What Size Dvc???????????

scousemouse36

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We are a family of five, children are ages 8, 5, 3 all girls and we intend to visit wdw about 3 to 4 times a year for a minimum of 10 days each time, certainly one of the stays being a 3 weeker.

Could someone tell us what size accomadation we wouild need and where and what would be the estimated membership cost and annual fees

Cheers all opinions valued
 
Ok, I'll put my 2cents in. If you go 4 times a year, two weeks each time, one time in each of Adventure, dream, choice and magic and you got a two bedroom at Saritoga Springs then you'd need about 2000 points. 2000points at 95 ppt is 190,000.00. :eek: If the dues were $4-ppt then your yearly dues would be 8000-:confused:

I'd buy a house and rent it out when you weren't using it.........

here's a point chart http://www.wdwinfo.com/disney-vacation-club/DVCpoints.shtml)

wow, I'm hoping my figures are off......:wave:
 
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I do hope your figures are wrong!

So does that mean people who have DVC dont go for long durations
 
Do you have an estimate of time of year? One real "point eater" is staying on Friday and Saturday nights when points are substantially higher. Many people try to work around all or some of these weekends by staying elsewhere and/or paying cash for the nights through Disney.

Right now, you might be comfortable enough in a one-bedroom but you should plan on using a 2-bedroom in the near future, especially if you are staying for extended periods.
 

Waiting to hear your "guessestimate" of when you would travel but as an example.

You could stay in a 2 bedroom at OKW in either January or September (or the first 2 weeks in December) for 22 points each weeknight and 54 points each Friday or Saturday night. 3 weeks would be 654 points. SSR would be 27/54 points and 729 points for a 3 week stay (7 nights each including a Fri & Sat.)

Purchasing direct from Disney for the 729 SSR points would be $95 per point -- $69,255. You could look into doing a resale purchase of a resort of your choosing that would be rough $65-$75 per point brinigng the cost for 729 points to as low as $47,385.

Annual dues are running roughly $4.00 per point -- figure roughly $3,000 per year for the dues on 729 points.

SSR will offer a longer life to the contract, so that's a consideration in determing the price difference.
 
Can you adopt me? ;)
And my family thinks I'm extravagant because we go once a year! princess:
 
Are you home schooling your children or bringing along a tutor? You need to check with your children's school about the amount of time they are permitted to miss.
 
Originally posted by scousemouse36
we intend to visit wdw about 3 to 4 times a year for a minimum of 10 days each time, certainly one of the stays being a 3 weeker


How long do you plan to sustain this? 50 days a year for 50 years?:eek: :eek: :eek:

Unbelievable. If I were you and this well-to-do I would definitely not spend every WDW trip at a DVC resort.

P.S. Is this for real? You know there are other great places to visit besides WDW.
 
My guess is that this is a visitor from Great Britain. It is not unusual for tourists coming from Europe to stay for extended periods and we have many DVC members who are doing just this type of trip. DVC makes more sense in the long run than spending 3 weeks at a clip at one of the Value Resorts and is a possible option versus renting an offsite home.
 
I think a villa makes the most sense for your family. If the majority of your vacations were spent in the Orlando area it would be by far the most economic and simple answer to your situation.

In answer to some of your questions, most Americans don't get as much vacation time as we in Europe do. For the most part a more regular use would be a couple of 5-7 day breaks a year.

As to the number of points you require (should you go for DVC), you have to ask would EVERY holiday be to Disney, it's a great destination, but I do think you risk burn out with such heavy use. Even if I was to choose Florida as my destination for all those trips I wouldn't stay on DVC for all the time. The front of the line access at Universal makes staying at one of their excellent hotels a very desirable option for at least some of the time. If I were to vacation in the manner you are expecting I would limit myself to one 5 day stay each trip (as a maximum). I would also take into account that while at the moment you would need a 2 bedroom unit as the girls grow up that is not going to be the case. When they have left home you would require only, at most, a one bedroom much of the time. With weekends being much more expensive than weekdays points wise you can limit your DVC time to only weekdays, booking into USF or a beach break at weekends. On that basis you could say at the moment you would need about 150 points each 5 day stay (OKW would be less, BCV more) . Three or four trips at 150 points mean you'd need a maximum of 600 points. That comes in at an initial outlay of about $57,000 if you bought the new 50 year duration DVC or if you bought a resale it would run about $45,000. The annual cost would be about $2,500 a year. With banking/borrowing and not staying on site EVERY visit you could quite easily pare that down to 400 points so an outlay of $38,000 from Disney or $30,000 for a resale and annual cost AT THE MOMENT of about $1600. Still a pretty sizable chunk of change.

Coming from the UK I'm certain you'd mostly be coming Easter, Xmas, August and one of the halfterms (October or Feb). Xmas and Easter are higher cost items at DVC but I think 400-500 points would provide you with a workable option to much of your requirements. It would allow you take a break from Florida 50% of the time and you could then stay much longer on DVC without having to rent out your points or let the go to waste. It also would allow for when your kids no longer want to go on holiday with you and your wife. It would mean you could get a smaller unit for longer, again not forcing you to rent or waste points.

Looking at your overall situation I don't think DVC is the best answer if you plan to spend so much time in the Orlando area, but it could provide coverage for a large part of your holidays and still give you flexibility to visit other places. Having owned both ( a villa and DVC) I would say that having a villa (anywhere in the world) does force you to visit the same place year after year. Whereas with DVC's banking and borrowing you can take a break if you start feeling jaded. While I had both, I still made good use of my DVC, sometimes I would stay 2 weeks in the villa and spend the last 5 days on Disney at DVC. Other times I would go visit Vero beach for 4-5 days to have some beach time. At other times I took a whole vacation at Hilton Head's DVC property which made a really nice change from the themeparks every year.
 
Originally posted by scousemouse36
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I do hope your figures are wrong!

So does that mean people who have DVC dont go for long durations

I wouldn't say that is true. Pam is correct about the pricey weekend stays.

But I'm really curious about the types of trips you currently make. With the size of your party, you would need at least two rooms at a WDW value resort. At a minimum cost of $80 per night (value season) for 40-50 nights per year, we're talking $7000-8000 annually for the lowest-quality accommodations on property.

The cost of DVC doesn't stack up well against a Value Resort, and really it wasn't intended to. But if you start comparing costs to the WDW Deluxe resorts, for which rooms can easily run $300+ per night, DVC is quite a value.
 
Thanks everyone for all your replies.

We do come from the UK and usually stay 3 weeks in May we are at port orleans this May for 3 weeks and then we go at October ,xmas, and half terms.

We have only ever stayed off site b4 and this is our first time in the resort.

I am thinking of future costs and seriously considering either a villa in say kissimmee or a dvc.

We do luv the rest of florida and orlando and get around, its just this time were gona live and breath wdw.

all comments welcome, it does seem that dvc is moer costly and also there is no ownership, at least with our own villa we can rent a little and have capital appreciation.

cheers
 
I think you owe it to yourself to take the DVC tour and get all the information. It could be that it is the right decision. You might even consider staying for 2-3 nights in a DVC 2-bedroom this trip to get a true feel for what it is like. Since you will be staying for such extended periods of time, I don't think location at BWV/BCV is crucial. You might be better off with the spaciousness of OKW or the newness of SSR.
 
all comments welcome, it does seem that dvc is moer costly and also there is no ownership, at least with our own villa we can rent a little and have capital appreciation.

With DVC, you are paying a premium price for the premium location of Disneyworld (with respect to the parks and area), the high quality of Disney service and the high standards that the resorts are kept at.

Also, there is only a limited duration real estate interest to leave as part of your estate - this is an issue for some - not for others.

All things considered, in your position, I would buy enough points for about 7 nights on site at WDW (if location is critical to you) and the balance of capital invested in a true real estate interest especially with Sterling so strong against USD

Good luck

thanks
jaysue
 
You might want to be careful about "capital appreciation." If you're talking about buying into a standard timeshare, the only appreciation you can expect is depreciation--about 50% during the first five minutes after your purchase if you buy it new.

DVC units have held and slightly gained their value, mostly because Disney has exercised their right of first refusal to keep the price growing over the last 11 years. Will they continue to do so? I think so, since it supports the rising price of their newest units. But others don't agree with me, and none of us knows for sure.
 
Your talking a chunk of money for DVC for this type of travel. Since you can plan your travel, you may want to consider one of several options. You could buy a condo in the Orlando area and rent it out when you're not using it. You could buy other timeshare either in Orlando or better yet, other places and trade to Orlando. I don't know if there are any quarter share or similar in Orlando, but it you could find one that matched up with your plans, that might be best. You certainly could buy DVC points to use for part of the trips or part of the time but I discourage buying that many DVC points for the stated purpose. The cheapest option using regular timeshares would get you in at about $5000 for 6 weeks with yearly dues about $1000 and trading fees around $1000 per year, this would be using South African timeshares.
 



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