What's with the Jesus skywriting?

[lovethattink]

I'm curious, in the guy's website there, he has a contact us email and phone number. Has anyone thought to contact him to tell him how he ruined their vacation?

I personally have seen him many times in the sky. I am not offended by it. I'd have the same reaction if he was writing "Sue, will you marry me?" or "Eat at Joe's".

 

[LtlTee]

Did you catch the name of the plane? Holy Smoke!! That's funny!

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that! That cracked me up!

 

[O2BNWDW]

Not again! Everyone has their own opinion on this and it is not win win situation. I personally consider myself to be religious and view this as attempt to cram another's belief down my throat.

So that being said:

 

[jamimb]

Give this man a break he's only doing what he sees is right Im sure (being a christian myself) his purpose is good. It might offend you but please keep in mind it probably comes from a heart of love, not just for Jesus but for all who see it. I think Jesus himself would be pleased with it. It bothers me that people who have no relationship with Jesus or know very little about him would just assume that this would not please him. Someone said that Christianity was about loving mankind WRONG!!! Missing the point. It is about Jesus!! Accepting him and yes when we accept him we and the closer we get to him the more we become like him and that's where the loving mankind comes from. Before you judge Jesus or this man doing the skywriting learn something about them. This is not a your wrong I'm right isssue.

 

[TLHB70]

I'll disagree. You don't see him doing it over the panhandle, or other parts of FL. He does it a couple of miles from a tourist destination.





NED

Do you know that? Do you know what he does every day? Do you know what he is doing on the days that he is not over WDW?

 

[TLHB70]

For discussions sake, let's pretend it said, "GO MIAMI DOLPHINS" instead of "JESUS".


NED

Now, THIS would offend me!


It should say, "Go Carolina Panthers"

 

[Mono~rail]

I'll disagree. You don't see him doing it over the panhandle, or other parts of FL. He does it a couple of miles from a tourist destination.
NED

Someone earlier in the thread said they lived 3 hours south of Disney, and they saw him skywriting the same messages from their home. I'll go and sift through the thread and see if I can find it.

My family lives a few hours south of Disney, and I mentioned it to them. They rolled their eyes and said, "He's up here, too?" The kids did something to distract us and we never got back around to the subject.

We didn't see him from the parks at all. I saw him the morning we were driving in while we were still all the way out in Winter Garden. That was the one and only time we saw him on our 12 day trip.

 

[Mono~rail]

We live 3 hours south and a few years ago we had the same thing, one day it would be a smilie face, a heart, God loves you, Jesus says hi, etc etc....

 

[orljustin]

Give this man a break he's only doing what he sees is right Im sure (being a christian myself) his purpose is good. It might offend you but please keep in mind it probably comes from a heart of love, not just for Jesus but for all who see it. I think Jesus himself would be pleased with it. It bothers me that people who have no relationship with Jesus or know very little about him would just assume that this would not please him. Someone said that Christianity was about loving mankind WRONG!!! Missing the point. It is about Jesus!! Accepting him and yes when we accept him we and the closer we get to him the more we become like him and that's where the loving mankind comes from. Before you judge Jesus or this man doing the skywriting learn something about them. This is not a your wrong I'm right isssue.

...and again this is the problem. You and this guy think a certain way, and because you do, and especially (and mostly) because it's about "spreading love for Jesus" and all, it's ok to go do something that bothers people.

Some of us don't particularly care about your religion. We don't want to learn about it and we don't want to think about things like that on vacation. If you want to go and "have a relationship with Jesus" that's fine. Go right ahead and do that in your own personal way. I'm not going to stop you or infringe on your right to do that. But for those of us that don't care or believe what you do, it is annoying to constantly have that kind of thinking pushed on us, as if our life was wrong. And that's what this guys is doing.

 

[aztecgoods]

do a google serarch on disney and the Southern Baptist Convention. While they have called off the boycott, they certainly had a lot to say about Disney a few years ago. They are one of largest (if not the largest) Protestant group in the United States. My guess is that they would support the skywriter's work.

are they nutcases because of that support? that's not for me to say.

I'm not Southern Baptist, but I know many, I think its safe to say that that is a very small minority view in that group and that most SB totally disagree with that. It's probably a fringe group of some kind that is linking themselves to SB.

 

[aztecgoods]

Would you be offended if I hired a skywriter to write "GAY LOVE" over WDW?

NED

It wouldn't bother me, but I can guarantee you that it would bother a lot of other peeps. I see your point, and I don't necessarily advocate skywriting any message over WDW either. But I do think there is a little difference in the messages being that one is an alternative lifestyle choice, the other is representative of what the largest group in the country (Christians) advocate, but I get your point. Plus to me WDW has a family friendly context, I think alot of gay peeps that I've met don't even advocate their lifestyle for others including children, they mainly claim its "their choice and no other peeps biz." And that if they had a choice they themselves would choose to be straight. But Jesus Loves you could be a little more in the family friendly context, if you asked me, but thats just a single opinion.

 

[aztecgoods]

I think the point is, if we were to presume to speak for God, that he'd be looking down and smiling a lot more if this guy were using the thousands of bucks and tons of time this must be costing him to instead directly affect peoples lives.

I think He cares more about feeding hungry people, housing homeless people, and actually helping fellow man than crass uses of His Son's name that at most gives a smile to those who already believe, and at worst offends those that have been at the recieving end of people using the name Jesus to promote hate, not love.

I don't think anyone is going to go through their whole life not being "saved" and suddenly see the name "Jesus" in graffiti in the sky and then turn Born-Again.

But then again, I don't identify myself as "Christian", so what do I know.

NED

NED I must confess I think you sold me. You are so right. And on top of that, I think writing Jesus Loves you in the sky is more of a "show" for attention for him. Like look at me, come to my church and give me money. It still doesn't bother me, but the bible speaks (in some ways, and I'm paraphrasing) that its not cool to cause attention to yourself, its supposed to be about God, this seems a little ego centric, possibly advertising to where the money could be much better spent. Good post.

 

[Lorelai]

Okay...well then..

Anyone like pie? I think apple & pumpkin might be frontrunners this time of year.

 

[madge]

I'm not Southern Baptist, but I know many, I think its safe to say that that is a very small minority view in that group and that most SB totally disagree with that. It's probably a fringe group of some kind that is linking themselves to SB.

I would have to agree about the number of people that actually went along with the boycott - I'm not Southern Baptist either, but at the time ofthe boycott, my husband attended a SBC church. Even though the boycott was not a big success, simply the mention of one of this country's largest religious group boycotting Disney created a media frenzy. It was not a fringe group of the SBC linking themselves to the SBC, either. The Southern Baptist Convention passed a resolution encouraging this boycott, after giving Disney a year to "shape up" (CNN article). It was ineffective, and the SBC ended the "boycott" a few years ago.

 

[DVCajun]

I'm so embarrassed by other Christians sometimes. I'd just like to say that not all of us are nut bags.

 

[aztecgoods]

LOL, I do appriciate the effort and the sentiment, Loralei. It's just that I wish you would see that what you see "JESUS" as, may not be what others do, and that's what makes it intolerant of those whom see it as something else.

Many people use "Jesus" as an excuse to hate and judge. I know that's not you, and hopefully not anyone in this thread or on this board, but it's unquestionably true. So when I'm at WDW, to see a bilboard of "JESUS" offends me, and takes me out of the WDW magic.

NED

NED anyone that uses Jesus to hate and judge is not a real Christian, again in my opinion. Its the same deal with the nuts that flew the planes into the WTC, I'm sure 99.999% of all Muslims would agree that they are not real Muslims and are just nut job fringe groups that have attempted to high-jack their religion. Just as I think anyone that uses Christianity to be "anti-disney" is also a fringe group nut job that is trying to high-jack Christianity for their own weird and self created beliefs. Not real Christianity.

 

[aztecgoods]

I would have to agree about the number of people that actually went along with the boycott - I'm not Southern Baptist either, but at the time ofthe boycott, my husband attended a SBC church. Even though the boycott was not a big success, simply the mention of one of this country's largest religious group boycotting Disney created a media frenzy. It was not a fringe group of the SBC linking themselves to the SBC, either. The Southern Baptist Convention passed a resolution encouraging this boycott, after giving Disney a year to "shape up" (CNN article). It was ineffective, and the SBC ended the "boycott" a few years ago.

I'm not here to defend SB cause I'm not one, and I won't go into the reasons I disagree with them, but it could also be the case that that was just the "powers that be" in that group and not necessarily the majority view, even though the "powers that be" had the power to pass a resolution and such. I just know the SB that I know think stuff like that is silly.

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

Well, I haven't seen the messages. I am a Christian, and am not offended but find the skywriting to be a bit...erm... unnecessary. I don't think anyone is going to be converted to Christianity on a WDW vacation, but stranger things have happened.

You now what I hope? I hope on Sunday 10/29 he will write some football scores in the sky while I am at MK. I certainly don't want to waste time turning on a TV, but a quick glance at the sky wouldn't take too much away from my day.

 

[Mommyto2Princesses]

Gee Whiz - It's a freedom of speech. We were in WDW last week and while spending a few hours at the pool at ASMo, we saw the skywriting "Jesus Loves You" - my thought was "WOW, someone spent a lot of time and money to tell the world just a little bit about Jesus!"

Maybe the pollution issue is something to look at - but I'd MUCH rather see something like this than all those THOUSANDS of pieces of trash left behind last week after Fantasmic, Wishes, SpectroMagic, Dreams Come True Parade, and everything else that drew a crowd.

Sorry, I just don't get the complaint here

 

[TLHB70]

You now what I hope? I hope on Sunday 10/29 he will write some football scores in the sky while I am at MK. I certainly don't want to waste time turning on a TV, but a quick glance at the sky wouldn't take too much away from my day.

We have the late game that night. We will have to give you our Panthers' score in the fireworks somehow.