A little courtesy

[Nancy F]

I'm 56. Should I never get to sit? Everybody has a kid with them. How about someone with an older child getting up to let me sit.
Nancy

 

[Teacher Princess]

I am rather sick of people who continue to mock those with hidden disabilities and medical problems. Some PP's seem to think that "hidden disabilities" are not real and uses the term as a joke. Believe me, the medical bills and physical strain are not a joke. People do have medical problems that cannot be seen with the eye. I have congestive heart failure. I am 32 yrs old. You would never know by looking at me.

I refuse to justify myself to anyone as to why I am sitting in a seat that I waited for, especially if I waited for the next bus to come because the previous one was SRO.

I do not think that I need to carry around my EKGs and Echos and medical records to prove to anyone that I am worthy of sitting in a seat I waited for. I would never expect someone to give up their seat for me. I will wait for the next bus if I am not feeling up to standing on the bus. If I am feeling up to it, I will get on and stand.

Usually in the morning, before I get the parks, I feel ok to stand and I will. I have given up my seat. However, if I am not feeling up to it, I will sit. Dbf, on the other hand, willingly gives up his seat.

 

[MikeandReneePlus5]

Off with their heads

I know, right?

Suck it up I say.

Knee injuries, herniated discs, pregnancy, childhood, paralysis, mental challenge, tiredness...all weak excuses....

 

[DisneyMim]

I did not read the whole thread, and I know I am getting sucked into this, but.......

RENT A CAR!!!!! Honestly it's the parents job to take care of their kids. We have always rented a car and never expected anyone to take care of our kids. Car rentals in Florida are really very inexpensive. We also were one of those rare parents who when we took the monorail actually FOLDED up any stroller we used and put our kids on our laps unlike some of the parent today who walk on the monorail with their huge strollers, take the kids out so they can sit and then put the empty stroller in the middle of the monorail blocking everyone. Disney tries very hard (IMHO) to provide transportation, but it's not perfect. Buses, and monorails don't run as fast as need be and let's face it, everyone it tired at the end of the day. EVERYONE deserves a seat. We've been going to WDW forever and found that the best thing is to rent a car. Period.

 

[Magpie]

I'm 56. Should I never get to sit? Everybody has a kid with them. How about someone with an older child getting up to let me sit.
Nancy

I agree, actually!

I allowed my kids to start offering their seats from the time they were about five - they were tall kids and standing on the bus was a treat. Keeping your footing is almost like a ride in itself, and it made them feel grown up.

All the positive feedback quickly got them hooked, though they both went through a brief period in early adolescence when they were a little too shy to offer right away. It was hilarious to watch - they'd sort of bob in their seats, a few inches up, down again, heads sticking way up, trying to figure out if the old person actually wanted the seat or if they'd be offended at being considered "old". They're a lot more confident about talking to strangers now.

 

[WDSearcher]

A few days ago I was walking out of a store and a guy was holding open a door for the woman behind him. She reached out, pushed his hand away, took the door handle, and said, "I can open my own damn door".

Is it any wonder why people don't do nice things for each other any more?

 

[DisneysPrincess25]

Ouch! My sympathies.

I would've definitely given you my seat, if I'd seen your boyfriend and you stagger onto the bus.

haha thankfully I'm only 105 lbs so it was that bad.

 

[furb & dez]

Another thought:

The OP is positing that, in a bus containing perhaps 70 people, 69 of those people are in the wrong, and she, and she alone, is the only person in the right.

What are the odds? Is that amazing? Or is it just delusional narcissism?

I think this is a valid question. Are there people who go through life truly thinking that everyone else is wrong, and that they are massively aggrieved by this?

 

[Praying Colonel]

This topic never gets discussed, and no one makes the same points over and over, eventually escalating into personal attacks until a mod locks the thread. Never, ever happens.

 

[JoshuaShaw]

A few days ago I was walking out of a store and a guy was holding open a door for the woman behind him. She reached out, pushed his hand away, took the door handle, and said, "I can open my own damn door".

She'll never win a man that way.

 

[gator girl]

This topic never gets discussed, and no one makes the same points over and over, eventually escalating into personal attacks until a mod locks the thread. Never, ever happens.

Hey, don't blame me. I tried to derail it with a criticism of the OP's spelling but no one took me up on it.

 

[Anjelica]

A few days ago I was walking out of a store and a guy was holding open a door for the woman behind him. She reached out, pushed his hand away, took the door handle, and said, "I can open my own damn door".

Is it any wonder why people don't do nice things for each other any more?

That's sad.....I always thought it was nice that some of the gentlemen in the office wait for the ladies to board the elevator before they board.

 

[Magpie]

That's sad.....I always thought it was nice that some of the gentlemen in the office wait for the ladies to board the elevator before they board.

My husband does that, and opens doors, too... I'm not very observant though, so there's been a couple cases in which I thought he was opening the door for me, when actually he was opening it for some elderly person going the other way. So we both end up stuck in the door at the same time while he has a good laugh.

He also walks on the outside, not because he's worried I'll get a chamber pot dumped on my head in a medieval town, but so that he can push me out of the way if a car jumps the curb. And you know what? That actually happened to us about two years ago. He saved my life!

 

[Bonnie151]

Why does everyone assume all of us *want* a seat? When I was pregnant/carrying a baby/toddler, I was perfectly happy standing. Sometimes someone would offer me a seat which was very nice/generous/thoughtful, but I was fine without one!

 

[KellyNY]

Don't we all love bus thread, seriously c'mon, old songs.

I personally never got it. How someone can get on full bus with baby on hands or in belly, carrying things like stroller and rely on mercy of the strangers. Another bus will come, it is not a life boat.

If we talk about manners then it is only polite not to expect others to do what you think is right, giving THEIR seat to YOU.

Everyone is tired at the end of the day and yes being there first is enough to keep your seat, no disability required and no justification to your actions needed. Yes it is nice to give your seat to someone you believe needs it more then you but not giving a seat is not a crime, you just as tired as they are.

BTW, hints, dirty looks and comments usually do not help.
Also, no need to make fun of hidden disabilities, nobody need to justify themselves in a first place, just adjust yourself to the world, not the other way around.

 

[bowbat]

If someone is capable of walking around Disney all day, they are capable of standing on a bus.

 

[ocalla]

I guess I'm one of those old fashioned kind of people (and so is DH). He ALWAYS gives up his seat for any woman, young child, or elderly person. My teenager does the same.

He also opens doors and HOLDS them open for other women to walk through when we are out. (so much that usually I have walked clear to the front of the store before realizing that he is still in the back holding the door open!!!)

If someone offers their seat, or opens a door for you, you have the right to decline but please do so nicely...............usually a "thank you for offering, but..." will be enough.

 

[ChattaAlley]

This is a song that doesn't end it just goes on and on my friend . . . .

 

[stamot]

i think there are reasons and there are options. Everyone have their own opinion.

And so it begins again.

First question...are you the woman with the baby or one of the people that got up and gave your seat to them?

Second question...when you make a blanket condemnation of people do you at least consider that some of the bad mannered, lack of courtesy folks might have problems themselves that aren't as visible as the baby thing. For example, if I see a woman with an infant standing on a bus at Disney my first thought is "what in the hell are you doing here with an infant?". Since I won't get an answer for that, I will probably offer my seat. In spite of the fact that I am 63 years old, my feet, knees and hips are screaming in pain from over use and I am as tired and cranky as any toddler you can find.

If, however, the child is big enough to stand on his/her own...my pain will override my concern. The point is that my problems are merely marginal...a lot of others that you are judging have more extreme problems and the lady with the baby probably has youth on their side. Because someone made the decision to have a baby and then bring it to Disney does not constitute rights to a seat. It's all on an individual basis.

Oh, another thing...if the aforementioned lady with baby looks at me like I'm jack the ripper or makes comments about how I should give up my seat on the bus or how I have no manners or courtesy...well, a gun to my head wouldn't get me to stand up. We get really stubborn as we age.

Love it!

If someone is capable of walking around Disney all day, they are capable of standing on a bus.

Ditto

 

[KCMiller]

Here's a thought, and this just might be the answer everyone has been looking for.

Perhaps, if someone gets on a bus and there are no empty seats, and for whatever reason (carrying a baby, hidden disability, WHATEVER) would really like to/need to/have to sit down, instead of assuming someone should just KNOW that they need to sit down, maybe they can cast their eye about, approach a likely looking person (I would suggest a male between the ages of 25 and 60), and sweetly, with a humble face and a self deprecating way about them, ASK if they might sit in their seat. Heck, they might even want to TELL them why they'd like to sit there (the baby is so heavy, I just had a hip replaced, I fainted twice today in line for TSM, etc.).

Then, and I'm going out on a limb here, the person being ASKED can gallantly rise to their feet and allow the now graciously appreciative asker to sit. OR, if the person being asked has a reason they don't want to give up their seat, they can politely say 'gosh, I'd love to help, but I'm exhausted/I just had my hip replaced/my mommy told me not to talk to strangers'. At which point the person doing the asking can say something along the lines of 'oh, goodness, I totally understand', which allows a nearby Good Samaritan the opportunity to offer up their seat, OR it allows the original asker to stand graciously, withough glaring at anyone or feeling put upon, and take that moment to reflect on their good fortune that this is the problem they have to deal with, not famine, flood or pestilance.

There now - wasn't that lovely??

KC