Why no SSR love?

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[jimmar6419]

Muushka I don't think anyone is putting down a resort or an owner. I think people are putting down Disney and how they are marketing the newer resorts.

I think, people are concerned that people are being sold SSR and shown pics of BCV and BWV and told that they will be able to stay at those places. Those places are already sold out.......

How many resorts is Disney going to sell using "you can walk to epcot" as part of the sales pitch? At what point in time is it obvious that Disney is harming their CURRENT owners in an effort to market off site resorts?


Hi-
I am new at posting with a quote of someone else's, I'm not sure how you do that. (The above is a quote from an earlier entry)
I must say that we were sold SSR before it was even built. We were taken on a tour at BWV. It was pitched to us that we were really buying all of the resorts, but SSR would be where our actual address on the deed. We were so new to this, we had no idea that we could buy resale. We were told that other resorts were sold out. I do think that some spectacular attraction should be placed at SSR to make it more desirable.

 

[Sarnia]

I got stuck staying at SSR last summer. I hated it so much, I decided to do my first ever add-on there! Seriously, we've owned at OKW since it was called "Disney Vacation Club" and there was not even an inkling of a BCV or a WLV. We have stayed at every DVC resort more than once, but we bypassed add-ons at all those other resorts because SSR is the only one besides OKW that ever appealed to us as owners. The other resorts are nice, just not what we want to stay at for the next 46 years. We are not from the real Saratoga Springs so the themeing to us is fine. Being adjacent to DTD is a definite plus. We vacation for two weeks at a time so we like having a home, not living in a hotel. We enjoy our resort time as much as our park time. The other DVC resorts feel like a hotel to us. OKW is our neighborhood and SSR is a beautiful village.

Aha this sums up how we feel about SSR pretty nicely. We also vacation for 2 weeks at a time, so feeling like having a home rather than a hotel is important to us too.

 

[fishermouse]

Muushka I don't think anyone is putting down a resort or an owner. I think people are putting down Disney and how they are marketing the newer resorts.

I think, people are concerned that people are being sold SSR and shown pics of BCV and BWV and told that they will be able to stay at those places. Those places are already sold out.......

How many resorts is Disney going to sell using "you can walk to epcot" as part of the sales pitch? At what point in time is it obvious that Disney is harming their CURRENT owners in an effort to market off site resorts?


Hi-
I am new at posting with a quote of someone else's, I'm not sure how you do that. (The above is a quote from an earlier entry)
I must say that we were sold SSR before it was even built. We were taken on a tour at BWV. It was pitched to us that we were really buying all of the resorts, but SSR would be where our actual address on the deed. We were so new to this, we had no idea that we could buy resale. We were told that other resorts were sold out. I do think that some spectacular attraction should be placed at SSR to make it more desirable.

First off SSR is very desireable as is at least to a large majority of the owners.. As far as using the other resorts possibly you did not read your contract or mis understood your salesperson.It's actually very clear, if you book 11 to 7 months out home resort is very important so buy where you want to stay. If you usually book less then 7 months buy SSR because you get more time. SSr is large but it will have the same ratio of owners per room.

 

[Beca]

SSr is large but it will have the same ratio of owners per room.

I don't understand what you are saying here. Would you mind explaining?



Beca

 

[fishermouse]

I don't understand what you are saying here. Would you mind explaining?



Beca

It's simple, some on here keep worrying that because SSR is larger than other resorts there will be more DVC members thus making it harder to book when SSR sells out. They can only sell enough points to fill the rooms, minus the expected down time, same as all the other resorts. We follow the same 11/7 month rule as everone else so we will not impact the other resorts any more than they already are, since they are usually booked up before the 7 month window during peak seasons. I'm sure SSR will be no different once sold out. The only people that may be affected are those trying to get into properties other than their home resort since there will be more people booking at 7months.

 

[bdb7607]

It's simple, some on here keep worrying that because SSR is larger than other resorts there will be more DVC members thus making it harder to book when SSR sells out. They can only sell enough points to fill the rooms, minus the expected down time, same as all the other resorts. We follow the same 11/7 month rule as everone else so we will not impact the other resorts any more than they already are, since they are usually booked up before the 7 month window during peak seasons. I'm sure SSR will be no different once sold out. The only people that may be affected are those trying to get into properties other than their home resort since there will be more people booking at 7months.

Exactly, that's why when we started to look to buy and decided we'd spend the most time at BCV, we followed Beca's constant drumming of "buy where you want to stay" and not the "additional 12 years...". The common theme and projection is by 2009, if not sooner, it will be difficult to get BCV / BWV within 7 months - which can be discouraging to those that get a last minute opportunity (via DING) to fly down for a long weekend or whatever...

I, of course, have planned out vacations through 2010, so I think I'm ok - or weird?

 

[Tinky]

how the heck did I do that... double post

 

[Tinky]

bdb7607:
I, of course, have planned out vacations through 2010, so I think I'm ok - or weird?
Today 07:47 PM

Nope, not at all.... so do I
Unless that really is weird..... hmmm

 

[tomandrobin]

My wife and I are planners, so the 7 month window is a non-factor to us. Everyone knows that you need to reserve at you home resort at the 11 month window, when you bought, to get your home resort. If you are planning of having that option to reserve at 3 months out at your home resort, then you really don't understand the concept of timesharing. You probably should not be a DVC member. Nothing is guaranteed, except you will get your maintenance bill in January!

 

[boatboatboat]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh BUT we assumed that when we booked at 3 mths the resort we COULD get into we be as nice and have the same overall quality,as the resort we bought. I own at the BWV and would have no problem being told by MS at 3 mths "our only opening is bcv,or vwl". Those 2 resorts we added AFTER I bought, and IMO are as good if not BETTER, then where I own. SSR isn't.............that's the rub.


When the resort with the least DELUXE type features, makes up 40% of the rooms in WDW , ya got's your self a situation.........

 

[tomandrobin]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh BUT we assumed that when we booked at 3 mths the resort we COULD get into we be as nice and have the same overall quality,as the resort we bought. I own at the BWV and would have no problem being told by MS at 3 mths "our only opening is bcv,or vwl". Those 2 resorts we added AFTER I bought, and IMO are as good if not BETTER, then where I own. SSR isn't.............that's the rub.


When the resort with the least DELUXE type features, makes up 40% of the rooms in WDW , ya got's your self a situation.........

I agree that you should expect a "like" type resort when you are not able to get into your home resort. My reply was towards the fact that I keep reading the same "I can't book at my resort because of so many new SSR owners". I think that the accomadations at SSR are not that bad...really. They will get better with a sitdown restuarant on the way. Location is a non-factor since we are talking about not getting into your home resort to begin with. So you reply, in this case, can only be about amenities. Since the restuarant issue is being fixed, that leaves the pool and what? DVC has a chance on the last phase to address the pool issue. We will all be watching to see. The rooms I think are better styled and furnished. So, I don't really see that much of a drop off, but thats opinion. (Remember, before you reply, my post was not about location, just how you use your membership......

Plan ahead for your trips! It works for us.

 

[Mrs Potato Head]

Can someone explain to me why SSR is considered to have less "deluxe type features"? Other than not being attached to Epcot or MGM, what is less deluxe about this resort? Not having a wild and crazy swimming pool feature?

I'm late to this party, and I will diligently go through and read all these replies on this thread, but I must say, I don't see the big difference. It seems to all come down to a personal preference on where you want to be located in your room. That's choice, folks. Disney gives us all choice. And the twist is that it is timeshare, so even with an 11 month advantage, it's first come, first served on the ressie.

Dh and I have gone back and forth on where to add on to our current SSR home. We are going to buy more points in the next week or so. Seriously considered resale to "get" Boardwalk. I have loved Boardwalk since the first time I stayed there. But when it comes right down to it, I still wouldn't be able to guarantee myself a room there WHEN I wanted it, HOW I wanted it, even with the 11 month window advantage. Certain times of the year are just going to sell out quickly - and the Boardwalk only has so many rooms to offer. So we will most likely buy SSR - get the extra 12 years to stay on property and every few trips see if we can try a different resort.

But staying at SSR is still deluxe in my book. And I'm a pretty spoiled person, so that's saying something.

 

[MiaSRN62]

Can someone explain to me why SSR is considered to have less "deluxe type features"? Other than not being attached to Epcot or MGM, what is less deluxe about this resort? Not having a wild and crazy swimming pool feature?

Mrs Potato Head.....
Not that I agree with what many will say here, but the replies you're probably going to get will be :
SSR and OKW do Not have :
1) indoor hallway entrance to room (in other words, they are not attached to a hotel/lobby area).
2) valet parking
3) room service

I've been on these boards for several years now and many just don't consider SSR or OKW to be "deluxe". I don't see it this way. I've never experienced SSR, but speaking from an OKW point of view, guests don't need valet there because you park right outside your front door. There is limited room service from Sassagoula Pizza located at POR and one can easily get room service from select offiste restaurants. So we don't personally miss that. But many will say they do and these are most likely going to be the top things mentioned. I don't think BWV/BCV's walking distance to Epcot makes it any more deluxe than any other resort. A resort can be deluxe without being that close to a park. I also don't feel that SAB makes BCV any more deluxe than say BWV, VWL, OKW or SSR. It just so happens that BCV is deluxe and has an awesome pool. I mean, most will say that the pool at the Y&B and BCV is much nicer than the one at the GF, but the GF is still deluxe.
So I'm pretty sure the 3 reasons I listed above will be the arguments you'll get.

But staying at SSR is still deluxe in my book. And I'm a pretty spoiled person, so that's saying something.

I agree. You GO girl

 

[tomandrobin]

Mrs Potato Head.....
Not that I agree with what many will say here, but the replies you're probably going to get will be :
SSR and OKW do Not have :

1) indoor hallway entrance to room (in other words, they are not attached to a hotel/lobby area).

Definately an opion of each individual. There are many resorts in Carribean, Mexico, Hawaii, etc that are Deluxe that do not have hallways. Not a requirement, just a preference.

2) valet parking

Considerinng on how SSR is layed out Valet service would make no sense. However, I would expect shuttle service (those little golf cart type vehicles) to take us to our room upon arrival. Especially if you came via the Magical Express. Have not stayed there yet, so don't know if they offer that service.

3) room service

Room service should be added, even with a limited menu! Let's see after the resturant is opened if that gets added to the resort amenities.

 

[fishermouse]

Mrs Potato Head.....
Not that I agree with what many will say here, but the replies you're probably going to get will be :
SSR and OKW do Not have :

2) valet parking

Considerinng on how SSR is layed out Valet service would make no sense. However, I would expect shuttle service (those little golf cart type vehicles) to take us to our room upon arrival. Especially if you came via the Magical Express. Have not stayed there yet, so don't know if they offer that service.

3) room service

Room service should be added, even with a limited menu! Let's see after the resturant is opened if that gets added to the resort amenities.

Not sure about OKW but SSR will shuttle you and your luggage to your room at check in and back to lobby at checkout.
To each his own, but the reason I want a suite as opposed to a hotel room is so if I want to eat in I can throw something together in my own kitchen. Fact is I have only had room service a few times in my vacationing life. I prefer to go out.
The pool at SSR is fantastic don't know what else people want from a pool, great theme, bar, two hot tubs and food available. If it's the distance from some rooms here's two things to consider. three quiet pools closer to the rooms, and second if walking is an issue WDW is not the place to be.
IMHO if these are issues don't stay at SSR, personally I love it just the way it is! All this bad mouthing is from folks who have probably never stayed there or just like to whine, get over it and stay where your happy, us SSR folks will not miss you

 

[Sarnia]

Can someone explain to me why SSR is considered to have less "deluxe type features"? Other than not being attached to Epcot or MGM, what is less deluxe about this resort? Not having a wild and crazy swimming pool feature?

I haven't managed to figure this one out myself.

If it's because of valet parking and room service, then I disagree. Those are something you would expect at a deluxe hotel. SSR is in my opinion a deluxe apartment/condo resort, so I wouldn't expect those features there. And who needs valet parking when you park outside the building anyway?

I do agree that poolside dining would be a nice option to have.

SSR already has a Spa and a golf course onsite (which other DVC can boast that?), the room decor seems more upscale than the other DVC's, and it will soon have a TS restaurant...Thinking about it SSR is more deluxe than the others

 

[Sarnia]

Very true Fishermouse. It makes me laugh when people complain about the walk to the pool, despite the fact that they walk miles and miles in the parks. Unless they are the people who get themselves a in the parks when they don't need one

 

[Mrs Potato Head]

I haven't managed to figure this one out myself.

If it's because of valet parking and room service, then I disagree. Those are something you would expect at a deluxe hotel. SSR is in my opinion a deluxe apartment/condo resort, so I wouldn't expect those features there. And who needs valet parking when you park outside the building anyway?

I do agree that poolside dining would be a nice option to have.

SSR already has a Spa and a golf course onsite (which other DVC can boast that?), the room decor seems more upscale than the other DVC's, and it will soon have a TS restaurant...Thinking about it SSR is more deluxe than the others

Ok, the Room service thing - I understand it would be "nice" to have the option, but I really don't see myself using the service either. Room service prices are always SO much higher, and hardly seems worth it even when I stay at upscale hotels, so I rarely use it.

As for sit down restaurants - the SSR will have one, but even it didn't, the options are endless everywhere else - and since you aren't usually in your hotel when it's meal times, or since a sit down would most likely be closed when you did get back to your room, it's not that big a deal to me either. With the kitchen, I can take left-overs back, or dessert back and eat it at my leisure, or just get some late night snacks for my room and enjoy them.

I would, HOWEVER, like a pool side drink. Alcoholic, please. That is luxury to me. But sorry to offend, I'd like it without the hussle and bustle of a thousand screaming toddlers at my feet...so I'm not sure that will happen anytime soon. I LOVE my kids, and I look forward to grandchildren someday, but my kids are teenagers now and I don't need to be sitting at SAB or the coaster pool at BWV's just to have a drink in my hand and be at a pool at the same time.

Valet parking - since I will most likely use the ME, or a town car when that option becomes too pricey (if it does), I don't need a valet.

Indoor hallways...I find them very noisy at night. Just my opinion. I don't think that makes a deluxe resort.

Did I miss anything?

Now, if I find bed bugs in my bed, I'll have to consider it much less "deluxe".

 

[boatboatboat]

well the paper work for my hh add on, came today.

In doing alittle looking at the multi site public offering statement, I stumbled across some numbers I found interesting.

seems that some folks think the ssr main pool is lacking, some think it is just fine.

here are the raw numbers. keep in mind the size of the resort. what follows are the resorts max capacity of each resorts main theme pool.

bwv 102

bcv 61+sab of 1200=1261

vwl 122

ssr 180

vero 147

hh 99

now let's look at the children pools

vb 42

hh 20

bwv 28

wvl 25

bcv 40

ssr none

now let's look at the hot tubs at the feature pool

vb 7

hh 20

bwv 7

wvl 20

ssr 24

all the resorts except vb have other "quiet" pools.

do these numbers compare with the size of the resorts?

When my family goes to wdw we go to do 2 things.

#1 go to the parks.......(gotta love those boat rides, and 10 min walks)

#2 lay around the pool, and have lunch in the sunshine from a great place to eat, that is only a few steps away.