Why Dont you do DVC??

[awilliams4]

No mousekeeping?! Well, that is reason enough for me. (Really, for us it's about staying in over the top, colourful values with FD perks and having flexible travel days to find cheap flights.) Frankly, the only DVC I would consider would be AK(whatevers) for the theming, the others are BORING.

BCV boring?
BWV with Epcot View boring?
BLT boring?
WLV during Christmas (or anytime) boring?
GCV boring?
VB boring?
HHI boring?
GCV boring?
Aulani???

Sorry, don't mean to pick on this particular post but the more I go through this thread the more I believe that there are many people who put down DVC because they can't afford it. Not saying that is the case on this post but I would suggest that 50% of people who are quick to down DVC do that just to make themselves feel better about not being able to do DVC.

 

[nytimez]

My biggest problem with resale is that a lot of sellers have used up their current year's points and their following year's points.

I bought direct from Disney because I wanted AKV when it first came on the market. I wouldn't rule out resale, but there is a convenience factor to dealing direct with Disney -- that's worth money to some people. And don't forget the closing costs when dealing with resale.

 

[awilliams4]

There are actually quite a few BLT resales available already for less than WDW price, not $20 less but less.

True but you have to pay closing costs. And many are stripped and with direct, you get twice the points. If you buy say a 100 point contract in October 2010 for some March Use Year BLT points, and make a ressie 11 months out right after you get those points for say September 2011, you start with 200 points.

For the most part, buying resale BLT right now is not a better value. Plus, buying direct allows you to choose your contract types. I have 8 BLT contracts for 290 points total. Many 25s, a couple 30s, two 50s, etc.

Another benefit is being able to use your Disney Visa Credit Card to make the purchase and getting the benefit of points on your card from this large purchase.

 

[poohj80]

My biggest problem with resale is that a lot of sellers have used up their current year's points and their following year's points.

I bought direct from Disney because I wanted AKV when it first came on the market. I wouldn't rule out resale, but there is a convenience factor to dealing direct with Disney -- that's worth money to some people. And don't forget the closing costs when dealing with resale.

Completely agree! Also, it may take some time while you scope out the best contract for yourself. We were able to buy a loaded BCV contract via resale when Disney had no BCV points available for add-on so it worked out well for us. With the economy the way it is right now, I have been surprised how many loaded contracts are available.

 

[SDSorority]

Just wondering, I know alot of people on here go Every year or even twice and stay at Deluxe Resorts. Why do you just continue to go without buying dvc?

dont get me wrong i am one of those people

We don't do DVC because we don't do timeshares.

 

[awilliams4]

You're not stuck with them, you can always sell em off.

I would suggest keep them and rent the points each year to finance there non-Disney vacation. If/when we do not want to go to a DVC resort, we intend to rent our points to fiance our other alternative.

 

[bakenatj]

My biggest problem with resale is that a lot of sellers have used up their current year's points and their following year's points.

I bought direct from Disney because I wanted AKV when it first came on the market. I wouldn't rule out resale, but there is a convenience factor to dealing direct with Disney -- that's worth money to some people. And don't forget the closing costs when dealing with resale.

I bought from Disney because I had a couple contract that got ROFR on me and we were running out of time to plan a vacation. So I called my guide and made the purchase. Did I pay more than I could of if I had went resale, yes by a lot. Do I regret it, no. We were three weeks out and my guide got me a 2 BR Savanna view at Kadani, that was worth the few thousand I spent going with Disney in my opinion. It's just money, can't take it with me when I die so might as well spend it now.

When we add on I will do it through resale for sure.

 

[pickles]

It may not be something that matters to you, and that's fine. But it does matter to me. When they give me the option of a studio with 2 queen beds, or even with 2 double beds, maybe I'll reconsider. As it is, the layout does not work for me.

I think the resort that fits your needs is OKW they have 2 beds in their studio rooms

there may be other resorts with that, but I am 99% sure OKW does

 

[awilliams4]

yeah that was my husband thoughts too

Where is everyone getting this 5% return is conservative?

I have been investing since 1997 in equities, domestic, Asian, European, and my returns between 1997 and 2010 on these non-conservative investments is annualizing out to 4.6%.

 

[awilliams4]

You also have to consider that when you stay DVC, you get far less maid service, if that's important to you, which it is to us!

Apologies if I am mistaken but I believe you have stressed that the Maintenance Fees (i.e., costs and original purchase price) are too much.

Then you suggest that you don't get enough maid service.

Guess what pays for the maid service?

The dues are lower because there is less maid service.

 

[mickey&minniealways]

I think the resort that fits your needs is OKW they have 2 beds in their studio rooms

there may be other resorts with that, but I am 99% sure OKW does

You are correct so consider yourself 100% sure. A few of the other dvc resorts also have 2 queens in a dedicated 2 bedroom but you would have to ask around as to which ones.

 

[awilliams4]

But being locked into the same few resorts with fewer amenities just doesn't appeal to me. Maybe it does to some.

Few resorts, fewer amenities. Where do you get this stuff?

We are talking mostly WDW here right? Besides Values, Disney's direction is DVCs going forward. Safe to assume that GF and Poly have at least been considered and thought through by those in charge. They are coming, just a matter of when.

With all the DVC resorts on property and more and more coming, how can you say few? If you are talking outside of WDW, Disney is obviously branching out even more there. From what I am reading, they are branching right over the Pacific Ocean and into Tokyo and China eventually. GCV and now Aulani is geared toward the West Coast and Japanese market. I suspect one of the next DVCs will be bumped right up to Disney Seas in Tokyo.

Fewer ementities???? Are you really comparing a Hotel room to a Villa? Stay in a 1 Bedroom 1 time and see if you opinion drastically changes. We will be just the 2 of us soon and while we may do the studio on check in day, we intend to relax in a 1 Bedroom with just us.

Seems like everytime someone says DVC makes good financial sense, you jump in and insist it does not. I am about the cheapest person I know and getting mileage off dollars is one of my few skill sets in life. In many ways and uses, DVC is an excellent financial decision. One thing you have to get into your side of the argument is a hotel room is not a villa. Not even close.

I am biased toward DVC (seems you are the other way) so take that into consideration and not personal.

Thanks.

 

[awilliams4]

Right, but the best way is to stay at SSR or OKW, neither of which have any appeal to me.

No, the best way to stay is to stay where you want. Many people love OKW and SSR. I have not stayed there yet but very much look forward to trying them out.

You seem to be trying real hard to put DVC down. Anybody else get this feeling?

Why are you so emotionally invested in trying to suggest over and over again to DVC owners that we made poor decisions and are wasting our money.

Seems to me there is more to this...some underlining issue maybe?

 

[Ash&Wes07]

We haven't bought DVC because DH is convinced I'll get over my Disney trip obession and he'll get me to go other places on vacation over the next 5-10 years.

When I win the lottery, I'll buy one and DH can buy his own vacation home somewhere else.

 

[awilliams4]

It actually wouldn't make sense for you if you HAVE to stay at CR. The points required to stay at CR (not BLT) are too high. It's always much much cheaper, points-wise, to stay in an actual DVC room, and there are none inside the CR.

Actually, you cannot stay at CR on points anymore. Once there is a DVC attached, you can no longer stay at the 'Hotel' on points.

 

[theSurlyMermaid]

BCV boring?
BWV with Epcot View boring?
BLT boring?
WLV during Christmas (or anytime) boring?
GCV boring?
VB boring?
HHI boring?
GCV boring?
Aulani???

Sorry, don't mean to pick on this particular post but the more I go through this thread the more I believe that there are many people who put down DVC because they can't afford it. Not saying that is the case on this post but I would suggest that 50% of people who are quick to down DVC do that just to make themselves feel better about not being able to do DVC.

Co-signed. BORING? That's the most ridiculous thing I ever heard.

 

[Donut23]

BCV boring?
BWV with Epcot View boring?
BLT boring?
WLV during Christmas (or anytime) boring?
GCV boring?
VB boring?
HHI boring?
GCV boring?
Aulani???

Sorry, don't mean to pick on this particular post but the more I go through this thread the more I believe that there are many people who put down DVC because they can't afford it. Not saying that is the case on this post but I would suggest that 50% of people who are quick to down DVC do that just to make themselves feel better about not being able to do DVC.

I can't for the life of me figure out how on earth you came up with this!


Perhaps some of us have chosen to not participate in DVC.....because it .....

* Doesn't work for us

* Don't want to be locked into something for so long

* Just a waste of $$$ when we can get better accommodations for less (quick example....Bonnet Creek - bigger rooms, costs less and it's a 5-star property....that was easy off the top of my head)

* We prefer to also travel outside of Disney properties and DVC is simply too cumbersome and restrictive

* .....and some of us also like...maid service and our USA Today when we are away from home.

* DH has one BIG reason for him....but if I listed it here...the DVC'ers would pop a blood vessel.


Perhaps silly reasons to you......but they work for us!

There are lots of reasons to prefer to passby DVC that have nothing to do with our ability to pay for it or not.


I realize there are many avid DVC guests......some of our disney travel group are DVC'ers. They all agree....DVC would not work for us. I'm happy that people enjoy their DVC. However, I would ask that you respect those of us who don't agree with you.

 

[theSurlyMermaid]

I can't for the life of me figure out how on earth you came up with this!


Perhaps some of us have chosen to not participate in DVC.....because it .....

* Doesn't work for us

* Don't want to be locked into something for so long

* Just a waste of $$$ when we can get better accommodations for less (quick example....Bonnet Creek - bigger rooms, costs less and it's a 5-star property....that was easy off the top of my head)

* We prefer to also travel outside of Disney properties and DVC is simply too cumbersome and restrictive

* .....and some of us also like...maid service and our USA Today when we are away from home.

* DH has one BIG reason for him....but if I listed it here...the DVC'ers would pop a blood vessel.


Perhaps silly reasons to you......but they work for us!

There are lots of reasons to prefer to passby DVC that have nothing to do with our ability to pay for it or not.

For heaven's sake, it said SOME, not ALL.

 

[mistyt]

I can't for the life of me figure out how on earth you came up with this!


Perhaps some of us have chosen to not participate in DVC.....because it .....

* Doesn't work for us

* Don't want to be locked into something for so long
You can always sell it

* Just a waste of $$$ when we can get better accommodations for less (quick example....Bonnet Creek - bigger rooms, costs less and it's a 5-star property....that was easy off the top of my head)
but you get other discounts with DVC such as discounts on APs, dining discounts, shopping dicounts, etc which you don't get with staying at bonnet creek

* We prefer to also travel outside of Disney properties and DVC is simply too cumbersome and restrictive
With a basic 160 pt package you can stay at over 500 non-disney destinations for one week each year

* .....and some of us also like...maid service and our USA Today when we are away from home.

* DH has one BIG reason for him....but if I listed it here...the DVC'ers would pop a blood vessel.


Perhaps silly reasons to you......but they work for us!

There are lots of reasons to prefer to passby DVC that have nothing to do with our ability to pay for it or not.

My reasons in red

 

[Donut23]

We haven't bought DVC because DH is convinced I'll get over my Disney trip obession and he'll get me to go other places on vacation over the next 5-10 years.

When I win the lottery, I'll buy one and DH can buy his own vacation home somewhere else.

There IS life beyond Disney.....and it's absolutely fabulous! Disney is fun, there is no doubt.....but the World awaits those willing to explore it!