Wk of Apr 16--2007 WISH Walking/Running Club

[Mouse Skywalker]

Good Morning Everyone:

This Bingham essay really got me going this morning. It's about the former world record holder in the marathon - Steve Jones. The essay really becomes relevant to us towards the end. The last couple of sentences were powerful and spoke to me. Waddle on!

http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,5033,s6-187-189-0-9049,00.html

 

[Kristi1357]

Well, I am officially a WW Lifetime Member as of last night

CONGRATULATIONS, JODI!
I hope to be joining you soon - only 8 more lbs. to goal for me.

Carrie - I would also vote for a trip for the Minnie. But then again I am a bad influence and an instigator when it comes to anything WDW!

I have been MIA again lately. I can't remember when I last posted, but I did a 5 mile walk/run in 1:09 on Tuesday. Yesterday was 3 miles in 41:49. I skipped crosstraining on Weds. since I was thoroughly exhausted. Yesterday's 3 miles was awfully hard since I was still so darn tired. I also had a fever of 100.6 last night, so I might be coming down with something.

I am going to try to sleep as much as I can this afternoon before Chad leaves for work. Then I am going to bed tonight after Zack goes down around 8. I have a 7 mile walk/run on my schedule for tomorrow and want to enjoy it - not dread it has I have been this week being so tired. I really need to get control of this lack of sleep thing - it's killing me! I also *need* to do the 7 miles under the 15 min. Minnie requirement to build my confidence up. I am so paranoid about being swept!

 

[AmyBeth68]

Hey guys.....I need some Plantar Fasciitis advice.

I woke up and my first steps were sore this morning, in the heal area. So I've confirmed to myself that I most likely have early symptoms of PF. Yesterday I had to run my first .5 miles thru some mild heal pain. I plan to run the 5K on Saturday b/c my pain is minimal and just in the early stages. I may take next week off from running and do my XT activities along with yoga. Do you guys think I need to see a doctor or should I R.I.C.E it and see if the break from running helps. I think my problem started when I was running in my trail running shoes in AZ. I don't think they support my feet like the Asics Kayanos do. I may need orthotics...not sure if I have to see an ortho doc for those? My feet are really flat and I over pronate. I think that makes me a good candidate for PF .

Any advice would be greatly appreciated! I don't want to let this get out of hand . TIA!!!!

 

[ScoJo15]

Dave - Thanks for that link! Very thought provoking article there at the end.

 

[Honeibee]

Good morning everyone, actually it's almost noon. Stoopid work kept me off the DIS!

I did 45 min @ 3.8 @ 1% with 4 min running at 4.2 today.

OK not as good as my "20 miles in 50 min" walk....but I was happy with the running, as pathetic as it might seem when compared with most of you.

MouseDogMom - I haven't actually seen the house yet, but I know our parking lot at work is filled with containers, several flatbed trucks of wood, and a lot of contractors trucks. I may drive over there next week to check it out though. If anyone is interested.....http://www.alure.com/09-emhe.html

OK now that everyone knows where I work....

Jodi - OMG that is fabulous! I'm so happy for you on reaching your lifetime!

Amy - Hope your feets feel better soon.

Lisa - I have to ask, as I often wonder...what IS heavenly fluffiness??

OK back to work. Ugh.

Judy

 

[Minnie]

Hi everyone,

Unfortunately I have to report that there was 3/3 or 4/4 to report. By Wednesday my back/leg hurt badly enough that I stopped my dreadmill routine. The disk issue is not something that is simply going to go away. I do not want to injection or surgery so I am not sure what more I can do at this point.

I wonder if I was pushing too hard on the dreadmill? I might try easy 30 min walks instead of 45 min wogs to see if that helps at all.

Sorry for the bummer post

 

[Honeibee]

DAVE...OMG!

It could just be that it's cold in my office....but I don't think so.

I was just now eating my leftover Chinese lunch and reading that Bingham article you posted. I read one part and I got goose bumps and a chill!

"You find your limit, then push against it - every day of your life"

This is it! This is my new mantra! THIS is the motivation I've been looking for! OMG, I'm having this tattooed on something. I LOVE THIS!

Thank you, Dave, thank you so much.


Judy

 

[keenercam]

Judy -- Good job on getting on the TM this morning. I hope you are even prouder of yourself than I am of you, sweetie!

Dave -- Awesome article!

Jodi -- congrats on lifetime! I sooo want to be there. I realized this morning that it is not enough to want that every once in a while or even 20x/day. I have to want it enough 24/7 to work toward it constantly. All the little slips and splurges won't derail me, but they are certainly delaying me. I HAVE to get serious to accomplish what you have.(of course, I have to lose the equivalent of a baby elephant, comparatively, to do it, but it is not impossible! Okay, I exaggerate. What's the next smaller size baby?)

Yeah, all this, while I try to figure out how to maximize our Disney Dining plan over Minnie weekend, since they are making us buy 3 days worth, instead of two. I won't even tell you how much "fun" I am planning!

On a good note, although I think she has been busy enough not to have posted recently, Rhonda has not given up on me even though my pace hasn't significantly improved. Hopefully, all her power yoga classes that are certainly improving her cardio fitness will not drive her to leave me in the dust. Aren't we sooo lucky to have fellow WISHers who are willing to put their egos and personal objectives behind the objective of being a good friend and sharing the experience? Sorry to go but I am just so relieved and happy, and FINALLY, getting very excited! I leave 2 weeks from today!

 

[RunningLilo]

Hi WISHers!

Back from camping! Had a great time and got an awesome tan to boot!!! Now, packing up the bags again to head up to Atlanta (Covington actually) for the Cheerios 5k! It should be fun and get me excited about running again. I agree with whoever said that April has been a blah running month. But I still love it!

To all those racing this weekend. Good luck and stay safe!

Amy- Girl I'm SO EXCITED about your 1st 5k! Remember to take the time to ENJOY and REMEMBER it. You have plenty of time to improve your race times, but you will always look back on this one as your first. Take pictures! I'll be thinking of you to help me finish mine!

 

[Mouse Skywalker]

OK, I'm having a much better day today than the rest of the week. Maybe I got thrown out of my rhythm with Easter. Maybe I had been getting run down at work this week, but I've been having a great day today.

Judy- the Bingham article gave me goosebumps too. I don't need to push against my comfort limit every day. I don't want to set world records, but I definitely agree with the point of pushing beyond our comfort zone. The accomplishments I feel proudest of are those that occured when I pushed beyond my comfort zone. I really need to keep that in mind.

I went for a run/wog over lunch today. I'm listening to my PTist, and backing off on the running. I did my "activation" exercises before going out, and walked ~0.5 miles to the University track where I alternated running and walking laps. I think the cushioning of the track really helped my shins. I had downloaded some new music on my MP3 player, and I just let myself enjoy the nice weather, listen to some fun music, and have fun. My total workout was 4 miles in 52:20 min or 13:04 mpm pace, but that includes walking to and from the track. I did the 3 miles on the track alternating walking and running laps in 12:38, 12:09, and 11:03. Wow, negative splits, cool! I think I need to back off on running the 10 min miles for a while, mix in some walking, and give my shins a break. I also iced my shins for 10 min each leg immediately after getting back to the gym, and they don't feel bad at all right now.

The weekend is off to a good start. Have fun everyone!

 

[Mouse Skywalker]

Oh, one more thing: I ordered our TEAM socks!!! He said they would be ready in about one month. Sorry, they won't be here in time for the Minnie, but you can train in them!

 

[Honeibee]

Dave - I agree - no sense in being "stoopid" about things. But honestly, I don't even KNOW what my physical limits are, since I have never pushed myself that far. I was thinking more of the limits I put on myself by thinking I'm not good enough, can't do it so don't even bother...KWIM? I have to push myself beyond my self-imposed mental limits. I think THATS what will allow me to succeed. And to me, succeeding is finishing. That's what I want. I'll worry about improving my time in the 2008 Half.

Have a great weekend!

Judy

Oh, BTW... "Do, or do not. There is no try."

I'm feeling "quote-aschous" today!

 

[Mouse Skywalker]

Dave - I agree - no sense in being "stoopid" about things. But honestly, I don't even KNOW what my physical limits are, since I have never pushed myself that far. I was thinking more of the limits I put on myself by thinking I'm not good enough, can't do it so don't even bother...KWIM? I have to push myself beyond my self-imposed mental limits. I think THATS what will allow me to succeed. And to me, succeeding is finishing. That's what I want. I'll worry about improving my time in the 2008 Half.

Have a great weekend!

Judy

Oh, BTW... "Do, or do not. There is no try."

I'm feeling "quote-aschous" today!

You have grown strong from your cruise young Honeibee.

Seriously, something you said really struck a cord with me.

I was thinking more of the limits I put on myself by thinking I'm not good enough, can't do it so don't even bother...

This is one of the things I study in our behavioral neuroscience laboratory. We are very interested in what are the triggers for clinical depression. One symptom is called "learned helplessness" and is just what you described above. The idea that a patient, an animal, whatever, learns that no matter what it does it doesn't matter so it might as well not do anything. It has been taught to be helpless and not even try to change it's situation. It is an extremely powerful phenomenon and not an easy mental status to break out of, but it is critical too. So yes, find your limits and surpass them, that way you will break out of any negative mindsets and thinking. We can all do a lot more than we think we can.

Slimy? Mudhole? My home this is!

 

[MelRhoads]

This is one of the things I study in our behavioral neuroscience laboratory. We are very interested in what are the triggers for clinical depression. One symptom is called "learned helplessness" and is just what you described above. The idea that a patient, an animal, whatever, learns that no matter what it does it doesn't matter so it might as well not do anything. It has been taught to be helpless and not even try to change it's situation. It is an extremely powerful phenomenon and not an easy mental status to break out of, but it is critical too. So yes, find your limits and surpass them, that way you will break out of any negative mindsets and thinking. We can all do a lot more than we think we can.

Man, I wish I could figure out how to break out of this mindset. I am really struggling w/ my mt. biking right now for this very reason. I get so afraid of falling (which I do every time) that I don't ride aggressively, and in my timidity, I fall! I was really feeling strong a couple of weeks ago and then I start to realize that I'm still not very good, so I back off big time! I didn't even go on thurs. to give myself a mental break. I did run and swim though. When you solve the problem for your lab rats, let me know

Lynn - I decided to find out if I could swim a mile. I did w/ no problem, but I think my time was really slow. How long does it usually take you to swim a mile? There is a 1/2 ironman here in AR, in August (I know, really hot!!!) Anyway, you want to come and keep me company???? I think I can talk Phil into it.

 

[aladdinsgirl]

Since we're throwing out quotes, here's one from my Daily Squeal:

"If one can stick to the training throughout the many long years, then will power is no longer a problem. It's raining? That doesn't matter. I am tired? That's besides the point. It's simply that I just have to."

- Emil Zatopek

I like this one too:

“Risk! Risk Anything! Do the hardest thing on earth for you. Act yourself.”

- Katherine Mansfield, author

 

[Mouse Skywalker]

Man, I wish I could figure out how to break out of this mindset. I am really struggling w/ my mt. biking right now for this very reason. I get so afraid of falling (which I do every time) that I don't ride aggressively, and in my timidity, I fall! I was really feeling strong a couple of weeks ago and then I start to realize that I'm still not very good, so I back off big time! I didn't even go on thurs. to give myself a mental break. I did run and swim though. When you solve the problem for your lab rats, let me know

Sorry Mel we tried this experiment but the rats kept falling off their bikes too. Can't help you with that one.

Seriously, I think with all these things it comes down to positive reinforcement and conditioning. You need to have some good experiences on your bike without falling before you try to do more aggressive things where you might fall. I think it's the same with my running too. I need to have some easy good runs where it doesn't hurt because if everytime I go our to run it hurts then I am just going to associate running with pain (major negative reinforcer).

 

[Honeibee]

You have grown strong from your cruise young Honeibee.

Seriously, something you said really struck a cord with me.
This is one of the things I study in our behavioral neuroscience laboratory. We are very interested in what are the triggers for clinical depression. One symptom is called "learned helplessness" and is just what you described above. The idea that a patient, an animal, whatever, learns that no matter what it does it doesn't matter so it might as well not do anything. It has been taught to be helpless and not even try to change it's situation. It is an extremely powerful phenomenon and not an easy mental status to break out of, but it is critical too. So yes, find your limits and surpass them, that way you will break out of any negative mindsets and thinking. We can all do a lot more than we think we can.

Slimy? Mudhole? My home this is!

"Told you I did. Reckless is he."

Young? Young??? Dave....I love you. Young!



I hate to say it, but I think "learned helplessness" might be exactly what I have. HAD. And by starting to push myself, I'm getting over it! Now, if I can just apply this to my weight loss...and stop thinking "I'm so fat, whats the point?" I might just succeed in that too!

All kidding aside, Dave...you have brightened my day. Thank you.

Judy

 

[TEK224]

Wow! Some really good, though-provoking quotes on here today.

Does anyone know if there is still a DVC discount for the Goofy? Last year, I think it was $5 or $10 off the reg. fee. Didn't see it on the form (just printed it out so I can get registered! ).
Maybe it's not offered this year. Just wondering?

Terri

 

[AmyBeth68]

You guys are really inspiring me today. And boy do I need it! Thanks for posting the link Dave, I read it and it's just what I need.

Tomorrow is my first race. I'm soooo nervous! I feel like I'm going to be so slow. I checked out last years results and .....these people are FAST! And I am clearly NOT fast LOL! I keep thinking....I don't want to come in last. But of course....coming in last isn't REALLY coming in last. Because at least I'm going to get up tomorrow....put on my running clothes....and run in the cold rain! That just HAS to stand for something, right? Even if I finish dead last, I still got out there and did it.

Anyway, I've enjoyed reading everyone's posts. You guys made me laugh and reminded me what this is all about!

DENA.....right back at ya' girl. GOOD LUCK TOMORROW! I'll be thinking about you, can't wait to hear how your 5K goes!!!![/SIZE]

 

[MouseDogMom]

Jodi - Congratulations on Lifetime, and good luck in the MS Walk. Hope it doesn't rain TOO much!

Dave - The essay was great. It's way too easy to live in the comfort zone. Deciding to do the Minnie was definitely a first step for me, since I'd NEVER committed to anything that required actually working at something!

Kristi - Hope you're feeling better!

Amy - Good luck on your 5K! Don't worry about coming in last - remember,
DFL>DNF>>DNS
Translation: dead friggin last beats out did not finish and they both greatly
trump did not start.
And more good luck with the PF. I don't have any advice on that subject - just to take it easy and don't overdo it.

What a motivational day for this group! And boy did it all hit home. The main reason I'm trying the Minnie is to prove to myself that I can set a goal and accomplish it. I know some of you have said that training for and running marathons has made a difference in other areas of your life, too, and I'm already feeling different about myself just because I'm out there doing this. I think that's why I was so bummed about being hurt, but now I'm going to do it whether I walk or run, just so I can say I finished the goal I set for myself. And I don't know if I'd have gotten this far without everyone here keeping me motivated!

Hope everyone has a great weekend - good runs for those of you racing or planning distant runs...

Jackie