - even when he's angry - it is no wonder that she doesn't want to talk to him. Duh.

I'd alienate someone who screamed at me that I was a pig, too.

And if my husband talked the kids like that, I'd move out and keep the kids away, too. Wouldn't divorce him, but none of us would be spending any time with him, either.

I don't know what is going on in that divorce and I don't care. There is no excuse for what he said. None. Not even "I really hate my ex-wife." And who cares if he says he's sorry?! Sorry doesn't help.
 
Did anyone catch that he agreed to a meeting with Dr Phil?? (not sure if it will be a public meeting or private - I didnt catch but the end of the comment on a radio talk show I listen!)

I also believe that a 6 year divorce (and parental alientation does exist) can push someone over the edge - and his phone message was over the edge! A father cannot call a daughter (OK an adult cant speak to a child like that!) names -

I did have a problem with him justifying his namecalling by saying her mother wakes her up by yelling get the hell up... it wouldnt surprise me one way or another, but it was all part of damage control

however in the end like someone posted - he is passionate about being a father.. not indifferent.

I think in many ways there are paparazzi and tabloid journalist that push celebs over the edge too - but again, he was trying to deflect the issue... quite natural tho...
 
Just got finished watching the interview, I agree with DISUNC

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I think 'his fans' need to listen to this again. :scared:

If the father of my child talked to her like that, I would do anything to protect her from the whacko.
 

I just now watched it after having tivo'd it. All I can is WOW. I am a huge Alec Baldwin fan: love him on SNL, respect his views and share many of the same, think he's a decent actor, find him attractive, blah, blah, blah. I really WANTED to "approve" of this interview. Unfortunately, I have to agree with some of the others in this thread. He was really hamming it up and while he might be sincere (and I think he is inasmuch as he truly loves his daughter) he came off as being very condescending and bitter. I actually felt myself cringe on his behalf when he spoke of waking Ireland up v. the way her mom does. C'mon Alec--you went a little overboard there. I hope this all goes away soon--it's becoming tiresome.
 
I believe he's sorry alright, sorry he was caught.

Do you think a week after leaving that message for his daughter he would be feeling so badly if it was not publicized? No - he was threatening her that he was flying out on Friday the 20th to straighten out her ***. :rolleyes: The poor girl.
 
however in the end like someone posted - he is passionate about being a father.. not indifferent.
So, he's passionate, so what? If he beat her, that would be even more passionate. I STILL wouldn't be slapping him on the back.

What he said was wrong. The fact that he screams at the girl that she's a pig is indefensible.

Passionate doesn't always mean it is good. I'd MUCH rather have someone ignoring me than calling and screaming at me that I'm a pig.

I can't even imagine hearing that from my father or having my children hear it from us (unless we're joking.) It was vile.

And I cannot believe he has the audacity to show his face in public, much less to excuse himself by saying that he'd rather say it to the ex. God help him and his kids.
 
He's sorry he got caught.

I was on the severe end of PAS....I'm still dealing with the after effects. I was under stress I can't even describe....and I never, ever talked to my children that way. It wasn't their fault. I fault both parents in this case, but I am amazed at the sympathy that this so called father is getting.
 
The only one I feel sorry for is his daughter. Completely innocent child who will NEVER have a chance to grow up without spotlight, and more so due to this..

I hope she has a strong circle of family to keep her loved, happy, and knowing it is not HER fault...

I have been there done that sadly enough, and know all too well the feelings she will "possibly" go through, and they are not good.

God Bless Ireland.:hug:
 
I still can't get Dawn's description of him saying BAAAAAALLLLLDWIIINSSSS at the concierge desk out of my mind.:lmao: :lmao: After watching the show, I can so see him doing that. He is such a rude, condescending horse's ***.
 
Since I am a party in family alienation I have a slightly different pov. My dil has nothing to do with our family, or hers. She homeschools the kids so that they are not tainted with any outside views.:sad1:

I did not care for Mr. Baldwin's excuses at all. If one wants to be part of a child's life, even if angry with one's spouse I cannot understand talking to the child as he did. Not many children would respond in a positive way to such.

I can understand being angry if the child does not call back or other things but the 'pig' thing sounds like a selfish parent wanting their way no matter what. No one is perfect and we all have said things that we regret but I did not get the sense he regretted much, if anything of what he said. It was a case of it is all Kim's fault and who knows she might say the same of him. The 'child' might well just be a pawn in the whole thing. Just another possession to hold power over the other. :grouphug:

I do know that I would never do or say anything about my grandchildren's parents let alone about THEM that might hurt them in anyway. I will patiently (most of the time ) wait until they look me up and then let their parents explain. The other grandma does not have much of a chance of living long enough to get that comfort but I fully plan on telling them how much she loved them also. I write notes, cards and such and put them in boxes so that I can give them to them one day so that they know they were never forgotten, for a minute. I do not talk about the situation locally because I would never want something to get back to the family where the mom would take it out on the children, cause a problem in the marriage, or in any way harm anyone involved. Sometimes when you love someone you have to put your own feelings aside.

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Thats harsh. Do you know him personally?

It's not nearly as harsh as what Baldwin said to a child he supposedly loves.

Happily, I can say that I don't know him personally. Then again, I don't have to be personally acquainted with someone in order to know what I think of them referring to their adolescent daughter as a "pig" and making threats to "straighten out your ***."
 
If his aim today was damage control, then I think he did a good job. He's reaching out to others in parental alienation conditions. Hey, I even think he's made an unknown phrase "parental alienation" into our general vocabularies today.

He did do a good job at damage control. It was long overdue.

I'm not writing him off just yet. The old adage is "there's three sides to every story, hers, his and the truth." Sooner or later, the truth will prevail. Unfortunately it's at the expense of a young daughter.
 
He did do a good job at damage control. It was long overdue.

I'm not writing him off just yet. The old adage is "there's three sides to every story, hers, his and the truth." Sooner or later, the truth will prevail. Unfortunately it's at the expense of a young daughter.

Totally agree with this. I believe the only innocent one is her..Gosh it makes me glad that I was not born to a celebrity...It was hard enough as it was, imagine in the public eye:sad2:
 
He did do a good job at damage control. It was long overdue.

I'm not writing him off just yet. The old adage is "there's three sides to every story, hers, his and the truth." Sooner or later, the truth will prevail. Unfortunately it's at the expense of a young daughter.
The tape was the truth. This is not a rumor or a "He said/She said" kind of thing.

We all heard it.
 
That's true, I heard it.

I'm referring to the parental alieantion aspect of it all. Does Kim turn off Ireland's phone on purpose so Alec can't reach her? Granted, that doesn't give him the right to call his daughter a pig but you know what? A lot goes on behind closed doors of every household that isn't meant for the public to hear.

This is just a small example of what goes on, not to just those in the limelight, but to us peasants as well.
 
The point is, IMO ~ his real personality is what we heard on the phone - that was him, off camera in real life.

His public personality is what he wants people to think he's like, he's a smooth operator alright.

I wonder if this is all just some diabolical scheme to sell more books and get publicity?
 
That's true, I heard it.

I'm referring to the parental alieantion aspect of it all. Does Kim turn off Ireland's phone on purpose so Alec can't reach her? Granted, that doesn't give him the right to call his daughter a pig
We agree there.

"I really hate my ex-wife" is not an excuse to scream at your daughter that she is a pig.

And I could not care less why he hates his ex.
 
He did do a good job at damage control. It was long overdue.

I'm not writing him off just yet. The old adage is "there's three sides to every story, hers, his and the truth." Sooner or later, the truth will prevail. Unfortunately it's at the expense of a young daughter.

Exactly how I feel.
 
I am wondering what "truth" people are waiting to hear that would make it OK to scream those horrid things at that girl.
 


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