Wk of Jan 28--WISH Walking/Running Club

[keenercam]

I'm back and I really appreciate the posts and PMs and emails asking me how it went. I am really embarassed to tell you, quite frankly. I don't even know where to start. I wanted answers, though, and I guess, I got them.
I guess the good news is :
--->regardless of a person's weight, whatever level a 43 yr old 5'1" female should be able to do, I did 106%. Anaerobically, I am quite fit.
---->I should be proud of myself for finishing the marathon.

The tidbits I remember better, however are these:
---->I should be proud of how far I've come, but really, 65 pounds in two years is really only a bit more than 2 pounds a month
----->As long as my BMI is as high as it is, I should expect to be out of breath
----->The only way I'll see improvement is by losing weight, and after all, it's a simple matter of math -- I have to take in less calories than I burn, and if I'd just try to take in 100 fewer calories a day, I'd probably see some significant weight loss
---->There are surgical interventions for people who need to lose as much weight as I do
----->"I don't mean to be mean, but let's face it -- it takes a lot more effort to move a family sedan than a 2 seat sports car."

I feel so much better informed now.

So there you have it, my WISH friends. I've been pretty much hysterical since I got to my car. Please forgive the self-pity. I'm persuading myself not to lapse into self-loathing. I'd better hurry over to the weight loss during training thread before I attack the chocolate chip cookies!

So, the good news is that I'm just fat. If I work really hard to lose some significant amount of weight, he's sure that a year from now I won't be complaining of breathlessness.

Oh, but he was really, really nice about it.

 

[Chernabog#1fan]

Ugh, today is one of those work days where I actually have to work. Not fun.

Last night was my first day of week #2 on the couch to 5K plan. For those of you who aren't familiar with the plan, week #2 is 90 sec of running (if you want to call my pace a "run" that is fine with me!) followed by 2 minutes of walking for a total of 20 minutes. I did fine and was able to finish it, but all I could think about on the way home is "if 90 sec is that hard, how in the !@#$% will I be able to run for 13.1 miles?!"

As I mentioned in my intro post, I am planning to run a 5K in April. At my current pace, such as it is, I think it will take me about 40 minutes to finish. That seems so slow! Or, is that pretty average for a 1st time runner? Not that I care, really. I just need to prepare myself mentally for being in a pack or in the back, know what I mean?

Could help but laugh at that first part there!
I felt the same way too when I first started out. I would barely run for 2 minutes and thought I would either pass out or loose my lunch. But if you keep it up and don't let it discourage you, you will amaze yourself.
I've signed up for the 5k at Disney in May. That will be my first. I usually do all my running on the TM but I have go out on the road to pace myself and I actually run faster on the road than I do on the TM. Don't ask me how or why but on the TM I run a 5K in just under 31 mins. Outside on the road I can do it at around 25 mins.
I want to try to shorten that time so I have been increasing my speed to 6.3 mph and run on a 2% incline for about 35 - 40 mins a work out ( takes me to an even 4 miles ). Hopefully by May, I can be at about 6.5 mph at a 3% incline on the TM. Hopefully that will help knock down my time for the 5K.

Well off to the TM. Everyone have a great workout!!

 

[Kristi1357]

I should be proud of how far I've come, but really, 65 pounds in two years is really only a bit more than a pound a month.

Ok, seems like this doctor with such a great bedside manner doesn't know SIMPLE MATH!!!! Let's see...24 months...at one pound per month...is 24 lbs. You are down 65 lbs.!!! That is well over 2 lbs. per month!

And how many people lose weight & keep it off???? You have kept those 65 lbs. off and the statistics were against you doing that.

I want to lock this doc up with my old doc.


My 3.5 miles today (and I didn't even have to elbow anyone on the track!):
12:18
11:55
11:58
5:41
41:55 I shaved almost 2 mins. off since the same wog on Tuesday.

 

[RunningLilo]

The tidbits I remember better, however are these:
---->I should be proud of how far I've come, but really, 65 pounds in two years is really only a bit more than a pound a month
----->As long as my BMI is as high as it is, I should expect to be out of breath
----->The only way I'll see improvement is by losing weight, and after all, it's a simple matter of math -- I have to take in less calories than I burn, and if I'd just try to take in 100 fewer calories a day, I'd probably see some significant weight loss
---->There are surgical interventions for people who need to lose as much weight as I do
----->"I don't mean to be mean, but let's face it -- it takes a lot more effort to move a family sedan than a 2 seat sports car."

I feel so much better informed now.

So there you have it, my WISH friends. I've been pretty much hysterical since I got to my car. Please forgive the self-pity. I'm persuading myself not to lapse into self-loathing. I'd better hurry over to the weight loss during training thread before I attack the chocolate chip cookies!

So, the good news is that I'm just fat. If I work really hard to lose some significant amount of weight, he's sure that a year from now I won't be complaining of breathlessness.

Oh, but he was really, really nice about it.

OMG!!!! I couldn't even reply when I first read your post. I was fuming!!! Is he crazy?!? Let me rephrase that, "He's completely nuts!"

-----> You have done a WONDERFUL job losing weight and exercising. I don't know of ANYONE who has consistantly worked as hard as you at it. Listen to me, don't you DARE let him belittle what you have accomplished.

Gosh I just want to slap him. I don't know how you didn't, especially when he said the "try to eat 100 less calories" and then suggested surgery.

I would have taken my sedan and flattened him.

DON'T GET DOWN GIRL!!! WE ARE SO PROUD OF YOU!!! ​

 

[chimera]

Cam...Kristi beat me to it, but I was going to do the same math.
Please, please try not to get discouraged by this bozo. I can count on one hand the number of patients I have that have lost 65lbs...what you have done is an amazing accomplishment! Losing two to four pounds per month is a totally reasonable and appropriate goal. Slow and steady is the best way to keep weight off. His last comment was totally inappropriate and unprofessional. (I can say that with some authority...we used to see weight management patients in our practice). Try to hold onto the good parts. Your aerobic fitness is incredible and the breathlessness is fixable. And you're not done yet!

Meghan...under 40 is a great time for your first 5K. My PR is only 39:18...my first was in 49:59.

Cecilia...Carrie's right about the toenails...sorry I was being vague. My toenails are usually navy blue with stars

 

[deekaypee]

OMG!!!! I couldn't even reply when I first read your post. I was fuming!!! Is he crazy?!? Let me rephrase that, "He's completely nuts!"

-----> You have done a WONDERFUL job losing weight and exercising. I don't know of ANYONE who has consistantly worked as hard as you at it. Listen to me, don't you DARE let him belittle what you have accomplished.

Gosh I just want to slap him. I don't know how you didn't, especially when he said the "try to eat 100 less calories" and then suggested surgery.

I would have taken my sedan and flattened him.

DON'T GET DOWN GIRL!!! WE ARE SO PROUD OF YOU!!! ​

Everything Kristi and Running Lilo said!

I know I don't know your full story, keenercam, being new here and all. What I do know is that you're motivated and consistent and thoughtful about your lifestyle choices. I've read posts about how you're achieving your goals and setting PRs. I've seen you encourage other people and seen how other people help you celebrate your well-earned milestones. You're one of the people who I felt proved to me that I can do the Marathon.

And this doctor gives a bad name to doctors. He's not nice, he's manipulative. He's playing you with a whole shame/guilt cycle, an approach that is neither effective nor humane. (Can you get a new doctor?) And he's inaccurate. 65 lbs. in 2 years is a huge accomplishments (my calculator says 2.7 lbs. a month, btw) and you're active!! Don't let him get to you.

I'll be seeing you over on the other thread, where I'll talk about those chocolate-chip cookies, but right now I suggest attacking HIM and not them!

 

[Kristi1357]

DON'T GET DOWN GIRL!!! WE ARE SO PROUD OF YOU!!! ​

Yeah - what Dena said!

Mel - I was hoping you'd chime in here fast with a real medical professional's opinion!

 

[keenercam]

Thanks, guys. The math was my stupid fast typing, not his error.

I really, really appreciate all the support I get here. As you can see, I come here to get it when someone IRL "beats me up." Intellectually, I know what his approach was just plain wrong, but it is really hard to be reminded of how far you have to go when the people who love you and support you (thank you, dear WISH friends! ) help you celebrate how far you've come. Like I said, the spirit hurts a bit, but I'll be fine. And I really, really, really have so much more respect for Mel's medical opinion than this guy!

I went to the gym instead of hitting the cookies, dkp! It was packed. I just did the elliptical for a mile (11:38) until a TM opened up and then did a "quick" mile -- 12:48. My fastest ever, I think. I can't sustain that pace yet, but it felt good to get it done for one mile.

BTW, Howard was, in fact, indignant and outraged on my behalf.

Oh, and a humorous thing. I started a new, fluff paperback at the gym tonight. Interestingly, the first sentence of chapter one is "In the car lot of life, Amanda Sheridan decided, she was a Volvo station wagon with about eighty thousand miles on it." Isn't that funny?

 

[NYcpa]

To all those worried about their mail in registrations, Lynne and I got confirmation postcards in the mail today. Her for the GOOFY and me for the Full.

Erin got her tonsils out today. I forgot how tiring it was to sit in a surgery center for 6 hours. I should have exercised but couldn't get the ambition after getting home. I underestimated the time she would get released and missed my PT today also.

Cam - I agree with the others about the insensitive doc. My pt rand into a situation like tha with a doctor she used to work with. She had a tumor on her calf and went thru h--- until they determined it was not cancer. She had surgery in Dec to remove the tumor and part of her calf muscle. When she went in for the post surgical visit, her former co-worker said "I see you are still fat". She got him by responding, I see you are still bald. I admire her as much as I admire your accomplisments. She is the single mother of a 12 and 9 year old with an ex that sounds like a piece of work.

Keep up the good work. You are an inspiration to all of us.

 

[Calcio]

Judi

Congratulations for going up for 2008. I'll register for the full in a few weeks and no doubt see you down there.

Cam

If I could lose just 1 pound per month in 2007 I would be leaner, meaner, fitter, and much more likely to get that 4:30 I was shooting for this year. I think you've done well.

Plus I'd love to see 43 again, so don't despair too much. You'e got me beat on several dimensions.

Pat

You are right, in the early miles, in the dark, with slick grass just off the road, in the crowds, my concentration is always on not getting tripped. When I feel people coming near me I get my arms up at chest level with my elbows out just slightly. My hope is this keeps people from slamming into me, and if I get tripped I have arms up so I can try to roll gracefully and come back up, instead of just splat.

I was able to bike Tuesday and run today. This semester I am teaching 4 sections of 3 different courses on T-TH, soph required course at 8:15, freshman experential course where they run a real business with seed capital at 9:45, senior level advanced elective at 11:30, and then the soph required course again at 1:40. Running around and bellowing the topics (think Henry Higgins) in 4 classes in a row is enough of a challenge, but I also have to mentally change gears and material between every class. I suspect a few days this semester I won't have the innards to workout after all of this, but this week I was able to to do it. The positive in this is being so busy it will be May before I know it and the semester will be OVER. Plus on May 19 I'll be the father of a College graduate instead of the father of a College senior. How cool (and how much cheaper) is that?

Good luck all

Craig

 

[hockeygirl]

Good evening WISH team members-

I am just dropping in quick for a brief update.....well, it seems as though I am getting sick, I feel pretty bad tonight.

I did manage to get out for a brief jog afterwork, but I only did 2 miles of the 3.5 I had wanted to run. I just couldn't go anymore. I am happy I got at least that much in. My pace was about the same, despite the fact that I had no energy, I kept a 9:38 mpm pace.

Time to head back to sleep, hopefully I will feel better tomorrow, I am going to see Toby Keith tomorrow night and I so don't want to be sick for that!!!!

I will check in tomorrow and respond more to the posts, but I just can't muster the energy to type anymore.

 

[hockeygirl]

sorry--double post--not sure what happened!

Have a great night everyone!!

 

[Optimator]

Cam - Have faith in yourself. Think of what you've accomplished. No one can take that from you but you.

Kristi - I'm getting visions of Rollerderby at your track. Next thing you know someone is getting whacked in the back with a metal chair! Better invest in some limegreen elbow pads and a helmet.

Mel - Blue with stars? Me too!! It is a small world.

I was supposed to have a rest day today and LR tomorrow but the weather forecast looks a little dicey so I did the LR today. 10 miles at an average 8.45 mpm pace. It was about 25 degrees out. If it's that cold out, shouldn't the run itself count as an ice bath? No misplaced ice cubes to worry about that way.

Have a good night.

 

[MouseDogMom]

Krista - I was really glad to read that you even dreamed about your long runs because the anticipation was so great. I'm not quite to LR's yet, but I was so excited about this morning's run (even on the TM) that I woke up 4 times before the alarm went off!

TiffJ- We only had a little over 1" of snow, and they closed schools HOURS before it ever started falling. Of course, we're the city that made the national news 2 years ago for completely shutting down due to gridlock caused by 1/2" of snow and ice...

Christa - Charlotte definitely got more than we did - I'm so envious! Our Charlotte office got to close for the day, but we weren't so lucky.

Stephanie - Lucky you getting to use the "designer" gym, and what a great workout!

Judy - YEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!

Cam - OUCH! Ditto what everyone else has already said, and just keep on putting in those miles. You are working too hard for him to say anything like that to you. And isn't it amazing how fast/hard you can run when you're mad? Last spring when my mom was dying I got really angry with my sister, and I had my best run ever!

Meghan - I started running a year ago (my training log actually starts 2/12/06) and ran the 5K at the Minnie in 38:45, and I was nowhere near the back of the pack. (I was nowhere near the front either!) Your times sound just fine.

Alarm went off at 5:00 (actually turned the TV on at 4:55 to find out that schools were closed), hit the treadmill at 5:10 and ran for 50 minutes. That's my longest run ever, and I even did a full 6 minute run at the end before the cooldown walk. I don't remember who it was last week who celebrated getting past hump day, but I can join in. This is the first week that I've managed to get the third run in, and it feels really good!

Jackie

 

[TEK224]

Jeez, I don't check in for a day and I fall way behind. Welcome to all the new team members. Eventually I'll get to know you all.

Judy- Yay! for signing up for the 2008 1/2. I hope to actually meet you next time.

Cam- OMG! I would never categorize you as fat. I think you look great! Don't let the Dr. get to you. He apparantly doesn't have a clue how to talk to patients. Keep doing what you're doing. 65 lbs. in 2 years is fantastic. Losing it is only part of the battle. keeping it off is even harder.


My .02 for the toenail talk: I've almost lost one. The dr. cut part of it off last week. He said the rest would fall off eventually. I ended up cutting some more off, because I was afraid it would catch on my sock and rip off. There's just a small piece of it left.

Well, I had my MRI tonight. They said my Pod should have the results when i go for my appt. next week.

Terri

 

[CaroleD]

Started my new program and did my 20 minutes on the TM. Walking from 3.9 to 4.2 in intervals. It felt good but short. I had gotten used to lengthy TM times. But this week builds up to 50 minutes. Did the weights etc and abds. So good day.

Cam...I didn't know you were here too. Glad to hear you didn't hit the cookies after all. Its good stuff when we don't let others control our destinies. Proud of you!

Dena...I don't know how much the Bose earbuds cost cause I asked for them for my birthday. Did you mention a birthday coming? They are very nice and go right into the ear canal with three different size adaptors. Turns out my right ear is smaller than my left. Now that took me awhile to figure out. lol.

re Retrowalking...apparently great for your butt. Not noticing that yet though. But very good for balance too. And hey. I'm going to be really good if I ever have to walk backwards in a race.

No workout for me tomorrow. I have to work 12 hours instead. I'll be back to the gym Sat.

Hope everyone has a great workout tommorrow.

 

[scuba diver]

It's raining, thundering, and lightening this morning.

I get to have an extra cup of coffee this morning instead of running in the dark!!

 

[Kristi1357]

It's like 'WISHer news' here this morning at work!

We have the story about the snow in Charlotte, NC (Christa).

And apparently someone in Houston (Heather) has WISH-colored flourescent lime green goop in their yard!

We also briefly mentioned Philly (Cam) about the whole Turner Broadcasting / Mooninite thing.

 

[Mouse Skywalker]

I'm back and I really appreciate the posts and PMs and emails asking me how it went. I am really embarassed to tell you, quite frankly. I don't even know where to start. I wanted answers, though, and I guess, I got them.
I guess the good news is :
--->regardless of a person's weight, whatever level a 43 yr old 5'1" female should be able to do, I did 106%. Anaerobically, I am quite fit.
---->I should be proud of myself for finishing the marathon.

The tidbits I remember better, however are these:
---->I should be proud of how far I've come, but really, 65 pounds in two years is really only a bit more than 2 pounds a month
----->As long as my BMI is as high as it is, I should expect to be out of breath
----->The only way I'll see improvement is by losing weight, and after all, it's a simple matter of math -- I have to take in less calories than I burn, and if I'd just try to take in 100 fewer calories a day, I'd probably see some significant weight loss
---->There are surgical interventions for people who need to lose as much weight as I do
----->"I don't mean to be mean, but let's face it -- it takes a lot more effort to move a family sedan than a 2 seat sports car."

I feel so much better informed now.

So there you have it, my WISH friends. I've been pretty much hysterical since I got to my car. Please forgive the self-pity. I'm persuading myself not to lapse into self-loathing. I'd better hurry over to the weight loss during training thread before I attack the chocolate chip cookies!

So, the good news is that I'm just fat. If I work really hard to lose some significant amount of weight, he's sure that a year from now I won't be complaining of breathlessness.

Oh, but he was really, really nice about it.

Good Morning Cam, aaaaaaaarrrrrrrgggghhh, I hate to hear this. You have been doing amazing Cam. You are working your toukis off, you've lost weight, gotten in shape, completed 3 1/2 marathons and a full marathon. Don't you dare let that doctor belittle you. No way! You are a champion on this team, and epitomize the WISH "inspired to stay healthy" bit. Hang in there Cam. We're all here behind you!

 

[Mouse Skywalker]

Greetings Team:

OK, I didn't get a chance to post yesterday because I was dealing with some family drama with my princess DD9 . She has some behavioral/emotional "issues" that I'd really not go into here, but we have been seeking professional help. Anyhow, sometimes there are blowups/meltdowns that really, really are just draining. I didn't get any training in on Wendesday. I was going to SWOG, but too busy at work to make it to the pool and then got too drained at home to go to back to the gym. Yesterday I had a great run - 4.5 miles at 9:36 mpm pace. It felt really easy and my legs felt strong. Today I have another really busy day at work. I might not be able to make it to my yoga class at 12:30p. I might end up taking another rest day. That's OK because I'm still on pace for having 4 run days this week, and that's what I was shooting for.

Judy- Congratulations on signing up for the 08 half. That's SUPER! I really, really hope I can join you down there for the full.