Will this end up being the pandemic that cried wolf?

[xuxa777]

Can they? The doctors, the nurses, the grocery store workers? That's not very good risk assessment now, is it?

All those people are exposed just the same during the stay at home

 

[xuxa777]

And just getting is a problem because there not really sure effects it has on pregnancies, and many other after initial issues, so it is not like the flu where in almost most cases you are fine when you’re done.

There is no evidence of it being an issue for pregnant mothers, in fact they do better then most.

 

[dvcgirl67]

Honest question and not snarky, but do you believe that the situation in some of the hotspots is isolated to those areas or do you expect that eventually this virus will spread and infect a large majority of people, and do you think the number of deaths (adjusted for population) will happen elsewhere eventually? Just trying to understand the different opinions people have.

And, not restricted to the PP I quoted, interested in anyone’s feedback.

Yes, this virus will spread to every part of this country. Will it be as bad everywhere as it is right now here in the NYC Metro area, likely not. Our population density is much higher than a lot of the country. But, there are stories from all over the country where there were outbreaks before the lockdowns started. One that comes to mind is Albany, Georgia. There was a funeral there and a lot of people who attended that funeral got the virus. I believe one person at least died. The problem for people living in very rural areas is the lack of hospitals and staff equipped to deal with a critically ill COVID-19 patient.

The whole idea of what we're doing was to keep this first surge down as to not overwhelm our healthcare system. If we in the NYC Metro area just pretended like it wasn't happening, it would have been so much more disastrous than it already has been.

So now, as we come out of lockdown, this idea is to slow the spread. But according to many epidemiologists, and leaders that I'd listen to....like Angela Merkel of Germany, 60-70% of us could eventually get this virus. I believe that percentage would be by the end of 2021 as we'll have several rounds of the virus before we hopefully have a vaccine. It's going to be a very delicate balance as we go forward.

 

[Cogswel_Cogs]

To my understanding we and other institution are looking into effects on the child. And in our area we finding that was quite a bit of mother’s to be were infected.

 

[buzznina]

People just have to look back to the 1918 pandemic where the people pushed the government to re-open (sound familiar) and when they re-opened (to early) the 2nd wave of illnesses was far worst than the 1st. Will this happen again no one knows but I do know that the problem are the people who really, no other way to put it, they just do not care about anyone but themselves. Yes, they may be healthy and not greatly affected, but the key part is that they "will" be a carrier. Look at the idiot protesters hugging and shaking hands, taking their kids there, and I heard the same stupid statements from them, that I heard when they interviewed the spring breakers here in Florida before we finally closed the beaches a month ago. We are struggling and may have to file bankruptcy in the future because of this, but my families health means more to me then the $$ we are losing from this.

 

[pahoben]

Honest question and not snarky, but do you believe that the situation in some of the hotspots is isolated to those areas or do you expect that eventually this virus will spread and infect a large majority of people, and do you think the number of deaths (adjusted for population) will happen elsewhere eventually? Just trying to understand the different opinions people have.

And, not restricted to the PP I quoted, interested in anyone’s feedback.

My expectation is it will run its course through the entire or at least much of the population eventually so probably/likely/maybe everyone will eventually contact the virus if a vaccine is problematic (and they often arej. In the case of no vaccine a small number of people will die (and I fully realize I could be one of the fatalities) and the rest will have antibodies. It may be that the HIV medication currently being touted will reduce the death rate to an even lower level than it would be without an effective treatment. In any event people with additional risk factors known to provide high fatality risk in conjunction with this virus should be advised to self isolate.

 

[gina2000]

I think if you are in an epicenter and know people who are or have been ill, your perception of the severity of this virus changes drastically. One day the situation seems manageable and then someone you know falls gravely ill. One day you think things might be improving and you read about a nursing home whose residents are dying. One day you think the sun is shining and it can’t be all that bad and you see or about a refrigerator truck parking in your area. I wouldn’t wish this on my worst enemy. But here we are.

 

[xuxa777]

To my understanding we and other institution are looking into effects on the child. And in our area we finding that was quite a bit of mother’s to be were infected.

Sure but they were asymptomatic or at most mild symptoms.

 

[xuxa777]

People just have to look back to the 1918 pandemic where the people pushed the government to re-open (sound familiar) and when they re-opened (to early) the 2nd wave of illnesses was far worst than the 1st. Will this happen again no one knows but I do know that the problem are the people who really, no other way to put it, they just do not care about anyone but themselves. Yes, they may be healthy and not greatly affected, but the key part is that they "will" be a carrier. Look at the idiot protesters hugging and shaking hands, taking their kids there, and I heard the same stupid statements from them, that I heard when they interviewed the spring breakers here in Florida before we finally closed the beaches a month ago. We are struggling and may have to file bankruptcy in the future because of this, but my families health means more to me then the $$ we are losing from this.

You are conveniently leaving out that was over one hundred years ago, we can monitor and share information at an infinitesimally rapid pace now.

 

[e_yerger]

You are conveniently leaving out that was over one hundred years ago, we can monitor and share information at an infinitesimally rapid pace now.

Except the United States still does not have the tools to track contact at a high level. We do not have the logistical capabilities to do this.

 

[pahoben]

People just have to look back to the 1918 pandemic where the people pushed the government to re-open (sound familiar) and when they re-opened (to early) the 2nd wave of illnesses was far worst than the 1st. Will this happen again no one knows but I do know that the problem are the people who really, no other way to put it, they just do not care about anyone but themselves. Yes, they may be healthy and not greatly affected but the key part is that they "will" be a carrier. Look at the idiot protesters hugging and shaking hands, taking their kids there, and I heard the same stupid statements from them, that I heard when they interviewed the spring breakers here in Florida before we finally closed the beaches a month ago. We are struggling and may have to file bankruptcy in the future because of this, but my families health means more to me then the $$ we are losing from this.

Those that don't self isolate can get sick. Those people can infect others that don't wish to get sick - doctors, nurses, grocery workers. How do you not get this?

A large percentage of people don’t get sick when they have this virus. If you have medical conditions that put you at high risk of serious illness then you should self isolate but otherwise small risk of serious illness.

 

[xuxa777]

I really get the fear about opening up slowly and smartly, the government and media scared everyone literally to death for right or wrong. It is a horrible bad virus to get if you are elderly and high risk that is a fact. Move slowly and absolutely protect them and we will be fine, lockdown any area local that an outbreak happens we can get out of this. This is what the US is best at.

 

[e_yerger]

My friend who is a healthy, works out every day, eats whole foods, got COVID & got pneumonia in both lungs. This virus does NOT discriminate.

 

[RamblingMad]

Except the United States still does not have the tools to track contact at a high level. We do not have the logistical capabilities to do this.

We have all this great tech, but we can't even get testing figured out. I really think we need more testing before opening up.

 

[e_yerger]

THE REASON THE VIRUS DOES NOT SEEM “that bad” IS BECAUSE WE ARE ALL IN LOCK DOWN SO ITS NOT SPREADING WHY IS THIS SO HARD TO UNDERSTANDDDDD!!!!!!

 

[xuxa777]

Except the United States still does not have the tools to track contact at a high level. We do not have the logistical capabilities to do this.

Not true at all. The US has an extremely robust system to monitor ILI or flu-like upticks in reported symptoms, illness or hospitalizations and has had for the last 10-20 years just go to your state health department website and you can see the weekly if not daily tracking going back for years.

 

[e_yerger]

Not true at all. The US has an extremely robust system to monitor ILI or flu-like upticks in reported symptoms, illness or hospitalizations and has had for the last 10-20 years just go to your state health department website and you can see the weekly if not daily tracking going back for years.

Except what about asymptomatic people that never show symptoms? How can they report if they don’t even know they have it?

 

[xuxa777]

THE REASON THE VIRUS DOES NOT SEEM “that bad” IS BECAUSE WE ARE ALL IN LOCK DOWN SO ITS NOT SPREADING WHY IS THIS SO HARD TO UNDERSTANDDDDD!!!!!!

Outside of the hotspots, most if not all states were already in the declining trend prior to the lockdowns, sure stay at home helped but it also helped in car accidents, crime etc etc.

 

[dvcgirl67]

Those that don't self isolate can get sick. Those people can infect others that don't wish to get sick - doctors, nurses, grocery workers. How do you not get this?

The poster you're referring to has made the decision to take that risk. It's a calculated risk that she is making for herself and her children. Apparently her extended family has made the decision as well. If I was guaranteed to get the asymptomatic version of the virus, or even a mild case that I could ride out at home, I'd take that risk as well.

But you know, this is a novel coronavirus. And so far, from what I can see, here in the States we're not off to the best start overall with respect to handling the first pandemic in over 100 years. We still don't have enough PPE. The first batch of test kits out of the CDC were contaminated. Doctors are still learning new things about this virus everyday with respect to treatment. There's disagreement on how to treat the critically ill. We don't have an FDA approved drug to specifically treat the virus.

I'd like for there to be a lot more knowledge about how this virus is behaves. I'd like for healthcare workers to get a lot more time under their belts dealing with the virus. I'd also like to not have to treat me unnecessarily when I can stay home for the most part. Someone else deserves that bed. I'm not an essential worker. I'd also like for there to be more tested therapies and medications available. When more of that comes on line, then we'll think about mixing freely in society.

 

[Cogswel_Cogs]

Yes many but not all of he mothers were aware they had virus.