Why all the BWV Resales

[crisi]

I think half the problem is that people do not treat the rooms as if it were their own home.

Or they don't treat their own homes as well as you'd like - and treat DVC similarly. I treat the DVC resorts better than I treat my own home - but we let our kids eat on the couch, wear shoes in our house, have dog nose prints on the front glass window this morning, track snow through (don't have much of an ability to even try that at DVC), muddy boots. Homes are, to me, to be lived in - and if the carpet needs to be pulled up and replaced occasionally and it doesn't look like a showroom - that's fine for me at home with two kids and a dog.

What I notice about DVC tends to be the stuff that you'd expect from a small apartment that gets moved in and out of every week. Sometimes someone has dropped grape jelly on the carpet. Sometimes there are marks on the wall from someone's suitcase. Sometimes a little kid has gotten the crayons and found the wall (I think that happens at least once in everyone's home if they have small kids). And then there is the drawer/cupboard issues - but that's just a furniture quality issue.

 

[chunkygal]

We Own at BWV And I would add on in a second. The only bad thing is that it seems like we can't ever get a room there! On the waiting list now with our fingers crossed.

And I sure do hope they extend contracts

 

[tx2tn]

We Own at BWV And I would add on in a second. The only bad thing is that it seems like we can't ever get a room there! On the waiting list now with our fingers crossed.

And I sure do hope they extend contracts

My DW and I are wanting to buy BWV, how hard IS it to get a ressie? We would typically go during off peak times.

 

[tiaquessa]

Or they don't treat their own homes as well as you'd like - and treat DVC similarly. I treat the DVC resorts better than I treat my own home - but we let our kids eat on the couch, wear shoes in our house, have dog nose prints on the front glass window this morning, track snow through (don't have much of an ability to even try that at DVC), muddy boots. Homes are, to me, to be lived in - and if the carpet needs to be pulled up and replaced occasionally and it doesn't look like a showroom - that's fine for me at home with two kids and a dog.

What I notice about DVC tends to be the stuff that you'd expect from a small apartment that gets moved in and out of every week. Sometimes someone has dropped grape jelly on the carpet. Sometimes there are marks on the wall from someone's suitcase. Sometimes a little kid has gotten the crayons and found the wall (I think that happens at least once in everyone's home if they have small kids). And then there is the drawer/cupboard issues - but that's just a furniture quality issue.

That's exactly what I mean. If there are marks on the walls, the floor, or whatever, fix it before it becomes a bigger problem.

Now to be fair to the maintenance staff, I'm sure they are pressured from their bosses saying " we've got a family checking in, and they're coming up to the room in 2 hours." There's no way they can have the room cleaned, carpet cleaned, walls painted, and bathroom tiles scrubed in that amount of time. I'm sure they have a maintenance program, but I would take one room at a time, do a complete renovation/upgrade, and move on to the next room.

 

[crisi]

That's exactly what I mean. If there are marks on the walls, the floor, or whatever, fix it before it becomes a bigger problem.

Now to be fair to the maintenance staff, I'm sure they are pressured from their bosses saying " we've got a family checking in, and they're coming up to the room in 2 hours." There's no way they can have the room cleaned, carpet cleaned, walls painted, and bathroom tiles scrubed in that amount of time. I'm sure they have a maintenance program, but I would take one room at a time, do a complete renovation/upgrade, and move on to the next room.

Well, remember that every time they send maintenance up for a mark on the walls, DVC increases their maintenance expense. DVC is a very expensive timeshare to own in terms of dues already - and a lot of members do a lot of complaining every year when dues go up. Personally, I'd rather have marks on the wall than dues even more expensive then they are now.

 

[BWV Dreamin]

Well, remember that every time they send maintenance up for a mark on the walls, DVC increases their maintenance expense. DVC is a very expensive timeshare to own in terms of dues already - and a lot of members do a lot of complaining every year when dues go up. Personally, I'd rather have marks on the wall than dues even more expensive then they are now.

You have a really down to earth attitude about DVC. I think alot of people expect immaculate, brand new furnishings. With the volume of people staying at DVC, I don't ever expect that to happen. Its just like when people buy a brand new house, you still get those that still don't cut the grass, take in the trash cans, paint the shutters, etc.

 

[Inkmahm]

CRISI- Thanks for your inut on the dues. We stayed at the BCV in 2006, and the BWV in 2007. We haven't stayed in a regular deluxe room. I like the concept of having a separate room from the living area. We really like the atmosphere of the Boarkwalk over the Beach Club. I don't know- I still have some thinking to do.

I LOVE the boardwalk view at BWV. You can't get that at BCV. That was the deciding factor for us when we purchased our first points thorugh the Timeshare Store a couple years ago. The view was more important to me than the fancier swimming pool at BCV. I rarely use the hotel pools anywhere I stay, I only use the hot tubs at the end of a long day in the parks.

 

[tiaquessa]

Don't get me wrong, we LOVE the Boardwalk Resort. It will probably be the resort that we buy into. I was just concerned that there were so many resales of the BWV. Also, I wanted to make sure if they did a major renovation, that we wouldn't be charged more on our yearly fees.

 

[Disney Doll]

Are there any other trusted companies that handle DVC Resales?

We used The Timeshare Store to purchase our resale and had a very good experience.

If I were ever in themarket to purchase a resale again, I wouldn't hesitate to use The Timeshare Store.

 

[maminnie]

When you consider the number of resales at BWV versus BCV, keep in mind that BWV is almost double the size and is older so there could be more owners moving on to other things in their lives and therefore selling.

 

[CMedley78]

I noticed the need for renovations at BWV when my DH and I went down last June. The bathrooms REALLY bothered me. Broken tile, dirty (by my standards), rugs needed replacement, the hallways smelled horrible, etc. We loved the location, but missed the newness and cleanness of SSR. I am sure that BWV will get a renovation sometime soon. It is one of the hottest places to stay because of the location. When soon, I don't know. We will most likely stay there again, but not for a while. I'll wait for the renovations.

 

[tiaquessa]

Speaking of renovating the BWV, has anyone heard anything about if its even planning to be done. We all keep talking about it, but some bigwig from Disney needs to read our threads to put a fire under their butts.

 

[LakeAriel]

We were told in August it was to be done soon...

 

[WALTSAGOD]

We Own at BWV And I would add on in a second. The only bad thing is that it seems like we can't ever get a room there! On the waiting list now with our fingers crossed.

And I sure do hope they extend contracts

When do you go and how far out do you ususally try to book?

Are you saying that you take full adavantage of the 11 month preference and still can't get what you want?!

 

[CarolMN]

We Own at BWV And I would add on in a second. The only bad thing is that it seems like we can't ever get a room there! On the waiting list now with our fingers crossed.

And I sure do hope they extend contracts

My DW and I are wanting to buy BWV, how hard IS it to get a ressie? We would typically go during off peak times.

We have vacationed at the BWV at least once a year since 2000 - sometimes more often. We reserve mostly in standard view rooms, but occasionally, Boardwalk view rooms. Our trips are mostly in early December or during Food & Wine Festival. Arguably, those are the most difficult times and most difficult booking categories to reserve.

That said, we have NEVER had a problem getting our first choice of dates and room size. We use the 11 month window.

If you don't (or can't) use the 11 month window, you will have trouble getting into the BWV. In spite of all the complaints (many are justified, I'm sure) the BWV remain very, very popular. Lots of members try to get the BWV when the 7 month window opens.

Don't buy BWV unless you can use the 11 month window.

 

[luna99]

If you don't (or can't) use the 11 month window, you will have trouble getting into the BWV.

really? even if you went during off season and didn't care what room view you got? I really love BWV (mostly because DH and I got married there) but haven't seen the inside of them (the room decor seems a bit, busy, to me) and I obviously don't like that it has the highest dues so I was thinking when I finally do buy into DVC of getting SSR and then occasionally trying to get into BWV. Would I have a hard time doing so at the 7 month window (that's what you get right? for other resorts beside your home? 7 months?) during off season in a standard view?

 

[crisi]

really? even if you went during off season and didn't care what room view you got? I really love BWV (mostly because DH and I got married there) but haven't seen the inside of them (the room decor seems a bit, busy, to me) and I obviously don't like that it has the highest dues so I was thinking when I finally do buy into DVC of getting SSR and then occasionally trying to get into BWV. Would I have a hard time doing so at the 7 month window (that's what you get right? for other resorts beside your home? 7 months?) during off season in a standard view?

You'll probably have plenty of opportunities to stay at BW. A few of them may even allow you to stay Standard View - but probably not too many of them. Pretty much year round, you are lucky if there are standard views available at seven months, particularly lucky if you get them in October through December - but plenty of DISers have gotten them in the past. They are only about 20% of the resort, Boardwalk View is another 20% and the misnamed preferred view (that I've never heard of anyone preferring) is the majority (60%) of the resort. Standard View rooms are one of the great DVC bargains - all the benefits of the Epcot location and points lower than SSR. Which means that a LOT of people who own BWV own it specifically for Standard View or Boardwalk View rooms, and a lot of people who don't find those rooms attractive and try and book them at seven months. As DVC grows, that number of non-owners gets larger each year - in response, owners themselves call earlier and earlier to avoid getting shut out at home.

 

[CarolMN]

I agree with crisi - except I don't think "plenty" is a good word to use. It may seem like plenty, especially when people post they got in. (I think those posts support the difficulty of getting into the BWV. We hardly ever see posts by people who are excited to have gotten into SSR or OKW at 7 months). I think that plenty is a relative term - there are way more people who want to get into BWV and don't get in than those who do. Waitlist posts are full of people who want BWV, VWL & BCV.

There will almost always be some people who can get into the BWV by booking at 7 months. It's just not something you should count on. Those who get SV or BW view at 7 months (even for "off season") should count themselves lucky.

 

[tiaquessa]

We reserve mostly in standard view rooms,

When we go to WDW, we are rarely in the room that much. We are the type of people who are at the parks all day, but like the space of the one bedroom villa. Do you think its worth the extra money for a preferred view, or should we stick with the standard view.

 

[tiaquessa]

CRISI- you must have been typing the same time as I was. Thanks for answering my question.