rayelias said:Be careful, apparently you're not allowed to contradict any left-wing nut jobs political views if they ever lost a family member to anything remotely related to any decision that George Bush made.
Didn't you read the rules?
This goes for Nick Berg, Cindy Sheehan, and anyone who lost a relative on 9/11 who doesn't like GWB.
OK, so anyone who lost a relative on 9/11 who doesn't like GWB is automatically a "left wing nut job"? 
I'm a nut jod,for many more reasons than that I'm left wing... I love it when people call me a bleeding heart liberal ,like it's an insut.. Where exactly is the insult thereAnaheimGirl said:OK, so anyone who lost a relative on 9/11 who doesn't like GWB is automatically a "left wing nut job"?
Nice.![]()
disneyfan67 said:Sadly,there's some in this country that aren't happy that a murderous thug like him is gone. There is a "blame America for everything mentality" and they find no happiness when something good happens, like this thug leaving the planet, forever. I saw some of the replies on another thread and while I knew people like that exsisted, it shocks you just the same. I just don't get that type of mentality and the hate that goes with it. If you can't be happy for your country when something good or postive happens, then you have issues. No matter what some will say, the world is better off without Al Zarqawi killing innocent people.
rayelias said:The commandment is NOT "Thou shalt not kill," it's "Thou shalt not MURDER."
Big difference.
My Torah says Murder,not that you askedAnewman said:I
Anyone care to check Exodus 20:13 in a PRE-1973 Bible?

DawnCt1 said:You are not alone. I have heard the comments as well. In fact, Nick Berg's father was rather "out there". I guess we could attribute his comments to psychotic depression.

DawnCt1 said:You are not alone. I have heard the comments as well. In fact, Nick Berg's father was rather "out there". I guess we could attribute his comments to psychotic depression.
rayelias said:I don't condone murder.
But, I consider the definition of murder to be the taking of an INNOCENT life, or to kill unlawfully.
The commandment is NOT "Thou shalt not kill," it's "Thou shalt not MURDER."
Big difference.
I'm glad we KILLED him.
You shouldnt, and youre free to your opinion, just as someone who believes that killing for any reason is wrong is free to have their opinion as well. The problem comes when people with one viewpoint make comments questioning the mental stability of those they disagree with, instead of debating the actual point being made, as some have done here.transparant said:Well I'm not ashamed to admit that It gives me pleasure to think that the last sight he saw was United States Special Ops FOrces looking down on him.
Honu said:Oh, okay that makes it all better then.
To kill and to murder are one in the same IMO. I don't think we, as humans, have the right to kill another - no matter what they've done or how we feel about it. Commandments, and their interpretations, mean nadda to me.
I think this bloodthirsty, hang 'em high mentality is pretty sad.
AnaheimGirl said:OK, so anyone who lost a relative on 9/11 who doesn't like GWB is automatically a "left wing nut job"?
Nice.![]()

rayelias said:Please don't take this as a flame, I'm just curious about your thoughts.
Do you equate the killing of Al Zarqawi to the murder of someone like John F. Kennedy or Martin Luther King? To you, is Al Zaquawi's life as valuable as either of those?
Conversely, if Hitler was killed by US troops, would you have been opposed to that?
If you were in a situation where you or your family was being threatened, would you feel justified in using lethal force?
Again, I respect your viewpoint (although I probably don't agree with it), I'm just trying to understand it better.
attitude over killing someone.
when discussing al-Zaquawi's death any better. rayelias said:Please don't take this as a flame, I'm just curious about your thoughts.
Do you equate the killing of Al Zarqawi to the murder of someone like John F. Kennedy or Martin Luther King? To you, is Al Zaquawi's life as valuable as either of those?
Conversely, if Hitler was killed by US troops, would you have been opposed to that?
If you were in a situation where you or your family was being threatened, would you feel justified in using lethal force?
Again, I respect your viewpoint (although I probably don't agree with it), I'm just trying to understand it better.
Honu said:Nice. Because he doesn't agree with you he must be psychoticially depressed.![]()
Honu said:The eye for an eye mentality in general just doesn't fly with me. Defending yourself against imminent harm, as would be the case with an intruder to your home, is quite a bit different than planning and scaling an assassination.
I don't defend Zarqawi or his actions. He was a horrible person, but just because he was a murderer that does not give us license to follow suit. And no, I do not differentiate between murder victims.
I just feel like we talk the talk about our country being progressive in the rights of individuals (to a fair trial, etc.), but those ideals only apply when they are convenient to us.
DawnCt1 said:Despite the fact that a video exists with Zarqawi beheading his son, despite the fact that Zarqawi admitted to beheading his son, he doesn't believe it. "How do we know, because George Bush says so?". Thats a bit divorced from reality, don't you think?
Honu said:Huh? Did you see the interview? I do think that Nick Berg's father is naive in believing that he could have sat down with Zarqawi and made a difference, but the interview film I saw on Yahoo doesn't remotely fit what you've written here.
DawnCt1 said:There is a couple of interviews out there. The one I referenced is basically the one with E.D. Hill on Fox News. Yup, he sounded "out of touch".