Would you let your child wait for you outside of ride???

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That Dad did put your wife in a horrible position. Did he expect your wife to stay with her until he got back and be responsible for her? :scared1:

Oh and I'm sure wife is a nice person. :thumbsup2

Something similar happened to us at Expedition Everest. A youngish boy about 8 or 9 was standing crying by himself. My girls and I approached him and found out he was waiting for his mom who was on the ride. I told a CM and said he could wait with us until his mom came out of the gift shop. Eventually she came out and began to berate him for being upset, and walked away with him without even a second glance at us. My girls were couldn't believe it. Sad.:(
 
Also, I give my kids a code word. This is something my parents did for me when I was a child. If someone, ANYONE, including grandparents, etc come to take my child I give them our code word. If the person does not have the correct code word my kids are not to go with them, no matter who it is, or what they say. Without the code word my kids know mom and dad did not authorize the transaction. Family knows about it so they know to automatically tell them what the code word is, "Chester" doesn't know about it so they don't know to give it, and when asked, won't know what it is.


We do the code word with our kids too.
 
Something similar happened to us at Expedition Everest. A youngish boy about 8 or 9 was standing crying by himself. My girls and I approached him and found out he was waiting for his mom who was on the ride. I told a CM and said he could wait with us until his mom came out of the gift shop. Eventually she came out and began to berate him for being upset, and walked away with him without even a second glance at us. My girls were couldn't believe it. Sad.:(

A CM on Reddit told me about being approached by a girl of about 11, who explained that she'd gotten lost. Standard procedure is to walk with the kid around the perimeter of the area, looking for the "lost parent". Sure enough, mum was found in short order... only to start screaming at the girl, as she drags her off angrily!

Apparently some parents find it SO embarrassing when their kids ask for help in an appropriate and sensible way, that they'll do everything in their power to ensure the kids never do it again. :crazy2:
 

we do rider swap with my lil bro who is scared of everything he is 9 that was a lot easier then you dont have to worry
 
we do rider swap with my lil bro who is scared of everything he is 9 that was a lot easier then you dont have to worry

Rider swap is generally just for riders who are too short to ride. Not for those tall enough who choose not to ride.
 
Rider swap is generally just for riders who are too short to ride. Not for those tall enough who choose not to ride.

Thats not the way I have read it here. Its for anyone who doesn't want to ride and can't be left alone such as an elderly parent.
 
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Don't waste time with them sitting idle, send them for more fastpasses


I think that's probably the best solution. OP I think you guys have been to WDW before, so he should be somewhat familiar with the park. Give him a task or two! FPs, buy popcorn, etc. That way he's in places you both know he'll be, and on the move as well.



That is what I was thinking too! If you feel he is mature enough to handle being alone for the time it takes your to ride HM, give him a bit of money and have him play in the shooting arcade. That should keep him occupied for the 30 minutes or so it will take you to ride. There is seating in that area too, so if he gets bored tell him he is to park it and not move from that area.

I like that idea, too, and it's one my son would LOVE. We are still in the *getting used to single rider lines" stage with him, not quite the "you sit on a bench and wait while I ride something" stage, but once that time comes, the shooting arcade is a really good idea.


You go to WDW for your kids.

You might; I don't. We go to WDW and DLR and Universal for the family. All of us.


After seeing how easy it was for men to snatch 3 innocent girls from a Cleveland street and hide them for a whole decade... no way would I leave my 10 year old alone in a huge theme park.

But that's just me.

Taken, in a car, off a street. Not walked out of a theme park with people all around and employees and CAMERAS everywhere. The difference is so enormous I cannot even make the leap.


But all kids are different. The parent would need to determine the maturity level of their child and how likely they are to do what they have been told.

Absolutely. My kid at 10? Probably. Another specific child I know? Absolutely not. There's no chance he would survive, he would probably be catatonic by the time his parents came back out. But they wouldn't even think about it for him.



That's definitely not a fun experience, but the lesson I would have taken from this isn't that my 9 and 11yo should never be alone again, it's that they didn't know what to do when they got scared. And I need to teach them better!
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Your kids should always know exactly what to do if your group gets separated on vacation. And they should know that "running back and forth, scared and frantic" isn't ever the best choice.

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Adults should know that, too.

Bad things happen...Bad things have always happened, we just know about them more now - with the information age.

Absolutely. My gosh just reading about Roman History would tell us that there's nothing new except for the instant communication possible now.

When Ms Duggard was found and her captors were arrested, more came out about the man involved. Turned out that his trolling grounds weren't THAT far from where I grew up. One of the women that went to my high school but graduated 5-10 years earlier is convinced that he once tried to convince her to get into his van (she recognized the van when it was shown on TV, and remembered where she was walking at the time). The KEY is *not getting in that van*.

We had a lot of freedom growing up where I grew up, but my mom always taught us how to avoid trouble as much as was humanly possible.

DS has been taught that if he is separated from us at Disney he goes to the nearest *cash register* and the Cast Member behind it. Not just someone wearing a nametag, since as we all know they make, or used to make, ones for guests to buy that looked real. The cash register part is important. He knows that if someone is making him uncomfortable, he is to get away. Doesn't matter if he hurts someone's feelings or appears to be rude, just get away. He's on an elevator and someone gets on that makes him feel weird, get off the elevator. He's about to get onto an elevator and someone's in there that he doesn't want to be in there with? Don't get in. etc. (obviously we have read the Gift of Fear, and all of this is repeated over and over in his Aikido classes) Once we start separating in day to day life more (we homeschool so we don't have the walks to school, etc, to contend with) there will be codewords just like my mom did with us in the 70s and 80s.

Disney has been a wonderful place to have little bits of watched-over freedom, like when he went into the line for Gadget's Go-Coaster at Disneyland, thinking he was allll alone, when really we could watch him for almost the entire ride. Because it isn't just his safety that's important, but how he behaves when he thinks we're not watching. And we were really proud of how he did in that line.


My only concern would be what if the ride breaks down while your child is waiting for you? You could be stuck in there an extra 10-20 minutes and your child would be sitting outside wondering what happened to you.

I hope that if one is thinking of leaving a child outside to wait, the child knows of the idea of ride stops. My son had experienced two of them by the time he was 4. But a cellphone with a wait-time app might be a good idea, too. Or have him sit in view of the wait time sign for the ride, so he can see if something funky happens with the time.
 
In this case, I'd tell my husband to come to the park with us and hang out with Junior.

Generally speaking, I'd be fine with leaving my 10 year old alone.
I have an 11 year old son and I am absolutely sure I'd be fine sending him to the bathroom or over to a snack cart or something on his own.
He walks home from school, rides around the neighborhood on his bike, hangs out at the Little League fields with his friends, I am sure he can manage to sit on a bench surrounded by a ton of people and not wander away.

I asked him if he would be okay with that and he said yes, and then I asked what would happen if someone tried to take him and he said I think I am old enough to yell, HEY! I'm being abducted!
My kids know the rules-don't go anywhere with anyone for any reason.
 
OP here-Thanks for all the opinions. To be honest, I am very cautious and when my daughter (same age) goes down to her friends house down the block I have her call me when she gets there or I go in the street and watch her walk down. I am more cautious about an abduction in our neighborhood when one of my children would be alone. However, in disney world with alot of people around, I just find it hard to believe someone could kidnap my 100 pound, almost 5 feet tall son. As I said before, he is a rule follower and I told him "don't get off the bench", he wouldn't. He knows what a "stranger" is and would never leave with one. I also believe (and I hope I am right) that there are hidden cameras around WDW and that an abductor wouldn't be so stupid to try to take a child in a busy amusement park. We are also going the beginning of September and in the past the waits have been 5 to 10 minutes. Lastly, as someone mentioned, I would NEVER leave him if he was uncomfortable about it. (If I got him a nice big ice cream done while sitting, he would most likely be OK with it. :thumbsup2) Thanks for the thoughts.
 
Wow, i can't believe everyone is so terrified that something is going to happen at WDW of all places. It's an enclosed area with thousands of people and CMs and cameras. There's only one exit out, so I really doubt a 10 year old would go all the way from HM to the front of the park and leave with someone they didn't know. I'm sure there are exceptions, but I really doubt it in most cases. I would go to DisneyQuest by myself at 10-11 and this was before everyone had phones. I had a phone card that I would call my mom every couple of hours to tell her I was okay, but she trusted me not to leave with someone. It would be a bit different if this was the side of the road or a big park, which is where all these other kids were abducted, but WDW is a bit different.

I wouldn't leave a kid on a bench, because that's boring and yea, they might wander off. Maybe let them ride the boat around or give them some money to go the shooting place in FrontierLand or put them in line to meet a character.
 
If you think he will be okay then I would say go for it. You know your kid.

On our December trip DD was 9 and she rode SM twice by herself. DH wanted to sleep in a little and the kids and I wanted to hit MK again. DS is too little to ride so DD rode alone.

In March I took DD for her 10th birthday and we brought my DN along who was also 10 at the time. She didn't want to ride some of the thrill rides and would wait with us and then take the chicken exit and hang out in the gift shop. It was crowded with longer wait times so I didn't want her to have to wait so long alone. Not for safety reasons but because she would have been bored and would rather wait in line with us. I also let the girls go from the pool to the room to get their ipods or kindle or whatever they wanted and had forgotten. We seperated in gift shops several times as well when they wanted to look at different things.

Right now, its hard to imagine ever geing able to leave DS alone anywhere:faint: But I know that he too will grow and mature and need to learn independance. I think Disney is a great place to try things out when the time is right. When DD was younger I'm sure if I had been asked the same question I might have said no like many with younger ones on here have said. Its amazing though how much progress they make toward maturity between 6 and 9 or 10 year olds. You often don't realize it until you go through that change with your own child.
 
Last year I went to Florida with just my two daughters, DD10 wanted to ride Stitch and DD7 wanted to ride the peoplemover (TTA). I walked DD10 to Stitch and watched her go into the ride while DD7 and I rode TTA repeatedly. DD10 met us at the exit to TTA. I was nervous but when we came down the exit and I saw her look of confidence and pride for waiting for us I knew I had made the right decision.

I am one of those mothers that worries about my girls and I am lucky enough to have a husband that reminds me we can't shelter them forever.
 
When my oldest was 7 I started letting her ride things alone that my youngest was too scared to go on. I would put her in line, then wait at the exit. I don't know if I would leave her alone while I rode something. Hmmmm. . . something to think about. I let her walk over to another aisle in a store, or go out of the movies to the restroom. Not sure I would leave her alone at disney though.
 
I saw the look on a panicked today on a Mom's face that could not find her child today. I don't know how old the child was and I assume they found her but I would never want to go through the emotions that Mom was going through so I would say no.

All it takes is one thing and a life can be changed for ever. I know people that were victims of sexual abuse and it is very life altering. For that reason we do let our grandkids out of our sight.
 
I saw the look on a panicked today on a Mom's face that could not find her child today. I don't know how old the child was and I assume they found her but I would never want to go through the emotions that Mom was going through so I would say no.

You have no idea how old the child was, so you think letting a child of any age out of your sight is a mistake? At some point you have to start allowing children freedom, so that they learn how to handle different situations. You cannot watch them like a hawk until they are 18 and then send them out on their own and expect them to deal with whatever comes their way. It won't work!

Little freedoms a bit at a time are how kids learn to handle themselves. And I can't think of a better place to allow kids little freedoms than at WDW, where cameras are on us all of the time and security is around us everywhere.
 
maxiesmom said:
You have no idea how old the child was, so you think letting a child of any age out of your sight is a mistake? At some point you have to start allowing children freedom, so that they learn how to handle different situations. You cannot watch them like a hawk until they are 18 and then send them out on their own and expect them to deal with whatever comes their way. It won't work!

Little freedoms a bit at a time are how kids learn to handle themselves. And I can't think of a better place to allow kids little freedoms than at WDW, where cameras are on us all of the time and security is around us everywhere.

Cameras are also on us all the time at grocery stores, gas stations, libraries, schools, Marathons!! Doesn't mean it's safe.
 
I posted yesterday that I just could not enjoy the ride while my child waited for me. Thoughout the day I would ask folks their opinion and without exception, everyone immediately replied that they would never consider it. We like to think that this abuduction or dangerous acts would never happen in WDW, but I just could not take that chance. Yes, I knew my child, but I also know the world in general.
 
Cameras are also on us all the time at grocery stores, gas stations, libraries, schools, Marathons!! Doesn't mean it's safe.

Not like they are at WDW. And none of those places are set up with manned exits, as are the parks at WDW. Plus I highly doubt your local gas station has undercover security roaming around the place.

There is simply no place safer to allow a child a little freedom than a Disney park.
 
Not like they are at WDW. And none of those places are set up with manned exits, as are the parks at WDW. Plus I highly doubt your local gas station has undercover security roaming around the place.

There is simply no place safer to allow a child a little freedom than a Disney park.

Agreed. Not only are the exits manned, but there is only a single public exit per park (two for Epcot). Additionally there just is not quick access to private transportation like there would be at a gas station. There is just no comparison.
 
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