Who here is not in the "clique" like me? Part 4

[Tinkerbell_Girl]

I really want to go to TDS, but I am trying to save my money. I do have a 15% coupon, but it's not good until the 16th.



I just started feeling really bad. I started getting really hot and nauseous; I want to go home. I don't want to be sick.

I hope you feel better! I've been wanting to go to TDS too, I went to one of the malls that had one on the 4th, but it was closed for remodeling!

I went to Wal-Mart over lunch and ended up buying 2 cute Tink tees and some lipstick and nail polish to match my dress.

 

[lindakmonty]

That's my evil plan! They have not toured, or even thought about it... but so far they are already very impressed with SSR and my dad keeps researching, and I keep dropping hints about how much money people are saving who bought years ago, and how if you go a lot it can be such a good deal, and and and

I can send you where I've already averaged it out per year on how much per year the dues would go up per year for the next 34 years and everything I know...I've lost it It comes down to ...if you go a lot...you'll save! and YOU go a lot

I hope you feel better! I've been wanting to go to TDS too, I went to one of the malls that had one on the 4th, but it was closed for remodeling!

I went to Wal-Mart over lunch and ended up buying 2 cute Tink tees and some lipstick and nail polish to match my dress.

remodeling...how dare they I hate that! I know they have to sometimes..but over a holiday...come on ! Sounds like some good shopping over lunch! I ran to Meijer and got supplies to organize my pages for our trip

 

[DisneyGirl4188]

I can send you where I've already averaged it out per year on how much per year the dues would go up per year for the next 34 years and everything I know...I've lost it It comes down to ...if you go a lot...you'll save! and YOU go a lot

You are too much!

 

[lindakmonty]

You are too much!

wow...I read that and I think I think I have it figured out PER YEAR oops...typed that a few too many times OH I'm so glad it's Friday!!

 

[Tinkerbell_Girl]

I can send you where I've already averaged it out per year on how much per year the dues would go up per year for the next 34 years and everything I know...I've lost it It comes down to ...if you go a lot...you'll save! and YOU go a lot

remodeling...how dare they I hate that! I know they have to sometimes..but over a holiday...come on ! Sounds like some good shopping over lunch! I ran to Meijer and got supplies to organize my pages for our trip

I know! How dare they! I went there about a month ago and they are still remodeling! Hurry up!

 

[luvdzne]

Family vent ahead!!!

I don't remember if I mentioned before how my mom asked for the girls to come stay with them a week or so while my dad is off work (he gets the first 2 weeks off in July). After all that has happened in the past I don't trust them to have my kids and besides that, Brittany flat out refuses to go. So I thought I would ask them to come here for a few days to spend time with the girls. They have not seen them since Christmas and that was only for a few hours and before that the last time was last July. Anyway, my parent's response to the offer was that my father had a ton of stuff to do around the house and he wanted to work on it and get it done before he goes back to work. Well this made me so mad that they can't stop gardening and whatever nonsense they have to do to come spend sometime with their grandchildren that they claim they miss so much. When Brittany asked why they were not coming I told her that her grandpa had stuff he needed to get done. Her response was "why do they even ask to have us, every time we go we end up doing nothing that they promise us to do because he always has stupid stuff to do!" She said "they don't even know who we are or what we like because they never ask or take the time to get to know us." How sad is that!

Oh and when I told my mom Brittany didn't want to come to her house, she had really no reaction other than asking if she could talk to her about it. Um no, I don't think so!!! We are not playing that game and her trying to make Britt feel guilty she doesn't want to go.

So for over a month now I have avoided any talk about the girls visiting. A bit ago my dad called to see if we were home yet (I didn't call them nor tell them when we would be home) and how our trip was. I again tried to be nice and said since next week was his last week off why don't they come for a few days to see the girls. His response was...."I don't know, I want to take the boat out and I have some caulking to do around here and a bunch of other things." What the heck!!! I don't even believe he can't take a few days out of his "busy" schedule to come see these girls!!

Then he asked to talk to the girls and Maddie was telling him how much she misses him and wants to see him. The sad thing is I don't even think this made him feel bad.

I swear I am so happy with my choice to keep them far out of my life. I know that is a crappy thing to say, but the choices they have made and things they have said and done are unacceptable. They have upset my children too many times and those are not the memories I want for my children.


Michele....Thank you guys for being my family!

OK vent over, I can get on with my day now!!! I think I need some chocolate!

 

[lindakmonty]

I know! How dare they! I went there about a month ago and they are still remodeling! Hurry up!

You would think they'd do that stuff in January...or the lighter months geesh!

How sad is that!

that is sad Lesa!! I don't blame you a bit. They miss them and want to see them..but they have to much to do to come see them... that doesn't make any sense. Or maybe it all comes down to priorities that is how my mom is...she's never been to any of the grandkids practices, games, birthday parties...nothing...ever and she MIGHT work 20 hrs a week I wish we could move away!!! Closer to wdw of coarse

 

[DznyFan]

Lyzziesmom - TDS retail therapy!!! I love it!

Lesa - I'm so sorry, I really understand what you're going thru and it's so unfair to the grandkids!

Linda and Lesa - yeah, I share your grandparent problem - one set lives here in the same town and they haven't seen her since she was in the 2nd grade. How freakin' pathetic is that!? My dad, on the other hand, has seen her much more often than the ones here. (my mom passed away 3 years ago)

 

[lyzziesmom]

Linda: Is that calculation per month? I'm just not really clear on that. Yes I do go to WDW a lot, but I think I still spend less than DVC because I really do travel on the cheap. February was an exception, that was probably my most expensive trip but I figured it was worth it because I was meeting all you guys. Normally I would not stay in a moderate and eat at TS every day without free dining. But if my parents decide to buy into DVC... oh the possibilities!

Lesa: I can totally relate to your family problems. Your parents sound just like Lyzzie's grandparents. They are always asking us to come down, or me to send her to see them, and trying to give me a guilt trip about how much they miss her and love her... but they haven't been here to see her since she was 5 and now she'll be 9 in a couple months. Their excuse? They don't have the money. Um hello, there are TWO of you working full-time jobs!! There's only ONE of me, and I have a crappy low-paying job and just recently got off of government assistance!#Q$%

Whew, ok I feel better now. I just meant to say that I'm sorry they can't make your girls a priority. It sucks, but there's nothing you can do. I think you are doing the right thing. I grew up visiting my grandparents about once a year, sometimes less, so it seems normal to me that they don't know me too well. Especially my dad's parents, I was something like the 20th grandchild and there were already great-grandchildren by the time I was born, so I was lucky if they even remembered who I was!

 

[pozey]

Hey everyone. My how you guys have been chatty today.

First off, I would like to give Tink85 a big Cliqueless Clique WELCOME!! Join in anytime!!

DznyFan…….I am sorry to hear that your DH has nixed the idea of a Disney trip over Fall Break. You still have time to change his mind though. And from what I gather, I’m sure Erin will be working on him as well…… In the meantime, look for every “Disney-themed” show on television – the Travel Channel, Food Network, History Channel, whatever – and make sure he’s around when they come on. Speaking of which, the Travel Channel had on an old “WDW: Behind the Scenes” show on last night. But it had new updates in it. It had info on the Cinderella Suite inside the Castle, the Nemo ride, and other stuff. Instead of making a whole new show, they just mixed in some newer information.

 

[lindakmonty]

Lyzziesmom - TDS retail therapy!!! I love it!

Lesa - I'm so sorry, I really understand what you're going thru and it's so unfair to the grandkids!

Linda and Lesa - yeah, I share your grandparent problem - one set lives here in the same town and they haven't seen her since she was in the 2nd grade. How freakin' pathetic is that!? My dad, on the other hand, has seen her much more often than the ones here. (my mom passed away 3 years ago)

they haven't seen her since she was in the 2nd grade geesh...sounds like my dads parents... I can just about count on my hands how many times I ever saw them..thanks to my parents divorce when I was 3...but my moms parents....I literally spent years of my life w/them what a difference! My dad hardly ever sees Kenny...maybe twice a year...and he lives 20 minutes away but he sees my sisters kids a few times a week...but that is b/c he runs them to their sports. Kennys dads parents...well, he is living there now so they don't have a choice. I know they love him...but his mom is in very bad mental health!!!

Linda: Is that calculation per month? I'm just not really clear on that. Yes I do go to WDW a lot, but I think I still spend less than DVC because I really do travel on the cheap. February was an exception, that was probably my most expensive trip but I figured it was worth it because I was meeting all you guys. Normally I would not stay in a moderate and eat at TS every day without free dining. But if my parents decide to buy into DVC... oh the possibilities!

we usually go on the cheap too...really! even our honeymoon we spent 10 nights at POP...we did do the ddp..but normally probably wouldn't... its just that at the timeshare store and the other few sites, sometimes there will be listings really cheap per point or some will have points still from 2006 AND 2007 still to be used!!! Example..there was on that was for 200 points...approx 15k. well if I took the 200 from 06' 200 from 07' and 100 from 08' and rented them...that's 500 points that could easily rent out for 5k...basically taking the actual price to 10k. dividing that 10k into 34 years you'll use it...it would cost you $294 a year plus dues...depends where they're at...but they would be about $880 total of $1174 per year plus any small increase in dues per year... 200 points for $1174 a year is CHEAP!! I mean...cheaper than any value resort... even in a 1 bdrm at OKW is only 80 points for the Sun-Thurs or 40 points in a studio Sun-Thurs..I can send you where I took what the average increase has been over the past 15 years and calculated it out to what it would be per year in dues if it continued at the same rate throughout the entire contract.

 

[Tinkerbell_Girl]

Lesa- I am sorry about your parents. They should take the time out of their "busy" lives to come see their grandchildren.

Dznyfan- Wow, they haven't seen Erin since she was in 2nd grade and they live in the same town!!! That's so sad.

Well, on a good note, I bought my MVMCP tickets! I printed them out and put them in my Walmart bag and am going to guard them with my life until I get home! But the one thing I worry about with printed tickets is will they accept them or not. I know they will, but I will be paranoid about it until I walk thru the turnstiles!

 

[lindakmonty]

Hey everyone. My how you guys have been chatty today.

First off, I would like to give Tink85 a big Cliqueless Clique WELCOME!! Join in anytime!!

DznyFan…….I am sorry to hear that your DH has nixed the idea of a Disney trip over Fall Break. You still have time to change his mind though. And from what I gather, I’m sure Erin will be working on him as well…… In the meantime, look for every “Disney-themed” show on television – the Travel Channel, Food Network, History Channel, whatever – and make sure he’s around when they come on. Speaking of which, the Travel Channel had on an old “WDW: Behind the Scenes” show on last night. But it had new updates in it. It had info on the Cinderella Suite inside the Castle, the Nemo ride, and other stuff. Instead of making a whole new show, they just mixed in some newer information.

hey pozey! I saw that show..and right after that was the DCL show

 

[lindakmonty]

Lesa- I am sorry about your parents. They should take the time out of their "busy" lives to come see their grandchildren.

Dznyfan- Wow, they haven't seen Erin since she was in 2nd grade and they live in the same town!!! That's so sad.

Well, on a good note, I bought my MVMCP tickets! I printed them out and put them in my Walmart bag and am going to guard them with my life until I get home! But the one thing I worry about with printed tickets is will they accept them or not. I know they will, but I will be paranoid about it until I walk thru the turnstiles!

don't worry... it'll be ok.

 

[lyzziesmom]

pozey: I saw some of that show! It seems like they do that with a lot of the WDW shows, just add new parts and take out the outdated ones. They also re-use a lot of the segments in different shows. There was an AK show around the opening of EE and we saw many of the same interviews on a WDW show, and some of the Travel Channel segments are also on the Modern Marvels show. I'll still watch 'em though!

I also saw part of a show on DCL and they interviewed a man named Robert Grizzle or maybe it was Ralph or something with an R anyway, under his name it said, "Disney Cruise Enthusiast". Hey Bonnie (aka bbgrizzle) - any relation?!? Unfortunately, this show was on pretty late and I watched most of it through my eyelids.

 

[lyzziesmom]

Linda: my head is spinning! I'm not that great with numbers, and have no idea how many points a night costs. When you say 80 for Sun-Thurs, is that all the days or per day? If it's 80 points per day, I don't see how that is a good deal at all. Our 10-day trip coming up is costing me just about $1024 I think is the total for me & the girls, and that's a LOT more than we usually spend. When I went with Lyzzie in May for 6 days, it was only about $450. I just am always so afraid to have anything I HAVE to pay for, because I have no job security whatsoever and am not good at saving. Maybe I could save more if I'd quit going to WDW... nahh.

 

[pozey]

Warning!! Warning!! Possible long post. Probably depressing as well……
Please feel free to ignore if you would like…..
I am just a little sad about some things going on with my little brother.
A little background……I am pretty sure I have mentioned to you guys that my father committed suicide less than a month after my 13th birthday. Well, my younger brother would have been about 8 at the time.

Anyway, he has always had problems dealing with it. He is a horse trainer and has basically lived his life going from place to place. But he cannot find happiness. And it is a shame too because he has lived in some great places – everywhere from Northern California, Colorado, New Jersey, Germany, Italy, and now back in Oklahoma.

In the past 5 years or so, he has gotten worse – drinking, depression, money problems – you name it. There was probably a 2 year time frame where I did not even know where he lived.

So, anyway, probably about 6 months ago, he calls me out of the blue – after not hearing from him in 2 years – and tells me he is working for a local TV meteorologist here in Tulsa. And since then, everything seemed to be going great. But apparently it was all a façade.

I talked to him on the phone on Sunday and asked him if he would like to come out to our house for 4th of July. And he said yes, he would like to. So, I told him I’d call him Wednesday morning and tell him what time. So, I call on Wednesday – no answer all day long. Same thing yesterday.

So, last night I call the wife of who he works for. And I got the scoop.

He is drinking so badly, that they had to let him go. In fact, they tried to get him counseling, tried to get him into AA, enrolled him in college so that he could work toward a different career path, basically anything they could do to help him out. And he has refused any and all help. He has shut them out.

Now, he has no job and will probably be evicted from his apartment – which they were paying for – soon. I still can’t get ahold of him. He still won’t answer the phone.

I am both mad at him for what he has done and worried about what he might do to himself.

Thanks for listening to me.

 

[pozey]

hey pozey! I saw that show..and right after that was the DCL show

Yes it was. I didn't get a chance to see the DCL show - but I DVR'd it. Did it have any new information?

 

[lyzziesmom]

pozey: I'm sorry about your brother. I know that kind of person well. They will not accept help unless they decide they need it, and the more people try to offer help, the more they get angry and insist they do not need help. They have to hit rock bottom and see for themselves that they cannot pull out of it on their own. Unfortunately, this does not always happen. I wish you and him the best of luck. The only bit of advice I can offer (which I'm sure you already know) is: do NOT be an enabler. With this type of person, the more you "help" by doing things for them, the more hurtful it is to them in the long run. They need to do it on their own, or they will never escape the viscious cycle they have put themselves into. It's a sad and difficult situation for everyone involved. I hope he is ok and that you hear from him soon.

 

[pozey]

pozey: I'm sorry about your brother. I know that kind of person well. They will not accept help unless they decide they need it, and the more people try to offer help, the more they get angry and insist they do not need help. They have to hit rock bottom and see for themselves that they cannot pull out of it on their own. Unfortunately, this does not always happen. I wish you and him the best of luck. The only bit of advice I can offer (which I'm sure you already know) is: do NOT be an enabler. With this type of person, the more you "help" by doing things for them, the more hurtful it is to them in the long run. They need to do it on their own, or they will never escape the viscious cycle they have put themselves into. It's a sad and difficult situation for everyone involved. I hope he is ok and that you hear from him soon.

Thanks lyzziesmom. And no, I am not an enabler. I have told him that I will help him get help. But I will not give him money. He has had more than his share of incredible opportunities.