A little courtesy

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The most annoying thing about this whole thread is that the OP will never come back to comment further. They started the thread with either a "holier than thou" or a "how much trouble can I stir up" motive and walked away.

And the rest of the comments will just be the same as all the previous threads.

> sigh <

:earsboy:

His mommy probably came downstairs and he had to log off really quick...
 
Here's a thought, and this just might be the answer everyone has been looking for.

Perhaps, if someone gets on a bus and there are no empty seats, and for whatever reason (carrying a baby, hidden disability, WHATEVER) would really like to/need to/have to sit down, instead of assuming someone should just KNOW that they need to sit down, maybe they can cast their eye about, approach a likely looking person (I would suggest a male between the ages of 25 and 60), and sweetly, with a humble face and a self deprecating way about them, ASK if they might sit in their seat. Heck, they might even want to TELL them why they'd like to sit there (the baby is so heavy, I just had a hip replaced, I fainted twice today in line for TSM, etc.).

Then, and I'm going out on a limb here, the person being ASKED can gallantly rise to their feet and allow the now graciously appreciative asker to sit. OR, if the person being asked has a reason they don't want to give up their seat, they can politely say 'gosh, I'd love to help, but I'm exhausted/I just had my hip replaced/my mommy told me not to talk to strangers'. At which point the person doing the asking can say something along the lines of 'oh, goodness, I totally understand', which allows a nearby Good Samaritan the opportunity to offer up their seat, OR it allows the original asker to stand graciously, withough glaring at anyone or feeling put upon, and take that moment to reflect on their good fortune that this is the problem they have to deal with, not famine, flood or pestilance.

There now - wasn't that lovely??

KCpirate:
Well now you're just talkin' crazy talk! :lmao::rotfl: ;)
 

I guess I'm one of those old fashioned kind of people (and so is DH). He ALWAYS gives up his seat for any woman, young child, or elderly person. My teenager does the same.

He also opens doors and HOLDS them open for other women to walk through when we are out. (so much that usually I have walked clear to the front of the store before realizing that he is still in the back holding the door open!!!)

If someone offers their seat, or opens a door for you, you have the right to decline but please do so nicely...............usually a "thank you for offering, but..." will be enough.

My husband does the same and I would expect my sons to do the same :)

-M
 
What's really sad to me is the attitude that most of you have on this thread--which is that you're entitled to a seat no matter what, they deserve to stand, who cares about anyone else?, and generally that you're more worried about sitting for 15 minutes instead of making someone else's day. What happened to just being nice? I totally believe in karma, and there may be a day when I can't stand for 15 minutes after a day of walking around, or it hurts me greatly to do so. So, why wouldn't I now, when I can stand for that period of time without any harm to myself, offer my seat to someone older than me, or someone with a small child?

I think about my almost 85 year old grandma going with us to WDW in February. We won't always be together (she is incredibly independent and loves to go off on her own). I really hope that if she got on a full bus that someone kind would offer her seat. Just out of common courtesy, nothing else. I would do it for your grandma. Just because she can walk all day around the parks, doesn't mean that it still isn't nice to offer your seat. So many people are just plain rude.

No, you don't have to do anything, and obviously most of you on this thread wouldn't offer your seat to someone else and that is just pathetic to me. I see so many people on this board complain about the guests who feel entitled when they are at WDW. Well, maybe some of you should start looking the mirror when you start that complaining. I'm so glad my mom raised me to be a nice person. :lovestruc

BTW--this of course, does not include the people with an unseen issue. Have to throw that in there, of course. Don't want to offend anyone. ;)
 
I heard someone who, for no good reason, I assumed was a cast member saying that it is actually Disney policy to make mother's with infants stand on buses. Infants do not buy tickets, don't (usually) eat park food and don't buy much merchandise. So Disney punishes the mothers who bring free-loading infants to the parks by pre-loading buses with off-duty cast members. In fact, I heard that if a bus driver sees a mother with an infant at the front of the line the driver has to call for extra cast members on scooters to load first so the scooter, the cast member and the cast members pretending to be the scooter cast member's family can get on through the back door and fill all the seats. I know its true because I think I heard it from someone who might have been a cast member. Honest.

By the way, I have to question anyone who wants to sit on a bus with standing people. I did that once. After a 30 minute ride spent looking at certain body areas of people who's certain body areas I don't want to be face-to-face with ever again, I willingly stand.
 
I heard someone who, for no good reason, I assumed was a cast member saying that it is actually Disney policy to make mother's with infants stand on buses. Infants do not buy tickets, don't (usually) eat park food and don't buy much merchandise. So Disney punishes the mothers who bring free-loading infants to the parks by pre-loading buses with off-duty cast members. In fact, I heard that if a bus driver sees a mother with an infant at the front of the line the driver has to call for extra cast members on scooters to load first so the scooter, the cast member and the cast members pretending to be the scooter cast member's family can get on through the back door and fill all the seats. I know its true because I think I heard it from someone who might have been a cast member. Honest.

By the way, I have to question anyone who wants to sit on a bus with standing people. I did that once. After a 30 minute ride spent looking at certain body areas of people who's certain body areas I don't want to be face-to-face with ever again, I willingly stand.

This makes no sense . . . at all.
 
You:
  • chose to bring an age-inappropriate child to WDW

  • I can't tell if you are being sarcastic.. otherwise this seems like some sort of oxymoron...

    I think this is a valid question. Are there people who go through life truly thinking that everyone else is wrong, and that they are massively aggrieved by this?
    Plenty. They may be closer than you think ;)

    I am rather sick of people who continue to mock those with hidden disabilities and medical problems.
    Agree!!! Not only because you are awesome :hug: but because it is true. y son had lyme a few years back and nine times out of ten he is fine, but every once in awhile he is in a lot of pain. So yes, usually he would give his seat up since he thinks standing on the bus is almost as much fun as a ride :rolleyes: but some days he can't. And we never know when it will happen

    Agreed. I always find it endearing when men give up their seats. I also find it very heartwarming when I see teenagers, young children and women give up their seats to others.

    No one should EVER expect others to give them a seat. But I applaud those who have the ability to give up their seats and choose to do so.
    Agree with the first part, and the bolded really sums up my opinion as well. My DH and two older kids always offer seats up, but I have never been upset when I had to stand with a baby
 
Ya know, back in the day when my younguns were little enough to tote I would sometimes wait for another bus to come if I was worn out and didn't want to stand on a bus holding a sleepy toddler. Of course they're teens now and it would look odd if I carried them around, but that's another thread...
Waiting for another bus seems like such an obvious and simple concept. If that is not a doable plan for folks then they could always do something wild and crazy like rent a car, within which they would always have a seat.

Yes, giving up one's seat for another guest is a courteous act. But failure to do so is never ever an acceptable cause to be scolded by the DIS etiquette police. The way I look at it, if you are on the bus and have your seat then it is yours to enjoy. I have no right, even if carrying a child, to look longingly at your seat. If one uses the logic of some folks then shouldn't a guest carrying a young child be able to run up to the front of a ride and have you leave your seat for them?
 
I agree. It's about the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

I believe it was a feeble attempt at sarchasm -- the chasm part being the giant gulf between what was said, and the understanding of the people who don't get it.
 
If you don't want to or can't stand, just simply step aside and wait for the next bus so you can have a seat. We've done it many times. These days we prefer to rent a car, it's quicker and more comfortable.
 
Ya know, back in the day when my younguns were little enough to tote I would sometimes wait for another bus to come if I was worn out and didn't want to stand on a bus holding a sleepy toddler. Of course they're teens now and it would look odd if I carried them around, but that's another thread...
Waiting for another bus seems like such an obvious and simple concept. If that is not a doable plan for folks then they could always do something wild and crazy like rent a car, within which they would always have a seat.

Yes, giving up one's seat for another guest is a courteous act. But failure to do so is never ever an acceptable cause to be scolded by the DIS etiquette police. The way I look at it, if you are on the bus and have your seat then it is yours to enjoy. I have no right, even if carrying a child, to look longingly at your seat. If one uses the logic of some folks then shouldn't a guest carrying a young child be able to run up to the front of a ride and have you leave your seat for them?

:worship:
 
What's really sad to me is the attitude that most of you have on this thread--which is that you're entitled to a seat no matter what, they deserve to stand, who cares about anyone else?, and generally that you're more worried about sitting for 15 minutes instead of making someone else's day. What happened to just being nice? I totally believe in karma, and there may be a day when I can't stand for 15 minutes after a day of walking around, or it hurts me greatly to do so. So, why wouldn't I now, when I can stand for that period of time without any harm to myself, offer my seat to someone older than me, or someone with a small child?

BTW--this of course, does not include the people with an unseen issue. Have to throw that in there, of course. Don't want to offend anyone. ;)

But, isn't the other side JUST as guilty of having an entitlement attitude? I mean, they get on a full bus and then expect a seat as well. On top of that they expect someone already on the bus to give up their seat for them. Are they not also being entitled?

Maybe people need to have realistic expectations when they are at Disney. If you NEED a seat, then rent a car. If you NEED a bus seat, then wait for the next bus. If you get on a SRO bus, then expect to stand since there are no seats left. It's called personal responsibility and not relying on others for your safety and comfort.

Ya know, back in the day when my younguns were little enough to tote I would sometimes wait for another bus to come if I was worn out and didn't want to stand on a bus holding a sleepy toddler. Of course they're teens now and it would look odd if I carried them around, but that's another thread...
Waiting for another bus seems like such an obvious and simple concept. If that is not a doable plan for folks then they could always do something wild and crazy like rent a car, within which they would always have a seat.

Now that is just crazy talk! :lmao:
 
One hit and run post by the OP and they get 7 pages. Impressive!
 
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