What do you think of Miley Cyrus' new video - Party in the USA?

[bdiddy]

Also, how many of your daughter's or nieces dance on top of cars and ice cream carts with poles on them?

I'm sorry but this made me giggle. Of course they don't.....they aren't pop stars in a music video.

 

[Tiger926]

The title of this thread is "what do you think...." I took this to mean that the OP wanted opinions. Obviously we have a range of those here.

Please don't call me judgmental then go ahead and "judge" my opinion. I have every right to feel the way I do -- the same as you. I think that skimpy clothes are inappropriate for any age. Just because so many 16-17 year old girls dress that way doesn't make it right or okay.

I will disagree with you as to what age group HM marketed to. The powers that be wanted little girls to follow her as fans. Otherwise, there would not have been merchandise in those sizes and for those ages. (dress up wigs/costumes, toys, clothes, etc.)

I am sorry that my opinion was confusing. I believe that our young girls are being highly sexualized by the media. I am doing my best to raise a daughter who dresses and acts modestly and that includes not allowing bikinis or dancing with an ice cream cart pole. At this age, yes, I do "ban" things. And she can learn from things being banned. But if and when she asks why, we will have a discussion about my reasons. Hopefully, by the time she is able to make these decisions for herself, she will do the right thing and continue to dress and act modestly.

Whether or not you (in general) agree with my position, there are people out there who do. Many employers and even colleges have been checking peoples' MySpace and Facebook prior to hire/promotion/admission. Based up on pictures (that may show provocative dress or actions) and posts, young people are being denied that hire/promotion/admission. Appearances do matter and I don't think dressing in skimpy clothes and dancing inappropriately make for a good impression.

I think Miley has been a good girl and I hope she continues! I worry about child stars and the awful track record so many have for disaster! I do not want to tear her down. But I am a mom first and she is quickly going down a path that I do not think is appropriate for my daughter to view or want to mimic. As such, the older "Miley" is greatly censored at our home.

Great post! I will never understand the line of thinking that proclaims it is ok to accept something because so many people do it. I do not care if every 16 year old dressed like Miley, my DD would not be! I have this same problem with my highschool students, and it makes it great when the ones who do not dress like this, are confident and sure of themselves as it shows the other girls that they do not have to sexualize everything. That is exactly what Miley is doing - as I said, I am an English teacher, so I analyzed this video as we would in Media class, and it is full of provocative images, sexualized messages and adult behaviour. No young girls I know dance on cars or ice cream carts - LOL! Also, take a look at how she holds the microphone, stares into the camera, and dances both with her dancers and by herself. Nothing happens by accident in the media at all - it is a well crafted adult video that was made to sell Miley to adult audiences.

It is so interesting to see everyone`s opinions - as a mom and a teacher I really appreciate seeing other people`s views on this!

Tiger

 

[turkeymama]

It just disapoints me. I was looking forward to having something fun and not "sex sells" for my girls. Its tough taking it away because it is inapprpriate. I don't care who you are. There is a whole demographic out there looking for good wholesome not hollywood type of entertainment. Too bad Miley decided she didn't want to be the one to stand out.

I agree that there is a whole demographic looking for good wholesome entertainment, but let's face it. Good and wholesome doesn't sell. Miley is getting too old for Hannah and Disney will cut her loose sooner or later no matter how she markets herself. The same thing happened with Raven, The Cheetah Girls, Haylie Duff, Shia Leboeuf, and Christy Carlson Romano. As soon as they start growing up, Disney replaces them with someone younger. Not all of them will make it in the entertainment industry. I think Miley's days at Disney are numbered (due to her age), and I think she must know that too. She will no doubt market herself more and more to an older crowd.

 

[Caitsmama]

Hmmm...so some of you are saying that your 16 year olds show their lacy back bras or push up bras for all to see? Also, how many of your daughter's or nieces dance on top of cars and ice cream carts with poles on them?

I guess I'm not seeing how she is a "normal" 16 year old at all? Tiger

really, it's a music video, it's not meant to be reality - or to show what a "normal" 16 year old should be like.. no one said it was supposed to represent reality..
Again, who are we to judge this young girl's character? If we don't like it, we dont have to buy it, or watch it.. At the end of the day, if she is a good person, that's all that matters.

And where is Disney in all this? They obviously had seen it and approved it.. and chose to show it.

 

[Tiger926]

really, it's a music video, it's not meant to be reality - or to show what a "normal" 16 year old should be like.. no one said it was supposed to represent reality..
Again, who are we to judge this young girl's character? If we don't like it, we dont have to buy it, or watch it.. At the end of the day, if she is a good person, that's all that matters.

And where is Disney in all this? They obviously had seen it and approved it.. and chose to show it.

Did you read through all of the replies - several people said this is how their daughter`s dressed and acted. I disagree with that - if `real`kids don`t act this way, then that proves my point entirely. It`s not marketed to teens as this is NOT how most teens act.

Not once have I discussed her character or morals - you can`t do that based on outward appearances. Well, I don`t anyway. I am talking about how fast she has grown up and distanced herself from HM, yet she still plays HM. This is going to be confusing for many of the young girls who are fans.

RE: Disney. Of course Disney is going to approve it right now as she is bringing in the cash. She has done and said other questionable things, and Disney didn`t do much as she is making money. They probably already have their next child star lined up as Disney shows have a 4 year cycle and this is year 4 for HM. She`s on her way out as HM, and I don`t see her lasting long as Miley Cyrus, so only time will tell how her career plays out. It`s just sad to see her using sex to sell herself - that`s old and tired, as far as Ì`m concerned. The last few appearances I`ve seen of Miley, have been the same - jumping around on stage in very skimpy clothes. If she were that confident in her abilities, why not sing her song while sitting on a stool. Theatrics and stages full of dancers are not always necessary - some people just want to hear good old fashioned music. This, IMHO, separates the good from the bad and this is what will determine an artist`s staying power. Most people know Britney Spears is not a good singer, so she thrashes around on stage in order to cover that up - the new Miley reminds me very much of Britney, and I just don`t see that ending up well as Britney is pretty much good at showing her body, and that is about it. I just don`t think those are qualities that are going to make for a long-lasting music career.

Tiger

 

[Tiger926]

really, it's a music video, it's not meant to be reality - or to show what a "normal" 16 year old should be like.. no one said it was supposed to represent reality..
Again, who are we to judge this young girl's character? If we don't like it, we dont have to buy it, or watch it.. At the end of the day, if she is a good person, that's all that matters.

And where is Disney in all this? They obviously had seen it and approved it.. and chose to show it.

Did you read through all of the replies - several people said this is how their daughter`s dressed and acted. I disagree with that - if `real`kids don`t act this way, then that proves my point entirely. It`s not marketed to teens as this is NOT how most teens act.

Not once have I discussed her character or morals - you can`t do that based on outward appearances. Well, I don`t anyway. I am talking about how fast she has grown up and distanced herself from HM, yet she still plays HM. This is going to be confusing for many of the young girls who are fans.

RE: Disney. Of course Disney is going to approve it right now as she is bringing in the cash. She has done and said other questionable things, and Disney didn`t do much as she is making money. They probably already have their next child star lined up as Disney shows have a 4 year cycle and this is year 4 for HM. She`s on her way out as HM, and I don`t see her lasting long as Miley Cyrus, so only time will tell how her career plays out. It`s just sad to see her using sex to sell herself - that`s old and tired, as far as Ì`m concerned. Authentic artists don`t do what everyone else does...

Tiger

 

[Hannathy]

I guess I'm the only one around here old enough to remember Goldie Hawn dancing in a cage or on a platform in a very very short mini with sexy high heel boots on national TV during prime time on a little show called Laugh In! And that was about 40 years ago!!!! She also showed her gasp ! mid riff quite often.

I guess no one here was around for the 80's either with Madonna and Cyndi Lauper and bras and corsets on the outside of clothes or leggings and torn sweat shirts.

My goodness! girls have been dancing "provocatively" and scantily clothed since they have been dancing.

6 yr olds should not be watching Miley or Hannah actually. But for teens I don't think she has done a thing wrong and yes girls do dress like that in High Schools every day and it isn't just the "trashy" girls.

 

[momx2]

I guess I'm the only one around here old enough to remember Goldie Hawn dancing in a cage or on a platform in a very very short mini with sexy high heel boots on national TV during prime time on a little show called Laugh In! And that was about 40 years ago!!!! She also showed her gasp ! mid riff quite often.

I guess no one here was around for the 80's either with Madonna and Cyndi Lauper and bras and corsets on the outside of clothes or leggings and torn sweat shirts.

My goodness! girls have been dancing "provocatively" and scantily clothed since they have been dancing.

6 yr olds should not be watching Miley or Hannah actually. But for teens I don't think she has done a thing wrong and yes girls do dress like that in High Schools every day and it isn't just the "trashy" girls.

ITA! My problem is that some posters here think it's okay to question whether or not a young girl is trashy just because she wears short shorts. Sorry, I do think it is judgmental and yes I am judging that post and saying that IMO it is judgmental to think that.

When I was about 17 I had all types of clothes. I had church clothes, very modest dresses because in my church ladies were not permitted to wear pants. I had school clothes. I had normal casual clothes and SHOCK I had my going out with my girlfriend, cruising the mall, or dancing clothes. These clothes weren't short shorts, not in style, but short skirts, leather/suede pants, tight jeans, etc. Tanks weren't in style then. Now, I never danced on a car or ice cream truck or a pole. Wasn't out drunk or druggin', wasn't sleeping with boys, just out having fun. Of course, we were looking for guys, who isn't at that age, but not to shack up with.

I turned out okay and so did my friends. We are all now teachers, lawyers, SAHMs with kids of our own. None of us have been to rehab or have any problems of the sort to my knowledge. My point is...don't judge just because you don't like the clothes.

MC is not for young girls any longer! Isn't this the last season of HM???

 

[Caitsmama]

Well said to the 2 above posters!!!

This has been the way it is for YEARS.. Miley is not doing anything new, or anything shocking here.. I can't even believe what a fuss this is all made out for.. lol..

It just comes down to basics -- if you don't agree/approve of the video/music -- then don't let your child watch. period.
That's really all there is to it folks!!

 

[MissyDVC]

She is hardly a child, she is almost 17 and I wouldn't expect her to be "Hannah Montana" since that is only a character she plays. She looks totally adorable, and very much like a 17 year old and how they dress today. and I love her video. I didn't think she was doing anything inappropriate at all. My dd has it on her ipod, its one of her faves.

I think too many people think of her as her character HM and expect her not to grow up and be her own person.

I'm with you

 

[Goofy'slady]

I've only seen the video once and I saw nothing wrong with it. However, the moment I saw it I knew other parents would claiming she was turning into another Britney (I don't agree). My girls are 11 & 4 and I don't have a problem with them watching this video at all. My girls could careless what she and the other dancers were wearing in the video because they know that if I don't approve of it they won't ever have to worry if I'll buy them clothes to resemble them. And yes, my girls are way to young to wear clothes like that - but like the old saying goes "clothes don't make the man". It's a video - I don't think Miley dresses like that every single day. You people have to realize this is for a VIDEO and the producers and directors have about 3mins to grab your child's attention. However, if your child can be swayed to wear trashy clothes and dance provocatively then it's not really Miley's fault. Yes, it's your responsibility - rather your job to let your kids know that is not behavior that you deem appropriate - it's not Miley's job to influence your kids it's yours.

 

[MissyDVC]

I've only seen the video once and I saw nothing wrong with it. However, the moment I saw it I knew other parents would claiming she was turning into another Britney (I don't agree). My girls are 11 & 4 and I don't have a problem with them watching this video at all. My girls could careless what she and the other dancers were wearing in the video because they know that if I don't approve of it they won't ever have to worry if I'll buy them clothes to resemble them. And yes, my girls are way to young to wear clothes like that - but like the old saying goes "clothes don't make the man". It's a video - I don't think Miley dresses like that every single day. You people have to realize this is for a VIDEO and the producers and directors have about 3mins to grab your child's attention. However, if your child can be swayed to wear trashy clothes and dance provocatively then it's not really Miley's fault. Yes, it's your responsibility - rather your job to let your kids know that is not behavior that you deem appropriate - it's not Miley's job to influence your kids it's yours.

Well said!

 

[Colleen27]

Didn't we just have this debate over the Fly in the Wall video?

Just like then, I really don't get the big deal over this. Maybe it is because when I was a preteen, we were listening to Madonna and Cyndi Lauper, but nothing HM has done seems out of line. It isn't like she's another Brittany Spears, singing suggestive lyrics and going for fetish-appeal in her video wardrobe & props. She's a teenage girl, pushing the envelope fashion-wise like teenage girls are wont to do, and that's what videos are meant to appeal to - the teen fantasy of freedom to do things that their parents would never allow. It is the same basic principle as a show like Phinneus & Ferb - clueless or absent parents allowing the kids to have wild adventures - but for teens, those wild adventures are partying with friends, driving sports cars, wearing short shorts, dancing, etc. not building roller coasters or submarines.

 

[Caitsmama]

Goofy'slady & Colleen, WELL SAID.. exactly what i am getting at..

 

[mjkacmom]

Goofy'slady & Colleen, WELL SAID.. exactly what i am getting at..

I agree with you all - I remember dancing around to "like a virgin, touched for the very first time" as a teen! I also remember, in the late 70's, having to put shorts on under my micro mini, because the boys would pull it up (before skorts were invented). My dd13 has some short shorts, but nothing compared to mine, back in the day! And even her skinny pencil jeans are looser than my Calvins!

 

[Caitsmama]

And, when i look back to some of the "rap" music i listened to as a teen (snoop dog, bone, tupac, dr.dre..etc) i can't believe i knew all the words and acted so cool -- lol... however, i was smart enough to know the difference b/w the words in a song/or the style associated with it -- than to carry that over to my "real" life..

Course, now i can't even stand that music - so i laugh when i think back to my teen years... And yes, i also listened to Madonna, Cindy Lauper, etc... it's the same principle.. knowing what is for "show" and what is "reality"..

 

[Tiger926]

And, when i look back to some of the "rap" music i listened to as a teen (snoop dog, bone, tupac, dr.dre..etc) i can't believe i knew all the words and acted so cool -- lol... however, i was smart enough to know the difference b/w the words in a song/or the style associated with it -- than to carry that over to my "real" life..

Course, now i can't even stand that music - so i laugh when i think back to my teen years... And yes, i also listened to Madonna, Cindy Lauper, etc... it's the same principle.. knowing what is for "show" and what is "reality"..

For sure it's knowing about what is show and what is reality - I wasn't disputing that.

I have concerns because Miley is Hannah - she tours as Miley Cyrus AND Hannah Montana, so that will make for a very different concert experience for young girls in attendance. You can't expect parents to leave for part of the concert if they find it unacceptable...The video that we are discussing is a Miley Cyrus video, but, Miley also still has her HM persona, and this is where my concern is.

If Miley was just Miley, then that's all fine and dandy - she can prance around naked if that is what she and her parents deem acceptable. I won't allow my child to watch that...It's the Hannah Montana part that I take issue with. She still is that persona, and had no problems taking millions of dollars from all of her fans, yet now she has changed her Miley style, all the while still being HM? She of course knows that most, if not all of her fans are going to watch and listen to both. Most of her CDs have a Miley side and an HM side and to me, there is now a big disconnect here...

I don't expect her to be 12 forever...that's silly. I'm sure Disney has more control over the HM persona as they created that character; whereas Miley herself can get away with pushing the envelope a bit as she is not a created character as HM is. As a parent though, I do expect since she is still under contract as HM, and rakes in millions doing so, she has a certain responsibility to the young fans and their parents in what she presents as both Miley and HM. She has grown up very quickly as Miley as her new video shows, and this is where my concerns are since she is still HM. All of the other artists mentioned were just themselves, but Miley is different - she has 2 distinct personas, that up to this point, were very similar. Now that Miley is separating herself from HM, as her latest video clearly shows, there is now a noticeable difference between both personas and this is problematic for many of us as parents. This is a unique situation, as far as I'm concerned, and with her new video, I don't see her people quite understanding the delicate nature of the relationship.

Tiger

 

[Erica09M]

I don't see any issues with the video. I don't see what the fuss is about. Some people are WAAAY too uptight and need to stop thinking that every single little thing has some sort of sexual intention. Some people find feet attractive, does that mean no one should wear flip flops or go barefoot unless they want to be seen as some sexual object?

 

[Caitsmama]

For sure it's knowing about what is show and what is reality - I wasn't disputing that.

I have concerns because Miley is Hannah - she tours as Miley Cyrus AND Hannah Montana, No, i don't believe she does tour as both any longer - her current concert is just Miley.. the HM/MC tour was a couple years ago..so that will make for a very different concert experience for young girls in attendance.Parents need to be aware that it is MILEY touring, and that they may chose not to take their young daughters to the show - i don't believe that all 6 year olds should attend the concert - just b/c she plays HM on TV, this concert out currently is NOT HM You can't expect parents to leave for part of the concert if they find it unacceptable...The video that we are discussing is a Miley Cyrus video, but, Miley also still has her HM persona, and this is where my concern is

I don't expect her to be 12 forever...that's silly. I'm sure Disney has more control over the HM persona as they created that character; whereas Miley herself can get away with pushing the envelope a bit as she is not a created character as HM is. As a parent though, I do expect since she is still under contract as HM, Ok, but just b/c she has a contract for a show, doesn't mean that is her multiple personality that she has to live out 24/7!.

Tiger

I put my statements in pink -- i didn't think that her current show/concert is both HM and Miley.. if i am wrong, and it is, then so be it - just b/c it's a "Disney" themed show, doesn't always mean it's sutiable for young girls. But, again, i thought her current tour concert is just Miley, and is not run by Disney... i will have to look into that..

 

[Tiger926]

I put my statements in pink -- i didn't think that her current show/concert is both HM and Miley.. if i am wrong, and it is, then so be it - just b/c it's a "Disney" themed show, doesn't always mean it's sutiable for young girls. But, again, i thought her current tour concert is just Miley, and is not run by Disney... i will have to look into that..

That's interesting, as I thought she still was under contract with Disney - Hollywood Records? If she isn't, then I would say there shouldn't be any Hannah Montana stuff at a Miley concert, and this would then take care of the concert end. There is also TV appearances, radio, Internet, etc., but it may be easier for parents to monitor that if indeed Miley is no more from Hannah Montana. I wouldn't take my DD6 to a concernt anyway, but I know there are many parents who do take their very young daughters to her concerts. Maybe not so much anymore as she is getting older and has a new look and more mature sound...

I am going to look into this as well, as this is interesting as I had read that she was distancing herself from Disney, but not sure if that meant for her latest CD or not?

Thanks, Tiger