WTH Plus size clothes for kids!?! vent

[chobie]

I haven't read the entire thread and probably shouldn't jump in now, but I just wanted to say I don't think the OP was bashing anyone's parenting skills. I think she thought more of "it's terrible that so many people, especially kids, are overweight that it is necessary to have a plus size line of clothing." Not "Plus size kids shouldn't wear anything but old lady clothing," more of a concern that so many people are overweight in today's society.

Plus size clothes have been around for at least 30 years and many people have kids who have normal BMI's or are in a healthy weight range who wear plus size clothes because of thier particular body type.

 

[Cindyluwho]

This thread has become incredibly hateful! For a minute let's just pretend that this was my original post:

I was driving to the store today and saw a woman with two children driving a car and her children didn't have seatbelts on! I'm mortified that a parent would put the lives of her children in such peril. In fact, I've seen the same thing several times lately and I think it's becoming a trend in my area. Don't parents think enough about their children to keep them safe?

And the reactions from the this board would be?

"How dare you judge parents who don't make their children wear seatbelts. You must think you're better than them because you make your perfect child buckle up in the car."
or
"How do you know the seatbelts in the cars aren't broken? How dare you be so judgemental"
or
"You should just worry about your own perfect child and leave our children alone you judgemental %^$&*"
or
"I can't believe you would be so rude as to complain about other people's seatbelt use. At least we give our charity money to US seatbelt manufacturers and not to seatbelt manufacturers outside of the country"
or
"How do you know they're not just letting them ride that way this one time. Maybe they ride with their seatbelts buckled the rest of the time"

hmmmmm

 

[ducklite]

I think you're comparing apples to oranges.

You made a very judgemental post, and now you can live with the results.

Anne

 

[Cindyluwho]

I think you're comparing apples to oranges.

You made a very judgemental post, and now you can live with the results.

Anne

Did you just threaten me? What in God's name is wrong with you. I stated my opinion, maybe harshly, but it's my opinion. And now you're threatening me? What exactly are you going to do that I have to "live with"? Get a grip.

 

[kristen821]

This thread has become incredibly hateful! For a minute let's just pretend that this was my original post:

I was driving to the store today and saw a woman with two children driving a car and her children didn't have seatbelts on! I'm mortified that a parent would put the lives of her children in such peril. In fact, I've seen the same thing several times lately and I think it's becoming a trend in my area. Don't parents think enough about their children to keep them safe?

And the reactions from the this board would be?

"How dare you judge parents who don't make their children wear seatbelts. You must think you're better than them because you make your perfect child buckle up in the car."
or
"How do you know the seatbelts in the cars aren't broken? How dare you be so judgemental"
or
"You should just worry about your own perfect child and leave our children alone you judgemental %^$&*"
or
"I can't believe you would be so rude as to complain about other people's seatbelt use. At least we give our charity money to US seatbelt manufacturers and not to seatbelt manufacturers outside of the country"
or
"How do you know they're not just letting them ride that way this one time. Maybe they ride with their seatbelts buckled the rest of the time"

hmmmmm

Well this isn't your original post. I bet you wouldn't be flamed if it were because you would be stating facts that you knew about the kids and parents you were judging. They weren't put in a seatbelt that is wrong and you can blame a parent for that. But, you can't alway blame a parent for thier children being overweight.

 

[Disneynutbsv]

You are absolutey right about me being really in touch about healthy eating and maintaining a healthy weight, because I SAW the disastrous results of starvation, anorexia and bulimia. I had a roommate have a heart attack at 19 in NYC because of deliberately starving herself on apples and dry popcorn and liters and liters of water. It's awful, Summerrluvv, and I hope you never see it.QUOTE]

I lived this life with anorexia My friend Becky almost died from it and years later, I still see her and she's still struggling. Its sad today to see the way we look up to certain people and want to be just like them. After suffering for years with this and ending up in the hospital for awhile and lots of therapy, I'm accepting. I'm accepting as I am, I don't need to look up to others and I'm trying to teach my daughter that just because she doesn't look like Lindsay Lohan or Hilary Duff (who are also trying to keep the weight off, so disappointing) that its ok just to be herself. And she wears a 12 1/2. Her doctor says her weight is fine, her height is fine and she's right on the path wear she should be. She eats fine, fruits & veggies, she dances, skis, gets lots of exercise. Same body type that I had when I was her age. And yes, she does have the occasional "junk" food.

You can't judge a book by its cover...and it is hard to watch the peer pressure that our kids face today. Eating right and exercise is great and healthy for our kids, but because a child wears a plus size does not make her/him overweight or obese.

 

[ducklite]

Did you just threaten me? What in God's name is wrong with you. I stated my opinion, maybe harshly, but it's my opinion. And now you're threatening me? What exactly are you going to do that I have to "live with"? Get a grip.

Wow. You need some serious help.

Anne

 

[kristen821]

I don't think that was a threat. You are trying to change the subject sorry just my opinion

 

[chobie]

Well this isn't your original post. I bet you wouldn't be flamed if it were because you would be stating facts that you knew about the kids and parents you were judging. They weren't put in a seatbelt that is wrong and you can blame a parent for that. But, you can't alway blame a parent for thier children being overweight.

Also not having your kids in a seatbelt is illegal whereas buying plus size clothes is not illegal.

 

[chobie]

Did you just threaten me? What in God's name is wrong with you. I stated my opinion, maybe harshly, but it's my opinion. And now you're threatening me? What exactly are you going to do that I have to "live with"? Get a grip.

Get over your self.

She was not threatening you, she was merely pointing out why you might be perceiving some anger from your original post.

 

[The Dark Dancer]

I don't think that was a threat. You are trying to change the subject sorry just my opinion

I don't think it was a threat either.

 

[FSUGrad97]

Did you just threaten me? What in God's name is wrong with you. I stated my opinion, maybe harshly, but it's my opinion. And now you're threatening me? What exactly are you going to do that I have to "live with"? Get a grip.

No one is threatening you at all. You are reaching to say the least.

I think you are overreacting because you felt that others would support your POV. When that didn't happen, you got overly defensive.

 

[allie&mattsmom]

Did you just threaten me? What in God's name is wrong with you. I stated my opinion, maybe harshly, but it's my opinion. And now you're threatening me? What exactly are you going to do that I have to "live with"? Get a grip.

ummm....I believe she was responding to you stating that this thread has turned hateful, meaning you must "live with" the responses your are getting. I see no threat whatsoever.

 

[Christine]

If your'e so secure about your parenting choices then why are you bothered that the majority of people did see at as bashing other parents for not making the same choices as the OP? Why are you even on a thread like this if you don't care about other people's choices?

I'm not bothered that other people saw it as bashing. Just trying to understand it, that is all. Admittedly, I am not a person who gets my feelings hurt easily--hardly ever. I know other people are different.

I'm on this thread because I also found it interesting that the plus-size children's clothing market is in a boom. As far as I know, these threads are for people of all opinions. If someone feels that the OP was insulting to them, then they were, indeed, insulted. I was trying to understand their perspective.

 

[lucyanna girl]

Cindyluwho, It's a lot too late to change what you wrote originally.
I am The Dark Dancer's mother. She answered your post earlier in this thread and I am so proud of the way she answered. For your information, she is not a large person, she is just larger than some of her friends. Sarah is also the most beautiful, sweetest, friendliest and the favorite of her group - they will tell you this themselves and have on numerous occasions. She would never hurt anyone's feelings.
Sarah and I both read your OP. You made a lot of people feel anger and hurt with your words. Only you know your intentions. I can't read minds and would not want to. As the mother of a sensitive 14 year old I can read her face and it was not hard to after she read what you wrote. To come back at this point and try and change your words is much too little, too late.

 

[chobie]

I'm not bothered that other people saw it as bashing. Just trying to understand it, that is all. Admittedly, I am not a person who gets my feelings hurt easily--hardly ever. I know other people are different.

I'm on this thread because I also found it interesting that the plus-size children's clothing market is in a boom. As far as I know, these threads are for people of all opinions. If someone feels that the OP was insulting to them, then they were, indeed, insulted. I was trying to understand their perspective.

Like its been said before, plus sizes clothing for children is not new. And the OP did try to equate plus size clothing with bad parenting. She was entitled to do that, just as others were entitled to to equate her comments with being rude and judgmental.

 

[Cindyluwho]

When that didn't happen, you got overly defensive.

Overly defensive? The majority of posters on this thread have been majorly defensive. I have just vented that it's a shame that there's a need for a huge plus size department in a store and that parents who overfeed (or feed poorly) their children should wake up and realize the harm it can do. I didn't even ask if anyone agreed with me, I just stated my opinion.
I've made it clear over and over again that I'm not talking about chubby kids, overweight kids, kids who eat well and exercise and happen to be plus sizes. I'm talking about an American epidemic that, after reading this post, I have a pretty clear idea why it's taking place. The majority of folks do not want to broach this subject and do not want it discussed.

 

[UrsulasMyHero]

Did you just threaten me? What in God's name is wrong with you. I stated my opinion, maybe harshly, but it's my opinion. And now you're threatening me? What exactly are you going to do that I have to "live with"? Get a grip.

*GUFFAW* No dear, she didn't threaten you. A threat would have a course of action. She mearly stated that you would have to live with the consequences of your actions. *shrug*

You knew people would flame you. You chose that when you wrote the original text.

As an FYI: I was at Target last night and chose to look for this ever encroaching Plus kids department. I found 4 racks out of 30. That's not a lot. In the Ms. Department there was a section of 20 feet or so that encompassed Maternity and plus sized. YAY... the rest was Misses and Juniors. The clothing was trendy and nicely done. But it wasn't over the top. There weren't any lo-rise jeans either, so no muffin tops to be seen.

Now I did notice that they were blending their lingerie together. For every SML nightie I saw a XL and an XXL. Nice choices there too. I commend them.

Let me state this unequivically, There is NOTHING wrong with a person, woman or child wanting to look their best, wether they are thin or fat. Being fat is NOT a crime. Stop acting like it is. As the venerable (and now passed on) Dear Abby would have said MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.

 

[lindalinda]

i wonder whos watching the kids ? LOL right now. seriously.

 

[ducklite]

Overly defensive? The majority of posters on this thread have been majorly defensive. I have just vented that it's a shame that there's a need for a huge plus size department in a store and that parents who overfeed (or feed poorly) their children should wake up and realize the harm it can do. I didn't even ask if anyone agreed with me, I just stated my opinion.
I've made it clear over and over again that I'm not talking about chubby kids, overweight kids, kids who eat well and exercise and happen to be plus sizes. I'm talking about an American epidemic that, after reading this post, I have a pretty clear idea why it's taking place. The majority of folks do not want to broach this subject and do not want it discussed.

I think most of us would have no problem discussing the current issue with obesity facing America. No one is debying that it is a problem. What most of have a problem with is the judgemental attitude that you and some others have put forth on the subject.

I would love to see more Federal dollars allocated towards teaching nutrition in school. I would love to discuss ways to help low income families more readily afford wholesome foods. But I'm sure as heck not willing to have a discussion with people who are so judgemental about "fat" people that they can't see past the end of the their nose because it's so far up in the air.

Anne