Al Zarqawi "knew what hit him".

Yea,I'm glad he knew it was us that got him,and like others said a quick death was not good enough for this dirtbag.I hope he suffered a little before he died.
 
rayelias said:
Be careful, apparently you're not allowed to contradict any left-wing nut jobs political views if they ever lost a family member to anything remotely related to any decision that George Bush made.

Didn't you read the rules?

This goes for Nick Berg, Cindy Sheehan, and anyone who lost a relative on 9/11 who doesn't like GWB.
:lmao: OK, so anyone who lost a relative on 9/11 who doesn't like GWB is automatically a "left wing nut job"?

Nice. :rolleyes:
 
AnaheimGirl said:
:lmao: OK, so anyone who lost a relative on 9/11 who doesn't like GWB is automatically a "left wing nut job"?

Nice. :rolleyes:
I'm a nut jod,for many more reasons than that I'm left wing... I love it when people call me a bleeding heart liberal ,like it's an insut.. Where exactly is the insult there
 
I would rather have had the guy stand trial AND die in an AMERICAN PRISON, the insult would have been so much more torturous to him and his cause.

I hope this does not make me ANTI-AMERICAN :confused3

disneyfan67 said:
Sadly,there's some in this country that aren't happy that a murderous thug like him is gone. There is a "blame America for everything mentality" and they find no happiness when something good happens, like this thug leaving the planet, forever. I saw some of the replies on another thread and while I knew people like that exsisted, it shocks you just the same. I just don't get that type of mentality and the hate that goes with it. If you can't be happy for your country when something good or postive happens, then you have issues. No matter what some will say, the world is better off without Al Zarqawi killing innocent people.


Yes the world is better off, but if I do not EXUDE HAPPINESS I am full of hate and have a "blame America for everything mentality"???????

Not everything is as black and white as you see it.


rayelias said:
The commandment is NOT "Thou shalt not kill," it's "Thou shalt not MURDER."

Big difference.

Yes that is a big difference, maybe that is why "The Bible" has been modified over the years.

Anyone care to check Exodus 20:13 in a PRE-1973 Bible?
 

DawnCt1 said:
You are not alone. I have heard the comments as well. In fact, Nick Berg's father was rather "out there". I guess we could attribute his comments to psychotic depression.


Nice. Because he doesn't agree with you he must be psychoticially depressed. :rolleyes:
 
DawnCt1 said:
You are not alone. I have heard the comments as well. In fact, Nick Berg's father was rather "out there". I guess we could attribute his comments to psychotic depression.

Why because Michael Berg felt that "...Zarqawi's death will inflame the Iraqi resistance and perpetuate the endless cycle of revenge..."

For not taking Joy in Zarqawi's death he has mental issues????

I may not agree with him totaly but he makes a valid point. If Ann Coutler said that you would bend over backwards to find the "logic".
 
rayelias said:
I don't condone murder.

But, I consider the definition of murder to be the taking of an INNOCENT life, or to kill unlawfully.

The commandment is NOT "Thou shalt not kill," it's "Thou shalt not MURDER."

Big difference.

I'm glad we KILLED him.

Oh, okay that makes it all better then.

To kill and to murder are one in the same IMO. I don't think we, as humans, have the right to kill another - no matter what they've done or how we feel about it. Commandments, and their interpretations, mean nadda to me.

I think this bloodthirsty, hang 'em high mentality is pretty sad.
 
Well I'm not ashamed to admit that It gives me pleasure to think that the last sight he saw was United States Special Ops FOrces looking down on him.
 
transparant said:
Well I'm not ashamed to admit that It gives me pleasure to think that the last sight he saw was United States Special Ops FOrces looking down on him.
You shouldn’t, and you’re free to your opinion, just as someone who believes that killing for any reason is wrong is free to have their opinion as well. The problem comes when people with one viewpoint make comments questioning the mental stability of those they disagree with, instead of debating the actual point being made, as some have done here.
 
Honu said:
Oh, okay that makes it all better then.

To kill and to murder are one in the same IMO. I don't think we, as humans, have the right to kill another - no matter what they've done or how we feel about it. Commandments, and their interpretations, mean nadda to me.

I think this bloodthirsty, hang 'em high mentality is pretty sad.


Please don't take this as a flame, I'm just curious about your thoughts.

Do you equate the killing of Al Zarqawi to the murder of someone like John F. Kennedy or Martin Luther King? To you, is Al Zaquawi's life as valuable as either of those?

Conversely, if Hitler was killed by US troops, would you have been opposed to that?

If you were in a situation where you or your family was being threatened, would you feel justified in using lethal force?

Again, I respect your viewpoint (although I probably don't agree with it), I'm just trying to understand it better.
 
AnaheimGirl said:
:lmao: OK, so anyone who lost a relative on 9/11 who doesn't like GWB is automatically a "left wing nut job"?

Nice. :rolleyes:


That's not an insult. They seem to have their own rule book. If we offer a differing opinion, we apparently sling insults and are fanatical nut jobs, but when they sling it to us, it's not insults at all. They are merely "observations".
 
I'll say it again: I'm happy he's dead. That his worst fears were realized is just icing on the cake.

I'm extremely proud of the American military! Way to go, guys!!! :cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2:

But I'm kinda over the joy of him being dead (he's not all that important, honestly) and now wait for more good news.

Who is going to be next to think, "Is that the Americans catching up with me?" and be right? popcorn::
 
rayelias said:
Please don't take this as a flame, I'm just curious about your thoughts.

Do you equate the killing of Al Zarqawi to the murder of someone like John F. Kennedy or Martin Luther King? To you, is Al Zaquawi's life as valuable as either of those?

Conversely, if Hitler was killed by US troops, would you have been opposed to that?

If you were in a situation where you or your family was being threatened, would you feel justified in using lethal force?

Again, I respect your viewpoint (although I probably don't agree with it), I'm just trying to understand it better.

Don't make me regret getting into this. I can't speak for Honu but I can try to answer your questions.

You can't compair Al Zaquawi's life to that of Kennedy's or King's and you know that. I don't think anyone is saying that the world isn't a better place without Al Zaquawi in it. But I don't understand the Hip Hip Hooray :banana: :cheer2: attitude over killing someone.

If it were my family, yes I think I could use deadly force as a last resort. It it were me or him, of course. I think that is justified, just like I think al Zaquawi's killing is justified. But I certainly wouldn't rejoice at my actions.

How does that make us better than them? We were all horrified at Moussaoui's rejoicing and lack of remorse. People were discusted at his attitude. How is :cool1: :thumbsup2 :cheer2: when discussing al-Zaquawi's death any better.

I don't take the killing of any human being lightly. In this case, I think it was necessary but I do no rejoicing.
 
rayelias said:
Please don't take this as a flame, I'm just curious about your thoughts.

Do you equate the killing of Al Zarqawi to the murder of someone like John F. Kennedy or Martin Luther King? To you, is Al Zaquawi's life as valuable as either of those?

Conversely, if Hitler was killed by US troops, would you have been opposed to that?

If you were in a situation where you or your family was being threatened, would you feel justified in using lethal force?

Again, I respect your viewpoint (although I probably don't agree with it), I'm just trying to understand it better.

The eye for an eye mentality in general just doesn't fly with me. Defending yourself against imminent harm, as would be the case with an intruder to your home, is quite a bit different than planning and scaling an assassination.

I don't defend Zarqawi or his actions. He was a horrible person, but just because he was a murderer that does not give us license to follow suit. And no, I do not differentiate between murder victims.

I just feel like we talk the talk about our country being progressive in the rights of individuals (to a fair trial, etc.), but those ideals only apply when they are convenient to us.
 
Honu said:
Nice. Because he doesn't agree with you he must be psychoticially depressed. :rolleyes:

Despite the fact that a video exists with Zarqawi beheading his son, despite the fact that Zarqawi admitted to beheading his son, he doesn't believe it. "How do we know, because George Bush says so?". Thats a bit divorced from reality, don't you think?
 
Honu said:
The eye for an eye mentality in general just doesn't fly with me. Defending yourself against imminent harm, as would be the case with an intruder to your home, is quite a bit different than planning and scaling an assassination.

I don't defend Zarqawi or his actions. He was a horrible person, but just because he was a murderer that does not give us license to follow suit. And no, I do not differentiate between murder victims.

I just feel like we talk the talk about our country being progressive in the rights of individuals (to a fair trial, etc.), but those ideals only apply when they are convenient to us.


Unbelievable!! Zarqawi was more than "inconvenient" to the Iraqi people. He has the blood of 20,000 of them on his hands. Assassination is a term that usually applies to a head of government, he was nothing more than a terrorist who killed indiscriminately. Don't consider his death "revenge" but more like "preventive medicine". BTW. How do you feel about abortion on demand? Consider his removal a post term abortion.
 
DawnCt1 said:
Despite the fact that a video exists with Zarqawi beheading his son, despite the fact that Zarqawi admitted to beheading his son, he doesn't believe it. "How do we know, because George Bush says so?". Thats a bit divorced from reality, don't you think?

Huh? Did you see the interview? I do think that Nick Berg's father is naive in believing that he could have sat down with Zarqawi and made a difference, but the interview film I saw on Yahoo doesn't remotely fit what you've written here.
 
Honu said:
Huh? Did you see the interview? I do think that Nick Berg's father is naive in believing that he could have sat down with Zarqawi and made a difference, but the interview film I saw on Yahoo doesn't remotely fit what you've written here.

There is a couple of interviews out there. The one I referenced is basically the one with E.D. Hill on Fox News. Yup, he sounded "out of touch".
 
DawnCt1 said:
There is a couple of interviews out there. The one I referenced is basically the one with E.D. Hill on Fox News. Yup, he sounded "out of touch".


I saw him on Larry King and he appeared rational and sane to me. He is a little bitter and we certainly can't blame the man. He marches to his own drummer and I say, let him. Don't diminish the man's grief and imply he is mentally ill just because he doesn't trust the government.
 

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