WTH Plus size clothes for kids!?! vent

[chobie]

Overly defensive? The majority of posters on this thread have been majorly defensive. I have just vented that it's a shame that there's a need for a huge plus size department in a store and that parents who overfeed (or feed poorly) their children should wake up and realize the harm it can do. I didn't even ask if anyone agreed with me, I just stated my opinion.
I've made it clear over and over again that I'm not talking about chubby kids, overweight kids, kids who eat well and exercise and happen to be plus sizes. I'm talking about an American epidemic that, after reading this post, I have a pretty clear idea why it's taking place. The majority of folks do not want to broach this subject and do not want it discussed.

Yes, if everyone could just be perfect like you this world would be a much better place.

 

[Cindyluwho]

Why, oh why is it perfectly OK on this board to vent about bad parents who smoke around their kids, bad parents who let their kids run amock on airplanes, bad parents who have whiny kids, etc but it's not OK to vent about parents who choose to feed unhealthy food to their kids? Are those other subjects less judgemental? 'Cause I've seen those other threads on this board plenty of times in the last few years and the majority of replies are "amen to that brother!" And for the record, I never said that chubby, overweight, healthy kids who eat well or have medical problems and happen to wear a plus sizes are the devil's spawn.

 

[ducklite]

i wonder whos watching the kids ? LOL right now. seriously.

Mines sitting right next to me--and HORRORS--he's drinking a soda LOL!

Anne

 

[chobie]

I think most of us would have no problem discussing the current issue with obesity facing America. No one is debying that it is a problem. What most of have a problem with is the judgemental attitude that you and some others have put forth on the subject.

I would love to see more Federal dollars allocated towards teaching nutrition in school. I would love to discuss ways to help low income families more readily afford wholesome foods. But I'm sure as heck not willing to have a discussion with people who are so judgemental about "fat" people that they can't see past the end of the their nose because it's so far up in the air.

Anne

Exactly, well said.

 

[The Dark Dancer]

Mines sitting right next to me--and HORRORS--he's drinking a soda LOL!

Anne

 

[DarkSideMoon]

You know, OP, by the title of your thread you are making it sound like overweight children don't deserve good clothes. Just because your daughter can't find the right size does not mean overweight kids can't. Oh, and by the way, the childhood obesity epidemic is not as bad as they say. You should be more worried about cholesterol and the nutrients in what you eat, rather than weight.

 

[Disneyrsh]

I would love to see more Federal dollars allocated towards teaching nutrition in school. Anne

Gee, isn't that a parent's job, to teach your kids how to eat right?

Just don't ask me to use my federal tax dollars on your gastric bypass. Oops, too late. Or to teach my kid how to eat. Or how to think. Because from what I've seeon on this thread, it ain't workin'!

In the spirit of Christmas, let's all just agree to disagree, and let it go at that, because there's no common ground here at all because everyone's "feelings" are getting in the way. So let's just let the disagreeable feelings go...

 

[ducklite]

Gee, isn't that a parent's job, to teach your kids how to eat right?

Just don't ask me to use my federal tax dollars on your gastric bypass. Oops, too late. Or to teach my kid how to eat. Or how to think. Because from what I've seeon on this thread, it ain't workin'!

In the spirit of Christmas, let's all just agree to disagree, and let it go at that, because there's no common ground here at all because everyone's "feelings" are getting in the way. So let's just let the disagreeable feelings go...

First off, my 5'8" size 6 a** doesn't need a gastric bypass. So get your facts straight.

It's also obvious that this is a cylce which needs to end. It's obvious that not all parents are equipped to teach their children nutrition. If they don't know it themselves, then how do you expect them to teach it? By not teaching it in school you are damning an entire generation, and the next and the next and the next.

If we spend a few dollars per person teaching nutrition, we can save thousands on obesity related health care down the road. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

Anne

 

[FSUGrad97]

Why, oh why is it perfectly OK on this board to vent about bad parents who smoke around their kids, bad parents who let their kids run amock on airplanes, bad parents who have whiny kids, etc but it's not OK to vent about parents who choose to feed unhealthy food to their kids? Are those other subjects less judgemental? 'Cause I've seen those other threads on this board plenty of times in the last few years and the majority of replies are "amen to that brother!" And for the record, I never said that chubby, overweight, healthy kids who eat well or have medical problems and happen to wear a plus sizes are the devil's spawn.

As other posters have stated before, but you are STILL NOT GETTING is that your original UNEDITTED post was incredibly rude and judgemental. Now that you are realizing that a lot of people are disagreeing with your opinion, you are trying to spin your way out of it.

 

[gr8ful4Him]

OK, I just found this thread. I didn't read through it all, but it seems to have gotten quite heated! I'm just going to add my 2 cents...for what it's worth
My dh has been overweight pretty much forever. He grew up in a household where both parents were overweight. Some people would say...genetics is why he was fat...BUT, his brother is NOT overweight, and although maybe a little chubby as a kid, has never been. now, as far as I know, they have the same genetic structure (I'm no scientist though....). The main difference was that the brother was and is still way more active. He was able to eat what was put in front of him without gaining the weight from it all.
We've been losing weight since July and I know it's not that easy to lose and keep off the weight. What has made it easier though is that my dh and I are doing it together. Until families decide together that they want to live healthier lifestyles, it can be nearly impossible. Oh, and they have to be lifestyle changes, not just "diets" per se. I only wish I had been raised eating healthier, unfortunately we had the single parent household and sometimes we had to "fend for ourselves"...and trust me, pasta is one of the easiest things to make but one of the worst as far as gaining weight.
Remember we all have different life experiences, both good and bad. Those experiences make us who we are and will continue to be until we decide to change something. When somebody tries to force their opinion on somebody else (ie. you know you should quit smoking, lose weight, exercise, stop drinking, or any of the various other things we could come up with here) most of the time it falls on deaf ears...when I was a smoker, I knew I should quit smoking, and no matter how many times somebody told me that, it wasn't until I decided I wanted to quit that I actually did (and succeeded with God's help!)

 

[chobie]

Gee, isn't that a parent's job, to teach your kids how to eat right?

Just don't ask me to use my federal tax dollars on your gastric bypass. Oops, too late. Or to teach my kid how to eat. Or how to think. Because from what I've seeon on this thread, it ain't workin'!

In the spirit of Christmas, let's all just agree to disagree, and let it go at that, because there's no common ground here at all because everyone's "feelings" are getting in the way. So let's just let the disagreeable feelings go...

Here comes the perfect parent again to tell us all how to do it.

 

[Disneyrsh]

First off, my 5'8" size 6 a** doesn't need a gastric bypass. So get your facts straight.

It's also obvious that this is a cylce which needs to end. It's obvious that not all parents are equipped to teach their children nutrition. If they don't know it themselves, then how do you expect them to teach it? By not teaching it in school you are damning an entire generation, and the next and the next and the next.

If we spend a few dollars per person teaching nutrition, we can save thousands on obesity related health care sown the road. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

Anne

Ok, here's my original post:

Just don't ask me to use my federal tax dollars on your gastric bypass. Oops, too late. Or to teach my kid how to eat. Or how to think. Because from what I've seen on this thread, it ain't workin'!

The problem with many of these posts is that people take a generalization like, my federal tax dollars are being spent on your gastic bypass, and you think, hey, she's talking to me, even though I didn't have a gastric bypass. I'm mad.

Well, no, I wasn't talking to you because you didn't have one, there's no possible way I could know any vital statistics about you, and my post merely lamented that I'm paying taxes to fund this preventable operation.

But YOU, and by you, I mean you, Ducklite, think I'm making a statment specifically towards you and you fire off a response without thinking about it.

This whole thread is all about people getting angry at general statements, like "if a kid is fat it is bad" and thinking, hey, they're talking about MY kid, and I"m MAD.

Does anybody think it's good to have a fat kid?

Does anybody think that it's good for kids to eat junk food?

Really, anyone?

 

[ducklite]

Actually eating pasta won't make you fat as long as you do enought excercise to burn it off. That's why most athelete's eat a ton of it.

Anne

 

[ChrisnSteph]

No offense, but I find it interesting that the only jeans you could buy for your dd were $68 ones at Limited Too. If she's 12, tall and skinny, why not shop the juniors section? Being 5 feet and petite myself, I have a difficult time finding clothes in the jr's or misses section that are are short enough for me. Most everything, particularly jeans are very long and made for very thin people, and they cost a lot less than $68. While I don't believe parents should allow their children to become grossly overweight, some people are predispositioned to be big boned or husky, and will never be graced with the great genes your dd obviously has. I'm glad that there are choices in fashionable and trendy clothing for that group, especially since they will be growing up in a world of people who seem to think that everyone should naturally be a size 2.

 

[Disneyrsh]

Here comes the perfect parent again to tell us all how to do it.

Wow, honey, I'm pretty sure I wasn't saying how to be a perfect parent. I think that's been your drum to beat. I think, actually, that I haven't mentioned anything about my kids' eating habits or weight throughout this entire thread.

I feel sorry for you, really, because nobody wants overweight kids to grow up and become obese adults with serious health problems, and the best you can do is chime in with a snotty little rejoinder.

 

[gr8ful4Him]

Actually eating pasta won't make you fat as long as you do enought excercise to burn it off. That's why most athelete's eat a ton of it.

Anne

Yup, I agree...and as I sit here at my computer exercising my fingers, I sure am glad I didn't have pasta for dinner!
When I was a kid preparing pasta in the evenings, I would then sit and do my homework and most likely watch TV until my mom came home...

 

[Disneyrsh]

While I don't believe parents should allow their children to become grossly overweight, some people are predispositioned to be big boned or husky, and will never be graced with the great genes your dd obviously has. .

Ah, see, the 'you're so lucky to have great genes' excuse. I knew it would come up again.

And my friend the medical examiner says that nobody's bones are so big that it makes them look fat unless they're a Neanderthal. She thinks that excuse is hilarious.

Fine, so much for Christmas spirit. I suck at letting go, amongst other traits I'm not particularly proud of...

 

[ducklite]

Does anybody think it's good to have a fat kid?

Does anybody think that it's good for kids to eat junk food?

Really, anyone?

Of course not. But how do you expect children to learn good eating habits if the parents aren't equipped to teach them? Of course we wouldn't want to "waste" your precious dollars. Gastric bypasses paid for from taxes are the least of your worries. The hypertension and diabetes are far more expensive in the long run.

Anne

 

[ducklite]

Yup, I agree...and as I sit here at my computer exercising my fingers, I sure am glad I didn't have pasta for dinner!

I hate to admit it, but I ate nachos and salsa. The salsa is actually quite good for you, but the nacho's sure aren't--especially when you're trying to control hypertension. Oops!

Anne

 

[chobie]

Wow, honey, I'm pretty sure I wasn't saying how to be a perfect parent. I think that's been your drum to beat. I think, actually, that I haven't mentioned anything about my kids' eating habits or weight throughout this entire thread.

I feel sorry for you, really, because nobody wants overweight kids to grow up and become obese adults with serious health problems, and the best you can do is chime in with a snotty little rejoinder.

Once again assuming things aren't you? No my kids are not overweight, but just because neither them or myself have a weight problem does not mean I'm going to join in a fat-bashing session. And I was rerferring to some other posts on other threads where you told people how to parent their kids based on what you do.

Personally I feel sorry for someone who assumes that just because someone isn't hateful towards people with overweight children that means they must have overweight children.