A little courtesy

[ccgirl]

I say this as a pregnant woman with a baby who will be heading to Disney in a week..... If you can't stand on a bus for 10-15 minutes then maybe Disney World isn't the best place for you to be vacationing.

This. I'm sure these people who are expecting seats were just fine walking around the park and standing in lines in excess of 15 minutes. Often, while holding their children. So, why can't they then stand on the bus as well?

Again, I am not a fan of mass transportation in general so we rent a car unless we are staying at one of the Epcot resorts.

 

[MikeandReneePlus5]

I, for one, have had it with the ridiculous pandering to pregnant women, children, and elderly.

 

[ChattaAlley]

I, for one, have had it with the ridiculous pandering to pregnant women, children, and elderly.

Off with their heads

 

[livndisney]

Enough about giving up your seat on the bus. Who wants to give up their seat on TSM?

Hey I "deserve" it

 

[ccgirl]

And, if you really "need" a seat due to disability, show the driver the GAD cards and I'm sure he would ask the people in the handicapped accessible seats to move. As to why my children seat it is because they deserve a seat just as much as everyone else. Quite frankly, I have probably been carrying them for a good part of the day. Plus, they like feeling like "big" people and sitting on their own. Everyone has an equal "right" to the site regardless of age, gender etc.

 

[Disneyhayes]

What I don't understand is why parents let their young children sit on their own seat when the busses are very crowded instead of sitting on the parent's lap. I was in Disney 2 years ago and if anyone was standing I had my 9 yr old sit on my lap in order to free up a seat (mind you she was a small 9 year old!) But I saw children as young as 3 sitting BESIDE their parents while other people had to stand.

I'm going again end of January and my now 11 year old (still smallish!) will be on my lap once again. Good excuse to cuddle!

I will tell you that I didn't put my DD2 or DD3 on my lap since we were holding 2 strollers and a rediculous amount of bags since we brought way too much crap that we were totally going to need to make our trip easier. I did however put my kids in a seat next to the end of the row then shoved them in so we 3 sat in 2 seats. My husband stood on crowded buses in front of us. This trip DD3 isn't going and neither is the large amount of crap that we didn't use so we should be able to stack up a bit.

 

[kathleendsm]

We were in WDW last week during the busy Thanksgiving holiday. Several times on the way to or from the MK the buses were packed. But we got on, with me holding DS (3 years old, special needs so a bit tippy), and I was totally fine with standing: I can hold on with one arm and hold him with the other, or let him stand and hold onto him with one arm. Never once did I get the opportunity: EVERY SINGLE TIME at least one person immediately stood when I got on the bus and offered me their seat. Actually, usually it was several people including a few teenaged boys. One boy was obviously hoping someone would take his seat, he kept offering and it took him several people to find one who would accept it!

Maybe I'm just lucky, but everyone on the buses is extremely courteous and kind to us. And when I accept the offer of a seat, I put DS on my lap.

 

[disneyjunkie]

I was always taught to be courteous and polite.

I was taught those two things as well. But my parents added a third to the lesson -- personal responsibility

 

[furb & dez]

You:

• chose to bring an age-inappropriate child to WDW
• chose to use public transportation
• chose not to rent a car to ensure your comfort

I:

• choose to ignore your whining and suggest you actually plan to take care of yourself, instead of inconveniencing others for your own selfishness

I absolutely do not believe in chivalry; I believe in equality (you cannot have both equality and chivalry, as chivalry is inherently inequal). You have the exact same opportunities as I do to ensure your own comfort. You have the exact same opportunities as I do to get on an attraction, to wait in line, to use the restroom, to visit a restaurant, etc., etc., etc. The fact that you chose not to take care or plan for your needs (on a VACATION) is not my problem.

It has nothing to do with rudeness, it has to do with YOUR selfishness (so, in a way, I guess it has to do with YOUR rudeness ).

I'm sure within the next 10 posts they'll be someone saying "well, maybe she can't AFFORD to rent a car (etc.)," which I'll counter with: If you can't afford to take care of yourself, why are you on a VACATION, which by definition is a luxury?

 

[mesaboy2]

I think Mike's joy is to start contentious threads then sit back and watch people get their knickers in a twist.

 

[JoshuaShaw]

When you expect someone to do something, it's no longer an act of courtesy, it's an obligation.

That said, I'll always give up my seat for someone in need, not because I'm supposed to, but because it's the gentlemanly thing to do.

 

[Magpie]

We were in WDW last week during the busy Thanksgiving holiday. Several times on the way to or from the MK the buses were packed. But we got on, with me holding DS (3 years old, special needs so a bit tippy), and I was totally fine with standing: I can hold on with one arm and hold him with the other, or let him stand and hold onto him with one arm. Never once did I get the opportunity: EVERY SINGLE TIME at least one person immediately stood when I got on the bus and offered me their seat. Actually, usually it was several people including a few teenaged boys. One boy was obviously hoping someone would take his seat, he kept offering and it took him several people to find one who would accept it!

Maybe I'm just lucky, but everyone on the buses is extremely courteous and kind to us. And when I accept the offer of a seat, I put DS on my lap.

Clearly his parents have raised him badly - they probably started him down the wrong path by putting him on their laps when he was a toddler to free up a seat for some undeserving person. He should have been holding onto that seat with both hands. After all, if an old person, crippled person, pregnant woman, or parent with babe in arms, is standing it's their own darn fault. Accommodating them will only encourage them to keep coming to Disney and increase the surplus population on TSM.

Bah, humbug!

 

[janabananas]

I am rather sick of people who continue to mock those with hidden disabilities and medical problems. Some PP's seem to think that "hidden disabilities" are not real and uses the term as a joke. Believe me, the medical bills and physical strain are not a joke. People do have medical problems that cannot be seen with the eye. I have congestive heart failure. I am 32 yrs old. You would never know by looking at me.

I refuse to justify myself to anyone as to why I am sitting in a seat that I waited for, especially if I waited for the next bus to come because the previous one was SRO.

I do not think that I need to carry around my EKGs and Echos and medical records to prove to anyone that I am worthy of sitting in a seat I waited for. I would never expect someone to give up their seat for me. I will wait for the next bus if I am not feeling up to standing on the bus. If I am feeling up to it, I will get on and stand.

Usually in the morning, before I get the parks, I feel ok to stand and I will. I have given up my seat. However, if I am not feeling up to it, I will sit. Dbf, on the other hand, willingly gives up his seat.

 

[DisneysPrincess25]

Oh no, not this again.

my thoughts exactly

 

[Anjelica]

When you expect someone to do something, it's no longer an act of courtesy, it's an obligation.

That said, I'll always give up my seat for someone in need, not because I'm supposed to, but because it's the gentlemanly thing to do.

Agreed. I always find it endearing when men give up their seats. I also find it very heartwarming when I see teenagers, young children and women give up their seats to others.

No one should EVER expect others to give them a seat. But I applaud those who have the ability to give up their seats and choose to do so.

 

[kathleendsm]

No one should EVER expect others to give them a seat. But I applaud those who have the ability to give up their seats and choose to do so.

ITA.

And, if you really "need" a seat due to disability, show the driver the GAD cards and I'm sure he would ask the people in the handicapped accessible seats to move. As to why my children seat it is because they deserve a seat just as much as everyone else. Quite frankly, I have probably been carrying them for a good part of the day. Plus, they like feeling like "big" people and sitting on their own. Everyone has an equal "right" to the site regardless of age, gender etc.

FYI, the GAC does not work on the buses. Only at rides and certain shows.

 

[DisneysPrincess25]

For someone bringing their bad knee or recent hip surgery to Disney - be warned! You may fully intend to secure a seat for yourself, but nothing's guaranteed.

so true! I was there in October with my bf and he had knee surgery over the summer. When we first booked our trip we didn't know he was going to need the surgery. i kept saying we should cancel but he didn't want to. We had to stand almost every night on the bus and neither of us complained. I thought I broke my foot the one day when someone pushed me down and then had people running on top of me with baby strollers. I couldn't even walk and my bf had to carry me out of the park with his bad knees. but we survived and so will all the others who have to stand on the buses

 

[Magpie]

I am rather sick of people who continue to mock those with hidden disabilities and medical problems. Some PP's seem to think that "hidden disabilities" are not real and uses the term as a joke. Believe me, the medical bills and physical strain are not a joke. People do have medical problems that cannot be seen with the eye. I have congestive heart failure. I am 32 yrs old. You would never know by looking at me.

I refuse to justify myself to anyone as to why I am sitting in a seat that I waited for, especially if I waited for the next bus to come because the previous one was SRO.

I do not think that I need to carry around my EKGs and Echos and medical records to prove to anyone that I am worthy of sitting in a seat I waited for. I would never expect someone to give up their seat for me. I will wait for the next bus if I am not feeling up to standing on the bus. If I am feeling up to it, I will get on and stand.

Usually in the morning, before I get the parks, I feel ok to stand and I will. I have given up my seat. However, if I am not feeling up to it, I will sit. Dbf, on the other hand, willingly gives up his seat.

Believe me, if you felt mocked by any of my posts, they were not directed at you. They were directed at the notion that everyone on the bus has some "hidden disability" or otherwise deserves that seat because they were smarter or faster or better people somehow than the standees.

You stand, when your health allows it. Your boyfriend stands, willingly. Both of you clearly suffer from a skewed sense of priorities. Next time, hang onto your seat and let the chips (and babies) fall where they may.

 

[Magpie]

so true! I was there in October with my bf and he had knee surgery over the summer. When we first booked our trip we didn't know he was going to need the surgery. i kept saying we should cancel but he didn't want to. We had to stand almost every night on the bus and neither of us complained. I thought I broke my foot the one day when someone pushed me down and then had people running on top of me with baby strollers. I couldn't even walk and my bf had to carry me out of the park with his bad knees. but we survived and so will all the others who have to stand on the buses

Ouch! My sympathies.

I would've definitely given you my seat, if I'd seen your boyfriend and you stagger onto the bus.

 

[PIRATEGIRL007]

We just returned from our trip 11/25-11/29 and didn't really see this to be that much of a problem. We did see plenty of parents with kids letting others bypass them in the bus line so they could wait for a seat and we saw lots of instances of others offering up thier seats. Even saw a cute exchange in which dad told his daughter about 6-8 yrs old that she could stand (she was begging to) to offer her seat to a lady. The lady declined b/c the child was young and he said she can stand she is young and has the energy to stand. The lady looked at him and said hey are you calling me old and then we all
cracked up.


We did take a few trips to the Epcot resorts via the boatds from DHS and Epcot and they were crowded and we did not see any instances of people offering up seats and saw a few letting thier kiddos stretch out across the seats while others stood or park thier strollers in front of the seats at the back blocking them from others being able to use them.