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[sully&mike]

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[ArwenMarie]

I don't blame you for being a little weirded out.

When you moved away, did they keep taking pictures of your kids? Or were they really focused on the characters?

Still odd though. That's fine if people love the characters, but you have to be aware of when you're going into creepy territory.

 

[Laketravis]

Yeah, I'd have a problem with it.

For one, WDW is not "public property" - it's private property.

For another, it's not possible to ascertain the purpose of the photo (commercial use? private use?)

Only Disney as the owner of the property reserves the right to capture and use photographic images of any park guest.

For anyone else and in all other cases under similar conditions parental permission would be required to take a picture of someone's kid.

 

[kittyab]

My DD had her photo taken with Snow White at Epcot and the CM would make people stop taking photos of other people's children.

 

[dachsie]

I cam upon a child having a really sweet interaction with ALice one day. the scene was so cute, I just snapped a pic. I never thought anything about it until you posted this. I wasnt looking at it as taking a pic of someone's child, just taking a pic of the moment. I just snapped one pic and it sounds like the people you encountered were taking multiple which would kinda be worrisome. I guess I should think about this post next time I see something like that I want a pic of

 

[ArwenMarie]

Yeah, I'd have a problem with it.

For one, WDW is not "public property" - it's private property.

For another, it's not possible to ascertain the purpose of the photo (commercial use? private use?)

Only Disney as the owner of the property reserves the right to capture and use photographic images of any park guest.

For anyone else and in all other cases under similar conditions parental permission would be required to take a picture of someone's kid.

To take a picture of someone's kid? What if I am taking a picture of my kid and another kid is in the background?

I don't know the laws on this, just curious. I think it's impossible to take any pictures at WDW without people/kids in the background.

Although I do think it's odd to do what the OP described, whether legal or not.

 

[Moonwolf]

I admit that I've inadvertently done this. Not at Disney but at Universal. I was trying to get a pic of the stationary Hogwarts express but there was steady stream of kids hopping in front of it to take pictures with the conductor (there was no line for the pic just the conductor calling kids from the group that had formed around him/parents putting their kids forward). I did my best to try to snap the pic "between kids switching" but I think I accidentally got a child or two in the frame.

 

[sully&mike]

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[Laketravis]

To take a picture of someone's kid? What if I am taking a picture of my kid and another kid is in the background?

I don't know the laws on this, just curious. I think it's impossible to take any pictures at WDW without people/kids in the background.

Although I do think it's odd to do what the OP described, whether legal or not.

The definition is that the child is a predominant subject of the photo. Being part of a crowd would not be considered as such, being the only child in a photograph of a character would be.

Any defense of implied permission ("I'm taking a picture of the character and your child just happens to be in it") is removed when the parent implicitly objects. Under those circumstances, the right thing to do is delete the photo.

 

[kaytieeldr]

http://communications-media.lawyers...or-videotaping-consent-laws-are-changing.html
http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/florida-right-publicity-law
http://www.lawguru.com/legal-questi...rights-photographing-children-high-883299564/

While Walt Disney World isn't public property the way a city-owned park or a government building are, it's also not private property the way someone's fenced-in back yard is. While you've r child may be in a photo clearly taken of a character, that child isn't the focus or purpose of the picture.

If the child were the intended subject, the photographer wouldn't be at a character area. You probably wouldn't even know. http://www.guntheranderson.com/v/data/forwhati.htm

 

[Richard M Nixon]

From a quick search online of the laws around this, it looks like a few states have been considering some kind of "don't photograph my child" law, but there is no such law on the books in Florida. Like it or not, there is no parental permission needed for photography and despite the property itself being private, there is no reasonable expectation for privacy and there is nothing you can do to stop people from taking pictures other than standing in their line of sight. Of course, I am not a lawyer so there may be something I'm missing.

Even so, I would be wary of confronting someone publicly even if they are obviously taking a picture of a kid. Are you trying to publicly call them out as a pedophile? I would imagine that making accusations against a person's character may cause an altercation to ensure, which is probably not what anyone wants while in the most magical place on earth. Personally I wouldn't risk the possibility of instigating something with a stranger in case they reacted in a way that was disproportional to what was said to them, but I know some people are very protective of their kids so the risk may be worth it.

Just remember that they aren't breaking the law and be careful not to break it yourself in trying to stop someone.

 

[Angel Ariel]

First, when we saw Baymax. A man with his camera was taking pictures of our children. We noticed it and one of the moms in our party stood in front of him and he just moved and kept taking pictures. I asked him what he was doing and he said "I'm not taking pictures of your kids, I'm taking pictures of Baymax". There was just so much confusion with photopasses and getting moms in the picture, he ran out of there before I could raise it to the attendant's attention.

Obviously I can't speak to what this particular man was doing, but I have taken pictures of the character when they are with another family - BUT I *assure* you that the family/child was never in the picture, *only* the character was. This was before I realized the characters would pose for you by themselves (w/o me or DH in the picture) as well as pose with us.

Again - I want to make this crystal clear - I *never* took photos of the children or the families. I was getting close up head shots of the character - no other family or person was in the picture, only the character. If I could not get a shot with only the character, I did not take the photo. Had any family or CM asked, I would have been happy to show them the photos to put them at ease.

As I said, I don't do this anymore as I now realize the characters are happy to pose for me alone before taking a photo with me.

I will, however, sometimes still take pictures of the general set (again not the family or child) to get the settings on my camera right so that my photos turn out well and I don't have to delay the family behind me to set them. I delete these photos immediately, and generally try to "talk" to DH or whoever is with me about fixing the settings in an effort to assure the people around me I'm not taking pictures of them or their child.

I completely agree that taking pictures of another family/child is inappropriate - which is why I do not do that at all. However, there are times when another person might *think* I am doing just that, when I am not actually doing that.

 

[ORMom2Four]

That is strange, the lady taking photos with the ipad!

I have taken a few test shots with my camera of other interactions to try to get my camera settings correct before my children get their turn. The lighting is strange in those rooms and I'm not a good photographer--so I need to see which setting is right

 

[Angel Ariel]

I also think it's worth noting that anyone who participates in ETWB is allowing their child's photo to be shared with anyone else who was at that show. The photopass card you get loads every photopass picture that was taken during that show - of every participant of the show.

Some may not have a problem with this, others might. I did find it a bit odd to add it to my MM account and see all of these other kids pop up. But I understand that they can't individualize the cards there as regular photopass photographers do. I deleted all of those photos, except for DH (who was a suit of armor), but who knows who else kept them?

 

[mi*vida*loca]

It wouldn't bother me. I'm not an oversharer either. I don't have a FB. I'm probably more private than most people.

I'm sure me and my children are in hundreds of WDW pics. Also, like a PP mentioned, your kids are in the pics at ETWB.

 

[siskaren]

I used to do this all the time because I wanted pictures of the characters, but either wasn't interested in standing in line or maybe I thought that I couldn't (or shouldn't) because I was an adult without kids. But I haven't done it in a long time because I know that some parents don't like it.

 

[mom2rtk]

I've been annoyed by this in the past. I was literally bumping elbows with someone once while we were meeting with Aurora at Fantasy Faire at Disneyland. The dad from the group ahead of us stayed around to take shots of Aurora with my daughter. And I could not move around to get the shots I wanted without bumping into him.

Probably no law against it, but I do find it creepy.

I have had CMs lean over before and ask if a certain person was in our party and when I said no, they would go stand in front of their camera. I appreciated that, but don't expect that they don't always have the time to do this.

Any moment someone will show up and say "It's Disney. Your kids are going to end up in someone else's photos." But there's a huge difference between accidentally showing up in the background and purposely taking a shot with someone else's child as the subject of the photo (or alone with a character in the shot).

 

[ktlm]

We have been taking DD to WDW and DL since she was 2 and this happens all the time. It doesn't bother me. I think most people are just trying to get a picture of the character. I've seen adults off to the side try to snap pictures between kids, and I've seen them just snap while kids are up there. I assume some of those just think they are at WDW and should have a picture showing a character even if there are random kids in it. They probably think nothing of it as pretty much any time you take of photo of an area of WDW from any distance there are going to be random kids in the photo. Others, I'm sure are zooming on the character and not getting the kid in the photo. I think some people who like photography do see a kid interacting and think it would make a cute photo and don't really even think about the fact that it might bother some parents. We've also noticed that it happens a lot with foreign individuals too. We have actually had people ask us a few times if it was okay to get a photo with DD in it- some who spoke very little English. My MIL used to do photography, and I'm pretty sure at times she has used her camera do to a close up of a characters face while there was a child with the character, not getting the child in the frame at all.

 

[ktlm]

I've been annoyed by this in the past. I was literally bumping elbows with someone once while we were meeting with Aurora at Fantasy Faire at Disneyland. The dad from the group ahead of us stayed around to take shots of Aurora with my daughter. And I could not move around to get the shots I wanted without bumping into him.
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I'm pretty sure that is because you make the most amazing costumes I've ever seen!!! (and your kid is cute too!). I can see lots of people being so impressed by the costumes that they want to photograph them.

 

[Magpie]

I once grabbed a quick pick of Mary Poppin's penguins, while walking by during a Christmas party. I would have waited in line to see them, but the line was already closed. I have a friend who is a huge penguin fan, and I wanted the pic for her.

Yes, I got someone's child in the pic.

I didn't think about it at the time because, personally, if it were my child, I wouldn't care. I have no concerns about people taking pictures of my children.

I did however, take the picture from a distance, because I didn't want to get in anyone's way or disturb the interaction. Sticking an ipad in front of the parent sounds immensely rude. And you should definitely not be bumping elbows with them, either!

I also understand that some people are VERY protective of their children's images. I was once telling a person about the Wild Africa Trek, and she was all set to do it with her 11 year old... until I mentioned the Photopass CD and she realized that every single person on the Trek with her would be taking home pictures of her child. At which point she got very upset and said that under no circumstances would she be SO careless as to allow strangers to have pictures of her child. (Because they might use it to track him down?)

I wonder if she did Enchanted Tales with Belle?