You might get a thousand dollars stimulus package

[yooperfan]

Understood, but they stated ( forgot the woman's name) that the income was based on their 2019 filing - obviously misspoke as last day to file 2019 is April 15, 2020 as you stated

Don't need it. Don't want it. Hate to think about placing the next generation in even greater debt for it. Will donate whatever we receive.

what a great idea...maybe buy food for a food banks?

 

[luvsJack]

And since they're using 2018, there's also a whole lot of young adults who were full time students, maybe working unpaid internships, etc. who won't meet the income qualification even though they're losing income that they depend upon now. Neither of my kids will qualify because of that. DS was in college in 2018, and being dyslexic and having had a hard time with school right along, we made it clear to him that we wanted that to be his focus. Not some minimum wage job. So he didn't work that year. But now he's working full time and then some, 60+ hour weeks, which is soon to drop to zero. Instead of buying a home, he's planning to use the money he'd saved for his down payment to keep up with his car insurance and cell phone payments. But he gets no help because he's too new to the full time workforce. Likewise, my daughter - who has already had to quit her waitressing job, where she's been averaging $20+/hour, because her campus closed and she had to come home - won't get anything because she wasn't even old enough to have a job for the first 8 months of 2018.

The whole plan is terrible. We're a median income family of five. I'd describe our income tax liability as "low", so I expect we'd get the reduced benefit (though they haven't put a number on it yet). As will most of the people being hit the hardest by this, either because they're in lower-paid retail and food service jobs or because they have several children and all the new expenses that go along with the schools being closed. And anyone new to the workforce gets nothing. It is like they sat down and designed a plan to provide the least benefit to the people who need it most!

Oh gosh! You are right! Several of our grads will be in that exact position!

 

[luvsJack]

Anyone wanting to use it to help others—gift cards or meals purchased for truck drivers would be great. They are working long and hard to make sure products are put back on the shelves. And in some areas it’s getting hard for them to find a place to eat.

 

[yooperfan]

And since they're using 2018, there's also a whole lot of young adults who were full time students, maybe working unpaid internships, etc. who won't meet the income qualification even though they're losing income that they depend upon now. Neither of my kids will qualify because of that. DS was in college in 2018, and being dyslexic and having had a hard time with school right along, we made it clear to him that we wanted that to be his focus. Not some minimum wage job. So he didn't work that year. But now he's working full time and then some, 60+ hour weeks, which is soon to drop to zero. Instead of buying a home, he's planning to use the money he'd saved for his down payment to keep up with his car insurance and cell phone payments. But he gets no help because he's too new to the full time workforce. Likewise, my daughter - who has already had to quit her waitressing job, where she's been averaging $20+/hour, because her campus closed and she had to come home - won't get anything because she wasn't even old enough to have a job for the first 8 months of 2018.

The whole plan is terrible. We're a median income family of five. I'd describe our income tax liability as "low", so I expect we'd get the reduced benefit (though they haven't put a number on it yet). As will most of the people being hit the hardest by this, either because they're in lower-paid retail and food service jobs or because they have several children and all the new expenses that go along with the schools being closed. And anyone new to the workforce gets nothing. It is like they sat down and designed a plan to provide the least benefit to the people who need it most!

If you claimed either on your taxes you should receive some monetary check for them, hopefully that should help. Sure wish I could find a $20 per hour job, good for her. Hopefully people will do what needs to be done so we can get back to jobs/school etc. stay strong.

 

[sam_gordon]

Assuming we get some money, I'd put in an emergency fund. We won't spend it unless we need it until AFTER taxes are filed in 2021. I fully expect this to be a "loan" or "taxable income" that will require sending at least some of it back to the government.

 

[Colleen27]

I agree! One of my Michigan news sources (ok, Mlive) had an article about Michigan banning alcohol (I guess a couple of states have already) and our Governor right now has not made that decision. What the heck??? I don't care if someone partakes in just a glass of wine or a case of beer a day. What the heck does banning alcohol have ANYthing to do with this virus and "social distancing".

It was nothing more than click-bait, honestly. The states that are "shutting down alcohol sales" are states that still have stand-alone liquor stores. They aren't targeting alcohol, they're simply closing non-essential retail... and unlike here in Michigan, where buy our booze in the same places we buy our groceries, their state liquor laws are set up in a way that renders alcohol outlets non-essential. The closest we're likely to come here is a shut down of microbreweries, distilleries and wineries that aren't already covered by the restaurant closure order (though I think they'd have been covered in the order that shut down theatres and libraries and such), because they're gathering places even if they don't serve food.

 

[Searc]

Don't need it. Don't want it. Hate to think about placing the next generation in even greater debt for it. Will donate whatever we receive.

I'm taking a wild guess, but I don't think you'd qualify.

 

[Searc]

Anyone wanting to use it to help others—gift cards or meals purchased for truck drivers would be great. They are working long and hard to make sure products are put back on the shelves. And in some areas it’s getting hard for them to find a place to eat.

Yes, because most places are now drive thru only, truckers can't get anything to eat there. If you see a trucker sitting in the parking lot, please offer to drive thru to get food for them!

 

[Searc]

Assuming we get some money, I'd put in an emergency fund. We won't spend it unless we need it until AFTER taxes are filed in 2021. I fully expect this to be a "loan" or "taxable income" that will require sending at least some of it back to the government.

For sure. This is not free money.

 

[Colleen27]

If you claimed either on your taxes you should receive some monetary check for them, hopefully that should help. Sure wish I could find a $20 per hour job, good for her. Hopefully people will do what needs to be done so we can get back to jobs/school etc. stay strong.

She goes to college in the Bay Area, so the money really isn't as good as it sounds. San Francisco doesn't allow a lower wage for tipped wait staff, so she was making $15.xx as her base rate whether she was hostessing or waitressing on any given shift. But her manager likes her and saw she's good with people, so she'd been waitressing most of the time since she got back from Christmas break.

I'm hoping that the political process ends up producing a much better plan than this initial idea. We probably would get something for the kids, because they were both dependents, but the fact that so many of the people losing the most right now would get a lower-tier benefit because they were less well-off before the crisis really doesn't sit right with me. Especially since right now, the payment and eviction and foreclosure halts are only a halt on the process, not the payments, so those same people are going to get hit with 2-3 months (or more) worth of bills all at once when things do start going back to normal.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

It was nothing more than click-bait, honestly. The states that are "shutting down alcohol sales" are states that still have stand-alone liquor stores. They aren't targeting alcohol, they're simply closing non-essential retail... and unlike here in Michigan, where buy our booze in the same places we buy our groceries, their state liquor laws are set up in a way that renders alcohol outlets non-essential. The closest we're likely to come here is a shut down of microbreweries, distilleries and wineries that aren't already covered by the restaurant closure order (though I think they'd have been covered in the order that shut down theatres and libraries and such), because they're gathering places even if they don't serve food.

In KS they have curbside now because they were worried about the impact to those businesses and KS has been so weird about alcohol in the past. They amended the law temporarily in regards to how liquor is allowed to be brought and bought off premise. There's some rules in there like it has to be within 50ft of the liquor store OR bar OR restaurant all three of which this is allowed now for curbside. It also applies to farm wineries, microbreweries, microdistilleries and producers.

I read Alabama closed liquor stores but is allowing curbside whereas PA closed all liquor stores and it doesn't sound like curbside is allowed.

I think maybe a big portion is how liquor laws are made but your stand alone liquor aspect is def. true.

 

[tasha99]

It was nothing more than click-bait, honestly. The states that are "shutting down alcohol sales" are states that still have stand-alone liquor stores. They aren't targeting alcohol, they're simply closing non-essential retail... and unlike here in Michigan, where buy our booze in the same places we buy our groceries, their state liquor laws are set up in a way that renders alcohol outlets non-essential. The closest we're likely to come here is a shut down of microbreweries, distilleries and wineries that aren't already covered by the restaurant closure order (though I think they'd have been covered in the order that shut down theatres and libraries and such), because they're gathering places even if they don't serve food.

Wow. Shutting down alcohol sales completely seems like a foolish move to me. Alcoholics out there do not need to be flooding the ER with withdrawal symptoms right now. The system can't handle them, but their withdrawal could be deadly. Not smart.

 

[NYDisneyKid]

No one is excluded. Even if you made 1 trillion dollars in 2018 as an individual you will get $600 or $1200 as a couple.

Does that include retired people who don't file tax returns?

 

[Colleen27]

Wow. Shutting down alcohol sales completely seems like a foolish move to me. Alcoholics out there do not need to be flooding the ER with withdrawal symptoms right now. The system can't handle them, but their withdrawal could be deadly. Not smart.

I don't think they are, though. Even in those states that still have dedicated package liquor store, I believe most allow beer & wine sales at groceries and other general stores.

As far as withdrawal goes, I think the bigger immediate worry is that we're still a nation in the midst of an opioid crisis. When the clinics and doctors who provide suboxone and methadone to addicts in recovery close, and with AA/NA and counseling services all suspended, many who are fighting the battle against addiction will relapse. And when lockdown protocols inhibit free movement on the streets, the black market is likely to be impacted as well. Talk about potential for deadly withdrawals - it doesn't matter if the person is an actively using addict who can't get his oxy or heroin or a recovering addict on a step-down medication to manage the physical craving. There are likely to be a whole lot of opiate users going cold-turkey at a time when our medical system will be least able to help them.

 

[fsjking]

Kentucky is not shutting down stand alone liquor stores, and has even relaxed rules to allow businesses that have on premises licenses to sell package drinks. Of course, the beer/liquor industry has a lot of presence and power in KY.

 

[kymom99]

Kentucky is not shutting down stand alone liquor stores, and has even relaxed rules to allow businesses that have on premises licenses to sell package drinks. Of course, the beer/liquor industry has a lot of presence and power in KY.

Gotta sell that bourbon!

 

[mjkacmom]

I don't think they are, though. Even in those states that still have dedicated package liquor store, I believe most allow beer & wine sales at groceries and other general stores.

As far as withdrawal goes, I think the bigger immediate worry is that we're still a nation in the midst of an opioid crisis. When the clinics and doctors who provide suboxone and methadone to addicts in recovery close, and with AA/NA and counseling services all suspended, many who are fighting the battle against addiction will relapse. And when lockdown protocols inhibit free movement on the streets, the black market is likely to be impacted as well. Talk about potential for deadly withdrawals - it doesn't matter if the person is an actively using addict who can't get his oxy or heroin or a recovering addict on a step-down medication to manage the physical craving. There are likely to be a whole lot of opiate users going cold-turkey at a time when our medical system will be least able to help them.

My state does not allow beer and wine to be sold in grocery stores. I’m hoping the worst case scenario would be pick up and delivery. It’s a shelf stable product and we have two in town that have been in business forever. Sometimes I’ll drive the six minutes to cheaper chains, but not now.

 

[Traveling on cc points]

It was nothing more than click-bait, honestly. The states that are "shutting down alcohol sales" are states that still have stand-alone liquor stores. They aren't targeting alcohol, they're simply closing non-essential retail... and unlike here in Michigan, where buy our booze in the same places we buy our groceries, their state liquor laws are set up in a way that renders alcohol outlets non-essential. The closest we're likely to come here is a shut down of microbreweries, distilleries and wineries that aren't already covered by the restaurant closure order (though I think they'd have been covered in the order that shut down theatres and libraries and such), because they're gathering places even if they don't serve food.

I live in Connecticut and our liquor laws are weird.

grocery stores are only allowed to sell beer and wine
Gas stations cannot carry any alcohol.
we have tons and tons of stand alone liquor stores that have not been closed yet.

that being said, most of us don’t buy our liquor in state due to the fact that CT has a socialist attitude by having a state minimum price on liquor.

 

[BLAZEY]

I’ve been on a bit of a news sabbatical - could you kindly point me towards some official information on this? We’re finally scheduled to be returned home from Mexico on Saturday. We’ll both be in isolation for 14 days. I will be paid in full during that time and 100% positive to be returning to my role (remote or in-office). DH’s company has informed him his time will be unpaid unless their insurance carrier applies short-term disability or EI pays. Also not quite as confident in his job security, so I’m very interested in any provisions the government has announced.

TIA

Here is the links to the official Government of Canada website where you can find information. I hope this helps. be safe ! https://www.canada.ca/en/department...lan-support-for-canadians-and-businesses.html and https://www.canada.ca/en/department-finance/economic-response-plan.html#individual

 

[georgina]

I'm taking a wild guess, but I don't think you'd qualify.

I'm not the poster you quoted, but I feel the same. We will definitely get some money and I plan to donate it to my local food bank and community outreach center.

Even after the treasury secretary said a few days ago that millionaires wouldn't get it, looks like everyone will! (Not saying we're millionaires, we are retired old people)