What should I expect? Update #2 post 116**

Thanks for the updates, OP. I can't believe this guy is going to try to play it off like nothing happened. Is he so stupid he thinks the principal is going to lie to the police for him??? Good grief, the guy definitely sounds like he has problems.

I feel badly for his wife, the new teacher in a small town, as well. Then again, maybe this is just the wakeup call she needs to ditch a loser.
 
I hope his wife has other skills besides teaching because I won't be surprised if the school board recinds her contract. The fact that she allowed an unauthorized person (doesn't matter if it was her spouse) into the building and he committed a crime is likely grounds for immediate termination.

I wanted to add that we are in a phenominal district. It's worth every penny we pay in property taxes. Our teachers and admin are amazing.
 

Our principal would have had the police called, I'm sure. He's always got the children in the front of his mind.
 
OMG!!!!! I just read through this entire thread, and read the original post and updates to my DH! He's mad as a hornet and it's not even his kids!

After reading your last update, I got to the part about the Miranda Rights and my DH is yelling "That's right! Arrest him!"

I'm telling you sweetie, your DH must have the patience of an Angel. Mine would've been in jail, for reals.

You're doing the right thing. As a PP stated, your kids are watching you back them up. Nothing is more important than that. Not only have you reaffirmed their confidence in you, you have taught them how to back THEIR kids up. That's a good cycle to start!!!

I say fry his a**.
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glad you posted the update! Does this guy really think he's going to fool people and say "wasn't me"...

I remember a stand up comedian (maybe Eddie Murphy's *Raw*????), saying how men will just deny if they get caught coming out of another woman's house... it was so funny the way he was doing it... the girlfriend confronts him "I saw you coming out of so-and-so's house!", and the man just keeps repeating "wasn't me", until she believes him. (actually, it was more like "wadn't me")... it was hysterical! :rotfl: (please tell me someone else knows what I'm talking about)...

This sounds like this guy!
 
glad you posted the update! Does this guy really think he's going to fool people and say "wasn't me"...

I remember a stand up comedian (maybe Eddie Murphy's *Raw*????), saying how men will just deny if they get caught coming out of another woman's house... it was so funny the way he was doing it... the girlfriend confronts him "I saw you coming out of so-and-so's house!", and the man just keeps repeating "wasn't me", until she believes him. (actually, it was more like "wadn't me")... it was hysterical! :rotfl: (please tell me someone else knows what I'm talking about)...

This sounds like this guy!

LOL! I think that was either Murphy or Chris Rock.
 
I want to throw in my two cents and say you absolutely did the right thing by calling the police. The fact that he felt he could lay hands on a child and push him and cuss him and get in his face and shove him around is unreal!! And all this violent behavior because some pebbles were thrown at a window??? I don't care if your son had actually been the rock thrower (I know he was not) you still NEVER attack a child!!! Then he and the wife leave town, then he calls the police officer and is arrogant and denies any knowledge of wrong doing!!! I bet there is more to this piece of trash than this shoving incident. You absolutely did the right thing, you taught your children how to do the right thing and if by some miracle this is this guys first offense maybe he will learn a lesson. If he is the true creep I think he is I hope he is arrested. The school should be put on notice and keep this clown away from school property at the very least. Please keep us posted.
I hope your son recovers from the trauma of being physically assaulted.
 
Just read thru this thread! Some crazy stuff!
Sorry OP, what a crappy situation. Hope your kids a feeling better.:hug:
Glad you called the police too! That dude needs to go to jail for awhile!
 
I'm so sorry this happened to your kiddos. How are they now? Don't feel at all bad about calling the police, you absolutely did the right thing. When DS was about two, his teacher at daycare pulled him out of a playhouse by his hair then let him fall to the ground. This happened about a half hour before DH and I normally picked him up. The director called us right away and told us that she needed to speak to us when we got there, that there was an incident but that DS was fine. We both left work right way, by the time we got there DS was playing happily, not a mark on him. The director told u's what had happened, said she had fired the teacher, and if we wanted to call the police she would support us. We chose not to, and I regret that to this day. I think that will be one of my biggest regrets until the day I die.

You absolutely did the right thing calling the police, don't ever second guess yourself about that.
 
Another update- The officer came to my house to speak with my son, but told us this prior to speaking with my son:

The police officer went to the teachers home to speak with them. The teacher (the wife of this man) said he wouldn't be home until the next morning. Apparently he works evenings. Anyway, the officer asked her if she was willing to speak to him about the situation. She said she had no problem speaking with him.

The officer told us she said she and her husband were hanging a bulletin board on the wall closest to the windows. The windows were closed for the summer (maintenance does something so they can't be opened) so she couldn't yell down to them to stop throwing rocks. (The officer then asked her to describe the kids she saw...at which she identified 3 of the 4 kids total who were present. She wasn't able to identify my daughter other than saying a little girl but DID identify the 3 boys by name as apparently she has subbed at the school before.) She stated that she saw all 3 boys throwing rocks. She said she told her husband to go down and tell them to stop because she couldn't open the window.

She said she didn't see anything, but that her husband came back to the room and she asked him what happened. He said "I asked them who was throwing rocks and (my son) said he didn't do it and tried to walk away so I grabbed his arm and said "Don't walk away from me when I'm talking to you". I told him to knock it off because I saw him do it..." at which the officer told her he needed to advise her she has now incriminated her husband so she needed to be aware of this before she spoke anymore. She said "ok" and then said her husband said "I probably shouldn't have grabbed his arm like I did but I wanted him to listen to me...next time I should just let them break the window!" She then asked the officer what exactly would happen with charges etc. and he told her it all depended on how (sorry, can't remember the state title of the person) decided to proceed based on the statements and possible charges that were incurred.

He then sat at our kitchen table with my son and took a recorded statement of exactly what happened. He asked my son to describe the man in question, had him explain in great detail exactly what was said to him, how he grabbed him etc. When he got finished describing the assault the officer then asked him if anything else happened. My son then began to tell about how the man made the inappropriate gesture to him and my daughter but he couldn't even talk about it....he broke down in tears.:sad2::sad2: He didn't even want to talk about it. The officer told him it was ok to cry, and take a few breaths, and try to tell him the best he could. He said "he grabbed his privates" and said "whatever you little punk...do it again and next time I'll kick your (insert explicit word)!"

My husband had to leave the room he was so mad. The officer shut the recorder off and said "I'm so sorry young man this happened to you...I want you to know that this is NOT ok, and you did a great job telling me what happened. Now don't worry, your parents and the police will take care of it from here." The officer actually had tears in his eyes.:sad1:

We sent my son outside to play. We then talked to the officer a bit and he basically said "this guy apparently has never had HIS (insert explicit word) kicked, but I sure wish I could". ;) We all agree that what it sounds like is a situation of him knowing an 11 year old simply can't fight back, nor SHOULD they ever have to...so he decided to "punk out" (as the officer said it) an 11 year old to play tough guy against someone with no fighting chance of winning.

They are now going to get statements written up by the other witnesses and then take it all back to... (is it a prosecuting attorney???) or whomever decides what charges are to be filed.

I'll keep everyone posted! Thanks so much for sticking this out with me I appreciate all of the support!:hug:
 
Holy crap. I am so glad you decided to pursue this criminally.

I hope that teacher decides never to procreate with this winner.



As an aside, your son sounds really traumatized, and it turns out he was also sexually assaulted. Have you thought about getting him and your daughter into some short term counseling?
 
Holy crap. I am so glad you decided to pursue this criminally.

I hope that teacher decides never to procreate with this winner.



As an aside, your son sounds really traumatized, and it turns out he was also sexually assaulted. Have you thought about getting him and your daughter into some short term counseling?

I read this as the man grabbed his own **bleep** not the child's. If he grabbed the child... this is a whole new ball of wax.
 
Just curious...(not that he had any right even if they did throw the rocks)...but it seems like the teacher said that she saw your son (and called him by name) and another little girl (your daughter) throwing rocks...were your kids throwing rocks or was she just throwing this in there to help cover for her husband...

Also wondering...if I could see kids throwing rocks and sent hubby down to tell them to stop I would have watched from the window to see what the kids did...wont most people...so I would think she saw the entire thing...

Oh and now the police totally have him in lying when he said he wasnt at the school but out of town...
 
Just curious...(not that he had any right even if they did throw the rocks)...but it seems like the teacher said that she saw your son (and called him by name) and another little girl (your daughter) throwing rocks...were your kids throwing rocks or was she just throwing this in there to help cover for her husband...

Also wondering...if I could see kids throwing rocks and sent hubby down to tell them to stop I would have watched from the window to see what the kids did...wont most people...so I would think she saw the entire thing...

Oh and now the police totally have him in lying when he said he wasnt at the school but out of town...

See, I don't believe that for a second. If she was a teacher, why would she send a non-staff member to address a discipline issue with students of the school? Seems unlikely. I think he got the OP's son's name from the police report, and then fed the story to his wife, and she's covering for him.

mermaid02, that makes more sense....so he's just a class-A, vulgar, abusive, lying creep and not necessarily a child molester. His mum must be so proud!
 


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