When they say going to Disney is too expensive…

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My comment was about a simple point of including the costs of what the DVC was in order to allow for Disney to be viewed as less expensive. We all know there are ways to make Disney cheaper, for some that is getting DVC because they anticipate going enough times in the future. When you were commenting back to me you were bringing up things that weren't related to that point, I got what you were saying though.

Whew...okay here's the thing I didn't say anything about not allowing to comment (that is actually the OP there). I just said if you're going to talk about the costs of something else in comparison to Disney then that is in part part of it. If only talking about value well that's totally different as value is so different for everyone. I'd take a trip around the PeopleMover than many things personally speaking but if I'm talking about the costs associated with X and what I need to do to get on the PeopleMover it's different.

As far as out of touch rich...nooooo not at all. I've been very fortunate to be able to do my travels, most people on the DIS know me to be quite candid in talks. You can even see my cost comparisons for cruises back before we chose Seabourn (which is known for the wealthy but dang we aren't anywhere near the wealth we see on board those ships).
But again for the 5th time she wasnt even talking about DVC so why does she need to include the cost of DVC... a simple one day visit to Disney was cheaper than her night at the nutcracker..
 
Did you also find the thread where I talked about how I gave birth to my daughter at 15 and was a single mom and my mom didn’t have money, so where did I get my money from? Hard work. And it’s actually not a lot of money to be honest with you I just know how to hustle.

I worked the graveyard shift while being a mom during the day at 16 years old I saved up enough money to buy a condo when I was 18 that is where I came from. That is why I own DVC did you go stalk that thread up?
Ohh Maybe you also saw the thread where I was helping a lady whose daughter had some not so nice Friends. In talked about how I grew up in a very bad neighborhood. I was initiated into the gang when I was 11 years old. Did you find that thread? Do you need to know anymore about my life to know that I’m not just a stuck up a rich person who owns DVC and is just looking her nose down upon all the commoners??
You don't have to keep adding in personal details in here, truly. I mean that sincerely. Because just like you have said to me I don't know your life but you don't know mine. You sharing personal details such that you are doing now would then be in what effort? To make it like I don't know what it means to struggle? That's getting very personal attack-y here. And it also goes into the territory of "who has had it hardest" it's just not the territory that should be getting into. When I spoke of your contracts it was because that is a significant investment up against a Nutcracker night out, I can see being surprised at the cost of the outing for the Nutcracker, concert pricing has gotten really out of control since the pandemic (well really during it and afterwards).

As far as stalking, the DIS has a New Posts feature. It gives you threads from different subforums. Trust me I don't know other threads of yours though your name I can recognize on other threads. The one thread I mentioned literally had your name on it, my apologies but yeah can't do much there.

So this is what you don’t know about me. I am a go-getter. I am a deal getter. I am a money maker, even though I stay home and homeschool my son. I could sell every single one of my DVC contracts and make pure profit cash off of it so don’t come at me like ohh you have so much money . Wahhhh. I’m standing here in my $10 Walmart jeans and $20 knock off uggs from JCP.

Maybe you don’t know anything about the average person. Because I am about as average as it gets. Maybe that’s why I was so flabbergasted about $500 to go to the nutcracker, ever think of that?
With all due respect none of us are average people here on the DIS. We are talking about a theme park vacation the likes that many people don't get to experience. Many people on the DIS skew higher income or high disposable income. We are not the average people. We may have experiences in our lives that others experience but we are not average. And that's okay. This entire board wouldn't exist without people having the means to travel to Disney (or Universal or the other theme parks) or sail on cruises (including Disney and Royal Caribbean) or own DVC or travel to other parts of the world. And many of us come from so many different lives that brought us talking about Disney, also totally okay.
 
You don't have to keep adding in personal details in here, truly. I mean that sincerely. Because just like you have said to me I don't know your life but you don't know mine. You sharing personal details such that you are doing now would then be in what effort? To make it like I don't know what it means to struggle? That's getting very personal attack-y here. And it also goes into the territory of "who has had it hardest" it's just not the territory that should be getting into. When I spoke of your contracts it was because that is a significant investment up against a Nutcracker night out, I can see being surprised at the cost of the outing for the Nutcracker, concert pricing has gotten really out of control since the pandemic (well really during it and afterwards).

As far as stalking, the DIS has a New Posts feature. It gives you threads from different subforums. Trust me I don't know other threads of yours though your name I can recognize on other threads. The one thread I mentioned literally had your name on it, my apologies but yeah can't do much there.


With all due respect none of us are average people here on the DIS. We are talking about a theme park vacation the likes that many people don't get to experience. Many people on the DIS skew higher income or high disposable income. We are not the average people. We may have experiences in our lives that others experience but we are not average. And that's okay. This entire board wouldn't exist without people having the means to travel to Disney (or Universal or the other theme parks) or sail on cruises (including Disney and Royal Caribbean) or own DVC or travel to other parts of the world. And many of us come from so many different lives that brought us talking about Disney, also totally okay.
I bring up my details because you decided to go look up my posts from six months ago within a DVC forum so yeah, it felt a little stalker to me so I’ll just lay it all out there for you, so you don’t have to look it up.
 

I've already stated why in multiple ways and multiple times respectfully.
When someone is talking about a day at disney being cheaper and bringing up NOTHING about their hotel cost stays, WHY do you keep insisting that they factor in a product that pays for their hotel stays and has NOTHING to do with anything that she listed she paid for which made her cost for that DAY at Disney cheaper??
 
I bring up my details because you decided to go look up my posts from six months ago within a DVC forum so yeah, it felt a little stalker to me so I’ll just lay it all out there for you, so you don’t have to look it up.
Um no I didn't go looking up your details?? What are you talking about? Do you know how the various features of the DIS work? I mean that genuinely? Like how you click on New Posts and get different types of posts? I do remember sometime ago seeing the thread, that stuck out in my memory but no I did not go digging through your posts at all. Good lordy here, instead of assuming things maybe just not? The DIS has a lot of features to be used including seeing threads at the bottom (that was added sometime ago) that might interest people (although that has led to zombie threads getting resurrected.
 
So you’re just saying you happen to remember my thread from six months ago when I was deciding where I wanted to buy next? Even though you don’t own DVC and it was also in the DVC section of the boards? You just remember that thread?
 
So you’re just saying you happen to remember my thread from six months ago when I was deciding where I wanted to buy next? Even though you don’t own DVC and it was also in the DVC section of the boards? You just remember that thread?
Yes that is exactly what I was saying! The DIS has a lot of stuff meant to engage us in threads. It's really hard to forget a thread with the title of basically where X person is going to buy next. I thought it was an interesting thread though I didn't read much more than the first couple of pages. I also like to learn how people's experiences are at the resorts so it was of passable interest to me. Sorry to say there was nothing nefarious involved but a memory of a specific poster's name in a thread talking about where they would buy next. My memory isn't tied to you personally just that your screenname was in that thread. Not much more I can say to that but if you have the opportunity you may find it fun to peruse the DIS. There's a lot of cool spots to it (the photography board is kinda cool too and wouldn't have found that without the New Posts feature at some point in the past).
 
Date night dinner for two adults with tax and tip is only $100?!?
Yeah. It was a new place. A japanese ramen place. $17 bowl of ramen sounds like alot off the top but it's really not when we look at our whole meal. And I do tip well. Bill was around $65 before tip.
 
When folks say that Disney is too expensive they may mean different things.
There’s the group that doesn’t have the budget to go to things like the nutcracker or Disney - so they aren’t objecting to the cost of Disney v. going to a ballet - for them it’s not a this v. that number.
Then there’s a cohort that can afford one or the other but not both - for them it’s a comparative valuation, would I rather spend $XXX on one ballet performance or on one day at WDW.
Then there’s the group that can afford both - I know for me when I say things like Disney is expensive what I really mean is that I’m paying more yet getting less value than I used to 🤷‍♀️. And DVC is an example of that - the cost per point to buy has grown exponentially, the pace of dues increases has picked up, the number of points needed to book villas at new resorts has shot up. The value proposition I was looking at when I first bought is quite different than what someone buying now sees.
Regarding cruises - I’ve really enjoyed the DCL cruises I’ve been on, but IME, there are equally attractive options for an equivalent price w/ other lines, especially if you’re interested in traveling a bit further afield. I’ve only cruised about a dozen times, DCL would be my first choice for the Caribbean or Bahamas w/ children, but for Europe, DCL would not be my first choice.
 
I’ve only cruised about a dozen times, DCL would be my first choice for the Caribbean or Bahamas w/ children, but for Europe, DCL would not be my first choice.
The cruise line we've sailed a 7-day Caribbean is often around the same cost as a 7-day Med cruise (this line doesn't do anything less than 7-days and many passengers sail much longer cruises). I don't consider them competitive in the Caribbean market for that reason though their ports at least some of them are more interesting than most of the lines in the area. Also their home base in the Caribbean is Barbados with only certain cruises sailing out of Puerto Rico or Miami (usually the transatlantic or panama ones) so that's also part of the equation. Flights are much easier to come by to get to a good portion of Europe than Bridgetown, Barbados (frequency and not being considered seasonal for example).
 
When folks say that Disney is too expensive they may mean different things.
There’s the group that doesn’t have the budget to go to things like the nutcracker or Disney - so they aren’t objecting to the cost of Disney v. going to a ballet - for them it’s not a this v. that number.
Then there’s a cohort that can afford one or the other but not both - for them it’s a comparative valuation, would I rather spend $XXX on one ballet performance or on one day at WDW.
Then there’s the group that can afford both - I know for me when I say things like Disney is expensive what I really mean is that I’m paying more yet getting less value than I used to 🤷‍♀️. And DVC is an example of that - the cost per point to buy has grown exponentially, the pace of dues increases has picked up, the number of points needed to book villas at new resorts has shot up. The value proposition I was looking at when I first bought is quite different than what someone buying now sees.
Regarding cruises - I’ve really enjoyed the DCL cruises I’ve been on, but IME, there are equally attractive options for an equivalent price w/ other lines, especially if you’re interested in traveling a bit further afield. I’ve only cruised about a dozen times, DCL would be my first choice for the Caribbean or Bahamas w/ children, but for Europe, DCL would not be my first choice.
I agree. My post was also taking a lighthearted jab at my husband who likes to roll his eyes at Disney and make jokes about all the money we give to the mouse. He wanted to go to the ballet not me so I just thought it was funny (to me) how I was comparing our whole night to our Disney trips. And now our ballet night is like a running joke in our family. But alas people take offense and try to dig up the negative and I guess owning so much DVC makes me a rich person who can’t complain about the price of anything.
 
Hover over the blue username, and then click ignore. It saves an enormous amount of agita, and no one is entitled to your emotional energy.

As an aside, I was pleased to discover that I'd already ignored that person. Looks like it was well-earned.
I have said I don’t block but there is a time for everything. Looks like now is the time.
 
I have said I don’t block but there is a time for everything. Looks like now is the time.
It's really not an issue to ignore anyone, I hardly take personal offense to anyone here on the DIS and this is certainly not one I would though continuing to get in little comments against me continues the personal attacks against me. Really ignore is totally fine :goodvibes
 
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