What Happened to EPCOT?

[Dan Murphy]

The bottom line on this is that it is the bottom line......$$$$$$$

 

[mom4fun]

This is just another example of a societal problem. It's everywhere, more and more functional alcoholics. People, did you know that it's possible to have fun without alcohol?

 

[larryz]

It's everywhere, more and more functional alcoholics.

Apparently, you and I have different meanings for that word...

 

[nduckles]

OP, I agree. I don't like being in World Showcase after a certain time anymore, especially if my kids are with us. I imagine the heat and humidity and dehydration doesn't help either.

Unfortunately, like many things in life, something bad will probably have to happen before they step up and change things.

Yeah, not to make excuses for them, but I do think that for a lot of people it sneaks up on them with the heat, humidity, and not having a sit down meal. I imagine that it's hard for the CM's to make a call regarding someone a little happy, a little tipsy, pretty tipsy, and flat-out drunk.

 

[wdw4rfam]

We did F&W his year and saw similar behavior. Enough that we will probably never do it again.

 

[TwinPrincessMermaids]

We didn't see any overly drunk people for SWW ourselves. BUT I will say that Disney put up a hard booze mixing stand about every 40 ft advertising Alderaan Sunrises and Tattoine This or That with a light up Millennium Falcon on the cup for $13.50 a pop. All these lit up red, blue and green drinks were walking around everywhere. It was the most prominent hard liquor sales tactic I have seen, probably because they knew they were getting more the Comicon crowd. It was obvious they were looking to sell as much booze as they could. I realize it's not EP, but it does appear to be a Disney trend. Big sales!

 

[Dan Murphy]

This is just another example of a societal problem. It's everywhere, more and more functional alcoholics. People, did you know that it's possible to have fun without alcohol?

Apparently, you and I have different meanings for that word...

I agree. Hard to be functional if drunk.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

Haven't you read the "Worst advice you got" thread?

From reading it, the situation appears that nobody should follow the advice given on this board, anyway,
so that can't be it.

There is always going to be that one person that went once in September that now thinks they're an expert that says don't bother with rope drop to the person going during spring break. We just have to hope people can distinguish between advice that is well thought out and that which isn't. At least we're beyond the days where there were tons of posts where the only advice given for any subject was sign up for tour guide mike.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

We didn't see any overly drunk people for SWW ourselves. BUT I will say that Disney put up a hard booze mixing stand about every 40 ft advertising Alderaan Sunrises and Tattoine This or That with a light up Millennium Falcon on the cup for $13.50 a pop. All these lit up red, blue and green drinks were walking around everywhere. It was the most prominent hard liquor sales tactic I have seen, probably because they knew they were getting more the Comicon crowd. It was obvious they were looking to sell as much booze as they could. I realize it's not EP, but it does appear to be a Disney trend. Big sales!

Well when they first made DCA, they were pretty much attempting to put in just enough attractions to sell a bunch of booze. And well it flopped badly.

 

[Planogirl]

I don't think that everyone who overindulges once is an alcoholic. Sometimes you are just having fun and go beyond your limits. Some people have pretty low limits too.

I do agree that this is all about money but then isn't it always?

 

[flicx]

I don't think that everyone who overindulges once is an alcoholic. Sometimes you are just having fun and go beyond your limits. Some people have pretty low limits too.

I do agree that this is all about money but then isn't it always?

It should never be all about the money several other things should factor in. However this group of people currently running Disney world seem oblivious to the little things that Disney did in the past that separated them from everyone else. I agree with you plano it will really get interesting when you put a frozen attraction, which is primarily a younger kid draw into the middle of where the drink around the tour goes on!

 

[Robo]

Iit will really get interesting when you put a frozen attraction, which is primarily a younger kid draw into the middle of where the drink around the tour goes on!

Meet 'n Drink with Annnnnaaaa and Elsshhhhhia.

'Hic'

 

[BeerMe]

Rocky is my favorite by far

 

[parkluvr]

I don't really think that alcohol is the underlying problem here. It seems that overall in our society people are just rapidly forgetting how to behave in public and forgetting or not being taught manners. Even in places where alcohol is not present it seems that people just do not know how to behave any more. You go to your local movie house to catch a movie and more often than not you have somebody who is texting or talking out loud or being obnoxious. I've been going to WDW since 1972 when I was still in diapers. Even at the Magic Kingdom where there is very little alcohol available, every trip I see more and more people who act like it's the first time they've ever been in public.

 

[larryz]

At least we're beyond the days where there were tons of posts where the only advice given for any subject was sign up for tour guide mike.

And here's hoping we're beyond the days of "everything Disney does is wonderful, and if you don't like it, you're doing it wrong."

 

[chiefmickeymouse]

There is less to do at Epcot than there was a decade ago. Lots of empty closed buildings.

I was at Epcot in June and I heard a lot of people talking about drinking around the world. The park was only open until 9 that night, so I didn't see any really noticeable bad behavior. One thing I did notice was a lot of security wandering around. I myself had two drinks and I was done for the night. I don't see how anyone could make it around that entire loop in the heat. I heard one group talking about "training for drinking around the world", now there's a goal worthy of striving for!

 

[Dug720]

And here's hoping we're beyond the days of "everything Disney does is wonderful, and if you don't like it, you're doing it wrong."

Or "if you don't buy into everything Disney does you're not a true fan". Though clearly that line of thinking isn't changing any time soon.

 

[Fizban]

Meet 'n Drink with Annnnnaaaa and Elsshhhhhia.

'Hic'

Robo you actually made me Laugh out Loud. My wife just asked my what I was giggling about. Good on ya!

 

[Fizban]

There is less to do at Epcot than there was a decade ago. Lots of empty closed buildings.

I was at Epcot in June and I heard a lot of people talking about drinking around the world. The park was only open until 9 that night, so I didn't see any really noticeable bad behavior. One thing I did notice was a lot of security wandering around. I myself had two drinks and I was done for the night. I don't see how anyone could make it around that entire loop in the heat. I heard one group talking about "training for drinking around the world", now there's a goal worthy of striving for!

I dont know that I agree with you or if you are channeling HS about the closures, but I will support your comment as far as when they (sorry gang soap box time) TURNED NORWAY INTO A FANTASY ELSA AND WHOEVER MEET AND GREET, (off soap box now) they did lower the whole theme of the Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow into meh'ville.

Long live the Maelstrom!

 

[Robo]

they did lower the whole theme of the Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow...

Epcot, (or EPCOT Center,) the WDW theme park, has never been that.