What percentage of theme park guests stay on-site

[CandleontheWater]

I'm curious if anyone knows the percentage breakdown of on-site vs. off-site guests when it comes to theme park attendance.

I'm imagining it is less than half, but I'm curious.

 

[Q-man]

I'm imagining it is less than half, but I'm curious.

That would be my guess too. There are ~25K on property rooms.

 

[Disneyland_emily]

I did the math a few months ago using the reported theme park attendance #s and reported occupancy % and the rough math was about 35-40% (depending on how generously you round and estimate #s since I wasnt sure if the occ % used # of people in room vs just room occupied)

So While its a chunk of people there are more guests per year that will be 'disadvantaged' over MM- than 'advantaged'..

-em

 

[nugov2]

I would agree with the above. For sure less than half. That is why if WDW doesn't offer just a good of a deal for off site they will lose big time. I am not cramming my family into an on site hotel to get 3 whole FP+. At least universal offers you a FP to every ride if you stay on site, that is a deal. I would stay on site in 2 rooms for a couple of nights while I enjoyed Universal and then go back to our house after. 3 is nothing that would get me wanting to give up my space of off site. I wouldn't pay to stay in a hotel for a few nights to go to WDW for 3 whole FP and I wouldn't go to WDW if they take away the other FP option without offering something really good in place of them. WDW is way too crowded to enjoy without something to give you an advantage(maybe MB will be the magic solution, but not seeing it).

We were off site, booked everything we wanted to for dinning even the hard to get, used our FP wisely and rode everything. Many headliners multiple times. If that changes then our money will go else where. Why would I pay $400 for my family to stand in line all day when I can go down the street and not stand in line and have just as much fun, actually more because we are riding things not standing in line. We are not a WDW every year family...too much else out there, but I would like to go every 5 or 6 years. We just went in June, so I imagine the bugs will be worked out by the time we head back in 2018...at least I hope! If not, well I love WDW, but not enough to waste money at a park that is over crowded and no longer fun b/c the lines are too long. I do think they will find a way to make this work for all visitors though, it just may take a year to get it working.

 

[kathy884]

I was really curious and it sure looks you are all in the ballpark. I grabbed some web data, made a few assumptions (which could be off for sure), and did some rough calculations.

Annual Attendance at parks (4) and waterparks (2) for 2012 : 17,536,000 + 11,063,000 + 9,998,000 + 9,912,000 + 2,100,000 + 1,929,000 = 52,538,000 // To get per day attendance divide by 365 and you have 143,940Ok We don’t have Disneyquest, some people go to more than one park in a day, and some people onsite take days off to relax or do non-Disney things, but maybe a rough idea of people at a Disney theme park.

There are 30,405 onsite rooms per the unofficial guide. Let’s just go with a US average occupancy rate of 70% and assume onsite guests average one park a day. I'll also make an assumption of three guests per room (lots of families, but couples and solo guests too) // Estimate for onsite guests at a theme park = 68,851 (30,404 * .7 * 3)

So maybe about 44% of the guests are onsite (68,851/143,940) Wow! That’s a lot. As an offsite guest typically I would have never guessed it. But they definitely do have a lot of resorts.

 

[ArwenMarie]

I was really curious and it sure looks you are all in the ballpark. I grabbed some web data, made a few assumptions (which could be off for sure), and did some rough calculations.

Annual Attendance at parks (4) and waterparks (2) for 2012 : 17,536,000 + 11,063,000 + 9,998,000 + 9,912,000 + 2,100,000 + 1,929,000 = 52,538,000 // To get per day attendance divide by 365 and you have 143,940Ok We don’t have Disneyquest, some people go to more than one park in a day, and some people onsite take days off to relax or do non-Disney things, but maybe a rough idea of people at a Disney theme park.

There are 30,405 onsite rooms per the unofficial guide. Let’s just go with a US average occupancy rate of 70% and assume onsite guests average one park a day. I'll also make an assumption of three guests per room (lots of families, but couples and solo guests too) // Estimate for onsite guests at a theme park = 68,851 (30,404 * .7 * 3)

So maybe about 44% of the guests are onsite (68,851/143,940) Wow! That’s a lot. As an offsite guest typically I would have never guessed it. But they definitely do have a lot of resorts.

Love numbers!

Wouldn't you need to put a huge correction factor on the park attendance numbers, since most visitors I would think see at least 3 parks per trip?

ETA: Never mind! It's only park hoppers that would add to the numbers, and that would a lot smaller.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

I did the math a few months ago using the reported theme park attendance #s and reported occupancy % and the rough math was about 35-40% (depending on how generously you round and estimate #s since I wasnt sure if the occ % used # of people in room vs just room occupied)

So While its a chunk of people there are more guests per year that will be 'disadvantaged' over MM- than 'advantaged'..
-em

Your factual information to prove this?

AKK

 

[beer dave]

I was really curious and it sure looks you are all in the ballpark. I grabbed some web data, made a few assumptions (which could be off for sure), and did some rough calculations.

Annual Attendance at parks (4) and waterparks (2) for 2012 : 17,536,000 + 11,063,000 + 9,998,000 + 9,912,000 + 2,100,000 + 1,929,000 = 52,538,000 // To get per day attendance divide by 365 and you have 143,940Ok We don’t have Disneyquest, some people go to more than one park in a day, and some people onsite take days off to relax or do non-Disney things, but maybe a rough idea of people at a Disney theme park.

There are 30,405 onsite rooms per the unofficial guide. Let’s just go with a US average occupancy rate of 70% and assume onsite guests average one park a day. I'll also make an assumption of three guests per room (lots of families, but couples and solo guests too) // Estimate for onsite guests at a theme park = 68,851 (30,404 * .7 * 3)

So maybe about 44% of the guests are onsite (68,851/143,940) Wow! That’s a lot. As an offsite guest typically I would have never guessed it. But they definitely do have a lot of resorts.

Thanks-- I always wondered-- I did feel it was at least 50 %. I think that disney has a higher occupancy rate than 70 %, and I think 3.5 might be a safer room occupancy estimate-- but just my opinion. Thanks

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

I was really curious and it sure looks you are all in the ballpark. I grabbed some web data, made a few assumptions (which could be off for sure), and did some rough calculations.

Annual Attendance at parks (4) and waterparks (2) for 2012 : 17,536,000 + 11,063,000 + 9,998,000 + 9,912,000 + 2,100,000 + 1,929,000 = 52,538,000 // To get per day attendance divide by 365 and you have 143,940Ok We don’t have Disneyquest, some people go to more than one park in a day, and some people onsite take days off to relax or do non-Disney things, but maybe a rough idea of people at a Disney theme park.

There are 30,405 onsite rooms per the unofficial guide. Let’s just go with a US average occupancy rate of 70% and assume onsite guests average one park a day. I'll also make an assumption of three guests per room (lots of families, but couples and solo guests too) // Estimate for onsite guests at a theme park = 68,851 (30,404 * .7 * 3)

So maybe about 44% of the guests are onsite (68,851/143,940) Wow! That’s a lot. As an offsite guest typically I would have never guessed it. But they definitely do have a lot of resorts.

You have to take into account that the rooms are pretty close to sold out 3 months of the summer, a month around Christmas and Easter and the Thanksgiving week, ??

AKK