Why did you buy a house in my neighboorhood?

[Jennasis]

I dunno 'bout trees being nature's "maid service". They drop crud in my parents pool all the time. My house is covered in sap and pollen. Dirty, nasty things, trees. Also, ever been in Animal Kingdom? MAN it's hot there. I always thought it was the abundance of flora.

 

[Wall-E1]

Again a bit of revision on your part, you brought up global warming in your link. I merely responded. I also did not say the same scientists , I believe I said such as . You are grasping at staws here

This is hopeless.

1. One chemical that trees suck in is nitrogen dioxide.

2. Gases are being released into the atmosphere at a dangerous level. So, you can add "at a dangerous level" on to the statement that you were referring to.

3. We can reduce the amount of natural occurring gases that we release into the atmosphere. If we use clean energy sources, rather than fossil fuels, it's reduced right there. Trees suck these chemicals out of the air. So you saying that it is absurd to think we can remove these gases is an absurd statement.

4. You keep saying that dinosaurs are not fuel. Who are you debating this with? Have I once brought up dinosaurs or the mighty T-Rex? All I said was that fossil fuels are coal, oil, and natural gas. From that statement, you have become obsessed with talk of dinosaurs.

Why do you keep bringing up global warming? Are you seeing things? Where in my link did I bring up global warming? Please, show me.

 

[Wall-E1]

The article states that trees help cleanse the air by reducing heat

And I explained to you why. You don't seem to be able to comprehend the reason. I can't do anything about that.

 

[Wall-E1]

Oh, I read the article

Tree planting is set to increase in developing countries as 'carbon trading' initiatives such as the Clean Development Mechanism of the Kyoto Protocol get underway. But young trees use up considerably more water than crops or pastures. This can decrease the flow of water in nearby streams or dry them out completely. By absorbing more nutrients than other types of vegetation, trees can also change the chemical make-up of soil.

"They take up 'good' nutrients, such as nitrogen, calcium, and potassium, and leave behind others, such as sodium, that can increase salinity," explains Jackson. Trees can also deplete shallow underground supplies of freshwater, drawing up deeper salty water and potentially affecting local drinking water supplies, as has happened in parts of Argentina.

Exactly. That is why the scientists in the article were saying to be careful where the trees are planted and not to plant them where water is scarce. They were not saying that planting trees are bad. They were saying to choose wisely where trees are planted.

 

[JR6ooo4]

Around my area you can not remove trees in almost every town. In Northbrook, if you cut a tree down for any reason, it must be replace by double the diameter of what was removed. So there will be no harvesting of oxegyn giving, beautifying trees.

many towns/villages etc are listed as "Tree Cities" USA. Maybe you can get your town to sign up?

Mikeeee

What is a Tree City

Tree City Benefits

 

[JR6ooo4]

15 Reasons to Become a Tree City

Becoming a Tree City:

1. Encourages better care of community forests.
2. Touches the lives of people within the community who benefit daily from cleaner air, shadier streets, and aesthetic beauty that healthy, well-managed urban forests provide.
3. Recognizes and rewards communities for annual advancements in urban forestry practices.
4. Increases public awareness of the many social, economical and environmental benefits urban forestry practices.
5. Provides education to improve current urban forestry practices.
6. Builds cooperation between public and private sectors to effectively manage urban forests.
7. Encourages, supports, and strengthens effective urban forestry programs in diverse communities nationwide.
8. Can make a strong contribution to a community’s pride.
9. Serves as a blueprint for planting and maintaining a community’s trees.
10. Puts people in touch with other communities and resources that can help them improve their program.
11. Brings solid benefits to a community such as helping to gain financial support for tree projects and contributing to safer and healthier urban forests.
12. Helps present the kind of image that most citizens want to have for the place they live or conduct business.
13. Tells visitors, through signage, that here is a community that cares about its environment.
14. Sometimes gives preference over other communities when allocations of grant money are made for trees or forestry programs.
15. Provides a way to reach large numbers of people with information about tree care.


But I think you need actual govmt ordinances to make tree clearing or harvesting against the "law".

 

[ogreenlee]

Any Rush fans?

I live on a Greenbelt. We have many many trees and an incredible assortment of wildlife. If a chainsaw is heard you can bet the Town officials will be called to make sure there is a permit in place to remove a single tree.

The Trees

There is unrest in the forest
There is trouble with the trees
For the maples want more sunlight
And the oaks ignore their pleas

The trouble with the maples
(And they're quite convinced they're right)
They say the oaks are just too lofty
And they grab up all the light
But the oaks can't help their feelings
If they like the way they're made
And they wonder why the maples
Can't be happy in their shade

There is trouble in the forest
And the creatures all have fled
As the maples scream 'Oppression!'
And the oaks just shake their heads

So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights
'The oaks are just too greedy
We will make them give us light'
Now there's no more oak oppression
For they passed a noble law
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe and saw

Neil Peart?






Hey Shrubber.. do you know about Easter Island? You sound like someone who would have once lived there.

 

[SAHDad]

Around my area you can not remove trees in almost every town. In Northbrook, if you cut a tree down for any reason, it must be replace by double the diameter of what was removed. So there will be no harvesting of oxegyn giving, beautifying trees.

Wow. That can be a major problem. So far, on our lot, I have removed three or four trees - a mulberry, a maple or two, and some other one that was dead, completely chocked off by wild grape. But I have a couple others that have to come down, and fairly soon, because they are actually in danger of bringing down power lines to the entire neighborhood. Replacing those with something twice the diameter is impossible - these are fairly old white pines, with a diameter of something like 12" (or more), and I can guarantee that there is no way I am going to be able to plant a tree with a trunk two feet in diameter.

 

[JR6ooo4]

Wow. That can be a major problem. So far, on our lot, I have removed three or four trees - a mulberry, a maple or two, and some other one that was dead, completely chocked off by wild grape. But I have a couple others that have to come down, and fairly soon, because they are actually in danger of bringing down power lines to the entire neighborhood. Replacing those with something twice the diameter is impossible - these are fairly old white pines, with a diameter of something like 12" (or more), and I can guarantee that there is no way I am going to be able to plant a tree with a trunk two feet in diameter.

It does not have to be one tree only. if you chop down a 12 inch tree you can replace it with 12 two inch trees...

Mikeeee

 

[Wall-E1]

It does not have to be one tree only. if you chop down a 12 inch tree you can replace it with 12 two inch trees...

Mikeeee

I have heard of these types of replacement programs also. I know when corporations and businesses clear land for buildings they are sometimes required to either keep the same number of trees on property, or pay to have new trees planted at some other location. It's an excellent idea and helps to keep our planet green. I know it can be an inconvenience for homeowners at times, but it really is helpful for our environment.

 

[JR6ooo4]

I have heard of these types of replacement programs also. I know when corporations and businesses clear land for buildings they are sometimes required to either keep the same number of trees on property, or pay to have new trees planted at some other location. It's an excellent idea and helps to keep our planet green. I know it can be an inconvenience for homeowners at times, but it really is helpful for our environment.

I had a friend, who lived in the suburbs by me, but his family lived in chicago. when his friends from the city would come out to visit... they would sometimes say "what is that smell" and I would reply "Oxygen". hehehehehe

conversely, when entering the city all I smell is car and truck exhaust...

Mikeee

 

[Wall-E1]

I had a friend, who lived in the suburbs by me, but his family lived in chicago. when his friends from the city would come out to visit... they would sometimes say "what is that smell" and I would reply "Oxygen". hehehehehe

conversely, when entering the city all I smell is car and truck exhaust...

Mikeee

: Yes, fresh air is a foreign smell to some these days.

We have a more interesting smell around our parts. I sometimes take friends into the Everglades to go canoeing. Many of the canoe trails are mangrove lined trails. The mangroves give off a smell like that of rotten eggs. This is because the mud that they grow in is oxygen poor and only supports bacteria growth. The bacteria breaks down the dead organic material in the mud which turns trapped sulphur into a gas. When that sulphur is released from the mud as a gas, you get that smell. It's like thousands of farts going off at once. This process is actually a good thing, as the bacteria converts the dead organic matter into nutrients that are released into the water. I have come to love this smell. I don't know why. Maybe it's because I know that the smell means that the ecosystem is healthy. Anyway I always get strange looks when I take a deep breath to enjoy that wonderful farty, rotten egg smell.

 

[Disneyadore]

In my country is against the law to cut trees.
You have to go to the city council and only if you have a valid reason like a sick tree or it it is a danger to your house you get a permit to cut the tree.
And every tree must be replaced by a new one.

 

[shrubber]

: Yes, fresh air is a foreign smell to some these days.

We have a more interesting smell around our parts. I sometimes take friends into the Everglades to go canoeing. Many of the canoe trails are mangrove lined trails. The mangroves give off a smell like that of rotten eggs. This is because the mud that they grow in is oxygen poor and only supports bacteria growth. The bacteria breaks down the dead organic material in the mud which turns trapped sulphur into a gas. When that sulphur is released from the mud as a gas, you get that smell. It's like thousands of farts going off at once. This process is actually a good thing, as the bacteria converts the dead organic matter into nutrients that are released into the water. I have come to love this smell. I don't know why. Maybe it's because I know that the smell means that the ecosystem is healthy. Anyway I always get strange looks when I take a deep breath to enjoy that wonderful farty, rotten egg smell.

Your killing me here....you love the smell of sulfur..ok. That trapped sulfur turned into a gas is SULFUR DIOXIDE!!! The very poison you said would end life on the planet !!! and the dead organic material in the mud that's trees and plants !!!! and the little critters who consume the trees and plants!
So unless you have figured out a way to keep that tree alive forever, you have not gotten rid of one iota of sulfur by planting a tree.

 

[princess momma]

Is anybody crying for all the Christmas trees we cut down at this time of year?

 

[Wall-E1]

A little off topic, I know, but this thread made me think back to an amazing house I visited while vacationing in Pennsylvania. It was Frank Lloyd Wright's house Fallingwater. It was absolutely amazing. The house was built in the mountains and the architect was building the house to look like an extension of the surrounding area. He wanted the home to blend in with the nature around it. For anyone unfamiliar with the home this is it:

The home was built over the existing stream, leaving the stream in its natural state. From inside the home, there is actually a staircase that leads down from the interior of the home and ends right into the stream. The materials used to build the home were all materials from the immediate surrounding area. The boulders and stones were used for the flooring and walls. The trees that were taken down were used directly in the construction of the home. By using all local materials, the home blended into the surroundings much more naturally. The home never intruded on the nature around it, but rather used it in its architecture. Below is a picture of the living room area:

(Don't be frightened by the strange looking woodland creature that is sitting in the picture. It is only my son.) Notice the floors and walls in the picture. It is all the native rock of the region. The wine table next to the fireplace is local wood. The boulder my son is sitting on is actually existing boulder from before the home was built. Rather than shaving the boulder down so the floor would be flat, they built around it, and allowed it to protrude through the floor.

Anyway, this thread made me think about my dream house, and how by working with nature, an amazing living space can be achieved.

 

[clovergirl5]

Guys please! Can't we all just get along?

No?

Carry on.
I imagine that there'd be a few unhappy people about the 800 acres of forest that my neighbor cleared. Though he is farming on it...corn.

Yeah, I agree


My posts are feeling a little nekkid these days

 

[clovergirl5]

Is anybody crying for all the Christmas trees we cut down at this time of year?

GOOD POINT! I do artificial

 

[clovergirl5]

A little off topic, I know, but this thread made me think back to an amazing house I visited while vacationing in Pennsylvania. It was Frank Lloyd Wright's house Fallingwater. It was absolutely amazing. The house was built in the mountains and the architect was building the house to look like an extension of the surrounding area. He wanted the home to blend in with the nature around it. For anyone unfamiliar with the home this is it:

The home was built over the existing stream, leaving the stream in its natural state. From inside the home, there is actually a staircase that leads down from the interior of the home and ends right into the stream. The materials used to build the home were all materials from the immediate surrounding area. The boulders and stones were used for the flooring and walls. The trees that were taken down were used directly in the construction of the home. By using all local materials, the home blended into the surroundings much more naturally. The home never intruded on the nature around it, but rather used it in its architecture. Below is a picture of the living room area:

(Don't be frightened by the strange looking woodland creature that is sitting in the picture. It is only my son.) Notice the floors and walls in the picture. It is all the native rock of the region. The wine table next to the fireplace is local wood. The boulder my son is sitting on is actually existing boulder from before the home was built. Rather than shaving the boulder down so the floor would be flat, they built around it, and allowed it to protrude through the floor.

Anyway, this thread made me think about my dream house, and how by working with nature, an amazing living space can be achieved.

A tepee might work!

 

[shrubber]

Is anybody crying for all the Christmas trees we cut down at this time of year?

Yes, well actually they should be.
You see for every Christmas you murder you deny that trees purpose on earth to seek and destroy the poisonous gases that the human blight on the planet are intentionally trying to destroy.
The amount of poison not magically removed is equal to the amount needed to kill one kitten. Many people do not know that 'Tannenbaum' correctly translated is ' Little green kitten killer '

And remember that when you do put the kitten killer in the house, if you go as far to put lights on it, the energy needed to produce that also produces enough poison to prevent the cave dwelling albino pygmy snail darter from reproducing to it's full potential.

So go ahead and cut down those trees, you kitten killers, I for one will hope for the magical day when cave dwelling albino pygmy snail darters once again roam the vast plains in thundering herds like they have in the past.