What is people's problem with kids?

[blondeheroine]

Kids are going to lose their minds in a place like Disney

Not all of them. I've seen some amazingly well behaved, sweet kids at Disney. I've seen the opposite, too. It all depends on what the kids has learned BEFORE they come to Disney.

There's a photo my mother has of me standing to the side of a character with my autograph book in hand while all the other kids mauled him (this was before CAs and lines). And always - ALWAYS - the character would see me standing to the side waiting my turn politely and come to me and really give me the best attention of all those kids. At first it was doing what my mother told me to do. Later, I realized that by being the kid that didn't push and shove, I got way more than the kid who pushed and shoved.

No kid - no person - is an angel. We all have our poopypants moments, but I don't think all kids lose their minds in Disney.

 

[TDC Nala]

My family's going to Ohana in August precisely so my niece and nephews can run around the place if they want.

But I'd bet if they start throwing food or something that my brother will take them outside for a lecture.

 

[dyna]

It's usually the parents fault how the kids act it's not just at disney it's EVERYWHERE!!!

A few years ago we was at 1 of the parks left for our afternoon break and got on the bus a mom told her 2 yr old to sit by DH because the 2 yr old had a bag of cotton candy an the mom didn't want her own kid sitting next to her as she told the kid she didn't want to get all sticky. GUESS WHAT neither did DH. The 2 yr old did end up on mommys lap but it was not the most pleasant bus ride back to the resort we ever had but least DH didn't go back all sticky.

HMMMMM wonder why my 2 yr olds didn't get their own bag of cotton candy to drag around? Smear all over everything and everyone they touched EWWWWWWWw I'm sure most parents LOVE that esp when it not even their own brat.

OH don't get me wrong I LOVE KIDS there just some I don't like including my own at times. My own didn't go to disney till they was well on their way to being little ppl instead of babies that knew no better than to throw temper tantrums in public. They knew how to wait their turn etc and be mannerly. NO they was not perfect but they knew if they didn't follow the rules we would go back to the hotel an they could sit on their bed for the day and do nothing.

Now that the Gbabies has started arriving I do plan on taking each one to disney just before they turn 3 for their 1st hair cut but it will be a very short trip and yes I'll drive 900 miles for a hair cut and a morning at the MK in Fantasyland with an afternoon break and it depends on how the kid does after the break as to if we return back to the park that day or not. The 2nd day is goin to be spent at the hotel resting with maybe a couple short swims ect the 3rd day back to the park for the AM then home.

We'll take them back when they 6 or 7 big enough to do most anything we want to do in the parks and remember most of the visit.

 

[luvthemouse71]

DJ Disney Kid-you are one brave soul. I don't hate kids. I'm annoyed by the bratty ones, and I DO hate the parents of bratty children. You know, the types who claim their child isn't a brat, they're just "spirited" Sorry, "spirited" is just PC mumbo-jumbo for spoiled rotten brat. You can't really blame the kids at all-they're kinda like puppies, if you don't do a good job early on, you have years of dealing with bad behavior.

Oh, the squeaky belt story is too funny! I bet half the time he didn't even need to use it. I imagine that all a kid would have to do do is hear the squeaky sound, and they'd straighten up right quick.

 

[Lynne M]

"Child haters?"

Oh, please. What a ridiculous thing to say. Thoroughly offensive and insulting. And really disappointing to see fellow DISers stoop to that kind of an accusation.

To make the absurd generalization that anyone who complains about an instance of bad behavior is a 'child hater'.....or that anyone who doesn't have children and doesn't choose to spend a lot of time around them is a 'child hater'......

I'm just speechless. Moving on to another thread now.

 

[tony609]

"Child haters?"

Oh, please. What a ridiculous thing to say. Thoroughly offensive and insulting. And really disappointing to see fellow DISers stoop to that kind of an accusation.

To make the absurd generalization that anyone who complains about an instance of bad behavior is a 'child hater'.....or that anyone who doesn't have children and doesn't choose to spend a lot of time around them is a 'child hater'......

I'm just speechless. Moving on to another thread now.

Well said..............

 

[blondeheroine]

"Child haters?"

Oh, please. What a ridiculous thing to say. Thoroughly offensive and insulting. And really disappointing to see fellow DISers stoop to that kind of an accusation.

To make the absurd generalization that anyone who complains about an instance of bad behavior is a 'child hater'.....or that anyone who doesn't have children and doesn't choose to spend a lot of time around them is a 'child hater'......

I'm just speechless. Moving on to another thread now.

You rock.

 

[Hixski]

"Child haters?"

Oh, please. What a ridiculous thing to say. Thoroughly offensive and insulting. And really disappointing to see fellow DISers stoop to that kind of an accusation.

To make the absurd generalization that anyone who complains about an instance of bad behavior is a 'child hater'.....or that anyone who doesn't have children and doesn't choose to spend a lot of time around them is a 'child hater'......

I'm just speechless. Moving on to another thread now.

I was trying earlier to be PC but I gave up. Thanks for just putting it out there. I wonder how the people on this thread would feel if they knew that some people think all (or most) childfree people are child haters. You can't assume why anyone is childfree.
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1315669

 

[Mkrop]

Yes, but the difference is that if I behaved the way I have seen some of these kids behave, I wouldn't have seen the light of day for a looonnng time. My parents would NEVER have tolerated disrespect. Nor would they have let me run willy nilly around a restaurant while they enjoyed their dinner.

I agree I had a certain behavior that was expected of me and I certainly expect behavior from my sons. I guess I should have explained more: I walked into the a conversation at work and 2 or so coworkers were really bashing kids. And it was the bad behavior that was in question, so we dialogue back and forth and I was trying not to get defensive. But then the conversation took and ugly turn and one quote was, "I wish kids didnt exist", "cant you people keep your kids at home so I can enjoy my meal", so still calmly I asked what type of restaurant are you referring, they said TGIFridays , I just laughed and said you have to be kidding me those are FAMILY restuarants. So that is when I commented about "you were a kid one too" and walked away. I cant type the whole conversation, too long but there was an ugly antikid tone throughout that chilled me to the bone and I never looked at coowrker the same way.

For another poster, I certainly do not catergorize every childess person as antikids, there are many loving aunts, uncle, teachers, bus drivers, etc who have a very good idea how to handle kids but I also think (at least IMHO) that maybe what many dont get is the 24/7 responsibilty we have. My mom always comments on why she loves ebing a grandparent, she can have the fun of taking cre of them, but she gets to give them BACK!

 

[Mrs. D]

"Child haters?"

Oh, please. What a ridiculous thing to say. Thoroughly offensive and insulting. And really disappointing to see fellow DISers stoop to that kind of an accusation.

To make the absurd generalization that anyone who complains about an instance of bad behavior is a 'child hater'.....or that anyone who doesn't have children and doesn't choose to spend a lot of time around them is a 'child hater'......

I'm just speechless. Moving on to another thread now.

1 person has definitvely said they hate kids...maybe you didn't read that far...others have said they dislike them...in general...maybe you didn't read that far.

 

[PamNC]

but I'll have to say that while at Disney, some of them get on my nerves!! I remember one time we were there during Thanksgiving and were trying to have T-Day dinner at the Yacht Club Galley. Kids were running around through the tables screaming and yelling and the parents didn't seem to care. Some people's parenting skills, or lack thereof, amaze me. My parents would never have let me behave in such a manner. Teenagers bug me - they can be loud and rude and downright pathetic. I've been in line with teenagers cussing and carrying on. My DH took care of that problem.

All that said, some kids are adorable and cute and Disney is certainly a kid-friendly place (goes without saying) so I know when I go that I'm going to encounter tons of them. And most of the time, that is just fine with me...they kind of add to the magic. I like to see their faces light up, even though they aren't my kids.

Would it be nice if there was an adults only weekend at Disney? HECK YES - I'd be there with bells on.

PamNC

 

[PamNC]

I don't mind kids, I actually really like kids. I just don't like it when people assume I have no business being at WDW because I don't have kids. Last time I was at DL a woman actually got her 7-8 year old daughter to push in front of me, and then stood next to me so they could both have front row seats. Would it have been that hard for her to have her DD stand in front of her? And then on top of that, she shoved her video camera in front of my face, so not only did she have a front row seat, as well as her daughter, her view wasn't blocked by her video camera. Things like that bug me.

I just had to post again when I read this comment. I totally agree. Sometimes it feels like people with kids feel they and their kids deserve better treatment than us childless couples. They'll stand right in front of you to view fireworks and shows and then put their child on their shoulders. That drives me nuts. We're just supposed to "put up with it" because they are kids. Or in line they step all over your feet and the parents do nothing about it.

PamNC

 

[Lynne M]

1 person has definitvely said they hate kids...maybe you didn't read that far...others have said they dislike them...in general...maybe you didn't read that far.

Sorry, I believe you misunderstood my post. I was referring to some of the posts talking about the 'child haters' on this board. Read the first page, you'll see what I meant.

 

[peggyjean123]

I am a montessori teacher, and let me tell you exposure is the key! Some parents won't take their children to ballets or nice places becasuse they are afriad they will act up. If you set your expectations high, a lot of the time they will preform to expectations! Don't get me wrong I have some parents who give into their child way too often, that is setting those children up for failure. Your need to stand firm and set expectations high! I know many 4 year olds in my class are beginning to read, not because I said your not ready for that, but because I exposed them to the lessons and let nature take course. Remember model, if you want your children to behave; you need to be guide! Also, for those of you who do not have kids, guess what the previous writer is right; we all have our moments, don't judge!

 

[Mischa]

I will be honest and say I did not read ALL the comments on this thread. The ones I did read I agree with; my dh & I don't hate kids, we dislike the parents who let their kids run wild and then begin to hate the parents when they continue to allow their kids to run wild.

I usually don't say anything to kids about running wild because they are not my kids and I feel it's the parents' job to control/teach/discipline their kids. But one time while at Disney a child was kicking my chair continuously and I asked the child to stop, the mom of this child told me not to "discipline" her child. I was a bit taken back because I wasn't disciplining the kid I was merely asking it to stop kicking my chair (same way I would ask an adult to stop doing whatever). Anyway, I had noticed that there was no one sitting behind mom so I got up and went to sit behind her and began kicking her chair. She turned around and yelled at me to stop kicking her chair. I smiled and said "well, I figured you must like it because your kid keeps doing that to MY chair and all I had asked was for him to stop." She turned about 5 shades of red and then made the kid stop kicking my chair (when I returned to my chair).

Someone said something about "kids loose their heads at Disney" I think it's the parents that loose their heads. Just my opinion!

I just had to post again when I read this comment. I totally agree. Sometimes it feels like people with kids feel they and their kids deserve better treatment than us childless couples. They'll stand right in front of you to view fireworks and shows and then put their child on their shoulders. That drives me nuts. We're just supposed to "put up with it" because they are kids. Or in line they step all over your feet and the parents do nothing about it.

PamNC

Absolutely! that really irks me! If I've waited in place for 1/2 hour or an hour or whatever, why should someone's kid be allowed to just get in front of me? That has happened to me several times at Disney and it's not fair - just because I don't have kids doesn't mean I am a second class citizen or something! Last December while at WDW and waiting for the parade to begin...I had this family with 3 kids come over to where I had been sitting on the curb and waiting for 1/2 hour and try to push me out of the way so that they could all fit on the curb. I moved a bit but then I was actually pushed off the curb! I said to the mother (the father just turned his head) and said - "excuse me but I have been sitting here for over 1/2 hour." And the mom said "well the parade is for kids" I lost it and said, "how do you know if I have kids or not? The parade is for everyone and you have no right to push me out of the way." The father was nice enough to pick up one of the kids and make her sit on his lap so I could sit down.

I was trying earlier to be PC but I gave up. Thanks for just putting it out there. I wonder how the people on this thread would feel if they knew that some people think all (or most) childfree people are child haters. You can't assume why anyone is childfree.
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1315669

For the record...I don't hate kids - DH & I tried for over 10 years to have kids and can't. But is it too much to ask that parents actually take care of their kids? But gee that would make them RESPONSIBLE!

Just my 2 cents!

 

[ktink]

I'm a parent and of course love kids. I've seen many well behaved children at WDW and several that don't know how to act. I think that goes back to the parents. I have tried to raise my children to respect others. My kids are kids and aren't perfect by any stretch of the imagination however they know how they are expected to behave in public. Sure they have an occasional melt down after all they're human too. Everyone has good and bad days but there is a difference between that and just misbehaving.

I can see how someone who doesn't have children could be very upset w/ bad parenting as it upsets me. But one thing you need to remember is kids act by example and by what they are allowed to think is acceptable.

 

[dbmarie]

Anyway, I had noticed that there was no one sitting behind mom so I got up and went to sit behind her and began kicking her chair. She turned around and yelled at me to stop kicking her chair. I smiled and said "well, I figured you must like it because your kid keeps doing that to MY chair and all I had asked was for him to stop."

So let me get this right you modeled unacceptable behavior in front of a child. Wow you sure accomplished something that day . First off I absolutely think a parent should do something when a child misbehaves but your behavior was totally unacceptable. Grow up you are a perfect example of a grown adult acting liking a child who isn't getting their way.

 

[Princess Stitch]

So let me get this right you modeled unacceptable behavior in front of a child. Wow you sure accomplished something that day . First off I absolutely think a parent should do something when a child misbehaves but your behavior was totally unacceptable. Grow up you are a perfect example of a grown adult acting liking a child who isn't getting their way.

Are you kidding me? The lady was having her chair kicked by a kid. She turned around and asked the kid, politely it sounds like, to stop kicking her chair. The mom got all snarky and let the kid keep doing it, so she gave her a taste of her own medicine. What else did you want the lady to do? Sit there getting kicked the whole time?

 

[mwoody1967]

I have seen more and more threads on here lately (and other boards) about how horrible kids are and there should be "adult only" areas in places obviously geered to kids or families. What is the deal? Why do some people hate kids so much?

The kids are not the problem. It is the mindless parents of the kids that are the problem. Kids will be kids, but parents need to be parents, and teach kids that sometimes kids can't be kids, and that is where the breakdown is. I love kids. I have two of them myself and was even one myself a number of years ago. Now I love being a parent and want to teach my kids how to behave so they can become good parents and teach there kids how to behave so they can teach their kids...............and so goes the circle of life.

 

[Hannathy]

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But one time while at Disney a child was kicking my chair continuously and I asked the child to stop, the mom of this child told me not to "discipline" her child. I was a bit taken back because I wasn't disciplining the kid I was merely asking it to stop kicking my chair (same way I would ask an adult to stop doing whatever). Anyway, I had noticed that there was no one sitting behind mom so I got up and went to sit behind her and began kicking her chair. She turned around and yelled at me to stop kicking her chair. I smiled and said "well, I figured you must like it because your kid keeps doing that to

Oh I love it!!!! Good for you because as the saying goes what's good for the gander is good for the goose. What a wonderful learning experience for the mother.

There was a thread a long time ago about a couple who thought they were perfectly right to allow their kid to scream bloody murder while they sat there and ate because "they had to eat to, and no they didn't want to be inconvenienced by one eating and the other removing the child and then reversing it" so they just ruined everyone else's meal but hey ME,ME, ME.

I don't hate kids BUT I used to like them a lot more years ago.